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Heroin why is it hard to pull the plunger back sometimes?!!!!

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why is it that sometimes..more often than not..when i pull back to make sure im in.. its really hard for me to pull the plunger back? when i do finally get it pulled back and see the blood trickle im worried that the needle may have moved and no longer be in..so i push a little bit.. then pull back again.. and so forth. sometimes its hard to push the plunger too. ive been trying to figure out the best way to hold it and position my fingers..and practice with an empty fit.. but i didnt know if there was any advice or if this happens to anyone else and if you've figured any solutions to make it go smoother.


btw ive been iv'ing for a month now. stupid i know. believe me i feel like a piece of shit. im a bottom of the barrel junkie. ive been physically dependent on opiates for going on six years now. started off on OC's opanas and ir's.. and switched to H about six months ago.. snorting became not enuf.. and once i finally used a rig i just cant go back. but im on a waiting list to get in a clinic and will it be a month before i can even get in just for the assessment :X! this will be my fourth attempt to get clean.. once with suboxone..which gave me horrible headaches i mean unbearable..so quit those after not even 2 weeks.. couple months later got on methadone.. the methadone was great didn't make me sick at all.. then started eating benzos on top of it like they was candy. stayed at the dones inpatient clinic and got off the benzos and stayed on the done for about a year.

went to another inpatient rehab to detox off the methadone..which btw made me twitch and stutter for about 2 weeks once i was detoxd.. thats another story in itself tho.. anyways went back to the methadone inpatient facility after i detoxed for the paws until i transferd to their halfway house.. needless to say i relapsed and got kicked out.

i then went back to the original clinic where i first tried suboxone and asked if there was any other options besides the subs since they made me so sick.. was on zubsolv for a few weeks but due to my car being broke down and not having my license i missed 2 of their group meetings and got discharged. so now im back at square one only way worse in my addiction.. there's def truth to the whole progression thing. so im back in this limbo til i figure out what to do and to get myself back to the point where i am truly motivated and ready to get clean.

in the mean time though any advise or suggestions on the whole plunger thing would be appreciated as from what i have been reading its not good to keep pulling back like that.
 
Are you using a new rig every time? If you are the pull and push of the plunger should be extremely smooth. The only time I have had this problem is when using a used rig in an emergency.
 
Yep. Used needles will crap out on you. Use a fresh one every time to, not only avoid this issue, but maintain healthy [and useable] veins.

Also, sometimes you might encounter resistance when pushing the plunger in if you have coagulated blood in the syringe.
 
Before you use it, pull back and forth on it a few times. I've never used a rig over and over only a new one and had this problem. The guy who first shot me told me to practice pulling it back and forth a few times or it could get stuck. Hope this helps a bit. And I know you're focusing on if you can pull it back or not but keep an eye on the needle in your vein to make sure you don't see it move..so you don't freak yourself out and wind up doing it all over again.
 
Before you use it, pull back and forth on it a few times. I've never used a rig over and over only a new one and had this problem. The guy who first shot me told me to practice pulling it back and forth a few times or it could get stuck. Hope this helps a bit. And I know you're focusing on if you can pull it back or not but keep an eye on the needle in your vein to make sure you don't see it move..so you don't freak yourself out and wind up doing it all over again.



agree with all of the above, only wanted to add that sometimes (rarely) with a new rig i get an extremeley "pressured" feel to the plunger that wont pull back and that i've always assumed was from being not in a vein, around a fatty tissue or basically "not in"

you sound like you have some self esteem issues you are referring to yourself as a bottom of the barrell junkie and i can tell you that from my own and many friends experiences kicking 99% of it begins with you no program or rehab is the magic bullet. change your paradigm and get off before you get in too deep. if you've only started with the needles put them down and search for some help go find a local AA group or call the AA/NA hotline
 
I also had this problem when I started, I was using half ml ringes, they were so small and thin so I had a hard time gripping. I switched to 1ml 31 gauge syringes which are longer and thicker, much easier to grip and handle... Needless to say I didn't have a problem pulling back and pushing after that.
 
thank you for the info.

