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Why don't people stay on benzos for life?

Anxious.Individual said:
I find, that in the long run, benzos will make you depressed, to the point of being suicidal. At least in my experience they do. Back when I had a serious alprazolam habit (30mg+ a day), I would frequently end up feeling hopeless, and feeling like my life is pointless. I would need the help of opiates and methamphetamine, to clear my mind and carry on with life. Ever since I tapered down and got rid of the benzo monkey off my back, I never felt depressed, and also I don't feel the horrible fatigue that I felt on benzos. It can easily be explained through the fact that benzos drastically lower your dopamine/serotonin levels.

If you feel like you need some peace in your mind, switch a benz habit for an opi habit, you'll be doing yourself a favour.
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Benzos do not lower dopamine levels; in fact, they do quite the opposite.

they actually caused it to be released with GABA... that is why they are so reinforcing and addicting.

Please do not recommend that people that go get addicted to opioids instead of benzos either. Especially taking them with mehamphetamine - which is extremely dangerous, such as you were doing...
 
benzos are only good acutely. they are great circumstantially and trash when taken chronically. i just got off of benzos taking valium almost daily for 30+ months. its an amazing drug class yet if you think you can treat GAD effectively forever with them you will wind up disappointed.

its like theyre the most useful thing that cant be used (consistently) without failure. my favorite cliche is definitely the "band aid for a bullet wound" one. bennies are great but they arent the greatest, and surely not a long term solution... unless you like being married to a dependency like none other.
 
SirTophamHat said:
benzos are only good acutely. they are great circumstantially and trash when taken chronically. i just got off of benzos taking valium almost daily for 30+ months. its an amazing drug class yet if you think you can treat GAD effectively forever with them you will wind up disappointed.

its like theyre the most useful thing that cant be used (consistently) without failure. my favorite cliche is definitely the "band aid for a bullet wound" one. bennies are great but they arent the greatest, and surely not a long term solution... unless you like being married to a dependency like none other.
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Funny I have the same theory about every drug that patches a problem, BUT I also add something to this, drugs can be challenge for your system to get better and evolve faster, BUT it is hard to control and apply. Also some drugs or doses are TOO MUCH of a challenge that your system loses the fight, that is; addiction, or brain damage, or confusion, or death. or all of those added one at a time in the exact order I mentionned.(best example for TOO MUCH of a challenge to win : alcoholics.)

To resume, I think benzo are a help when needed and a challenge when used correctly to do things. Altho I completely agree with acute use. In fact I think the best for every drug is acute use, sober is life, drugs are patches or challenges.
 
iv been taking .5-1.5 mgs a day for almost 7 years now but they cut me off 6.5 years ago they help me work harder longer idk what id do with out em honestly flip out at work and get fired or locked up for kicking someones ass
 
iv'e been on klonopin for over 5 years now because before i was i would have shitty physical symptoms from anxiety such as 24/7 clamy palms , nasty habit of nibbling the skin around my nails to the point of bleeding and the fear to raise my hands only to expose my persistent pit stains

also since being RXd benzos my alcohol consumption