it was the 2nd time i used that same needle. going to get a fresh batch. i def do not want to screw up my veins and def noticed it hurt a lil bit..its crazy how much the needle dulls after one use. im really thankful for all the posts on here that stress a new rig each time..because it finally sunk in and im absolutely going to follow that advice. the max ive used one is three or four times and after using a new one and seeing how much smoother it was i do not want to reuse ever.

blackjesus i defiantly have some self esteem issues. and im currently looking for treatment.. at the least stock up on some subs and try to detox myself. its only been a little over a month with needles and i want to stop before i go on another five or six year run like i did just sniffing the crap. if id even last that long. even if a did physically i would be dead emotionally. as im already pretty numb.

is it absolutely crazy that i used to , in some sick, twisted, mind fuckd way, used to take pride in being a "bottom of the barrel junkie". man i was such an idiot. i thought i was "hard" because i was good at being bad. on a bun a day, not giving a eff about anything. top of the notch badass. if i was going to get high then i was going to be the best at it, get the highest, have the best connects. ha how out of reality was i. im sure we have all been there at one point. im not ashamed of it now, i accept what ive done. but i dont want it to define me, or be me forever.

i appreciate everyone's advice. thank u
 
1 out of 50 bd rigs is just fucked one way or another and thats a decent brand.
 
^
maybe it's related to batches , I get more bum ones when buying the 10 bags for some reason.

I never had a braun omnican insulin rig that was fucked though and must have gone through a 1000 or so ---> german quality
 
It could be scar tissue that has made the vein more narrow and can also clog the tip of the syringe. So you could be in the vein but the tip of the syringe can be up against the scar tissue which can basically create a vacuum as you are pulling back but the tip is in contact with the solid tissue which prevents blood from entering the tip.

It could also be an issue of pulling back at an angle that makes the plunger harder to retract, and harder to push down if you are also doing this at an angle rather than pushing it in straight down.
 
why is it that sometimes..more often than not..when i pull back to make sure im in.. its really hard for me to pull the plunger back? when i do finally get it pulled back and see the blood trickle im worried that the needle may have moved and no longer be in..so i push a little bit.. then pull back again.. and so forth. sometimes its hard to push the plunger too. ive been trying to figure out the best way to hold it and position my fingers..and practice with an empty fit.. but i didnt know if there was any advice or if this happens to anyone else and if you've figured any solutions to make it go smoother.


btw ive been iv'ing for a month now. stupid i know. believe me i feel like a piece of shit. im a bottom of the barrel junkie. ive been physically dependent on opiates for going on six years now. started off on OC's opanas and ir's.. and switched to H about six months ago.. snorting became not enuf.. and once i finally used a rig i just cant go back. but im on a waiting list to get in a clinic and will it be a month before i can even get in just for the assessment :X! this will be my fourth attempt to get clean.. once with suboxone..which gave me horrible headaches i mean unbearable..so quit those after not even 2 weeks.. couple months later got on methadone.. the methadone was great didn't make me sick at all.. then started eating benzos on top of it like they was candy. stayed at the dones inpatient clinic and got off the benzos and stayed on the done for about a year.

went to another inpatient rehab to detox off the methadone..which btw made me twitch and stutter for about 2 weeks once i was detoxd.. thats another story in itself tho.. anyways went back to the methadone inpatient facility after i detoxed for the paws until i transferd to their halfway house.. needless to say i relapsed and got kicked out.

i then went back to the original clinic where i first tried suboxone and asked if there was any other options besides the subs since they made me so sick.. was on zubsolv for a few weeks but due to my car being broke down and not having my license i missed 2 of their group meetings and got discharged. so now im back at square one only way worse in my addiction.. there's def truth to the whole progression thing. so im back in this limbo til i figure out what to do and to get myself back to the point where i am truly motivated and ready to get clean.

in the mean time though any advise or suggestions on the whole plunger thing would be appreciated as from what i have been reading its not good to keep pulling back like that.

Headaches (sometimes severe) are a fairly common side effect of bupe and naloxone...many patients complain of that and many have to stop taking it. But you do realize that suboxone and Zubsolv are the exact same medications, right? The only difference is that the Zubsolv is made so that it is not supposed to taste as bad and it is supposed to absorb more quickly so that you do not have to hold in your mouth for as long as the subs...but drug wise (active ingredients) they are exactly the same thing.
 
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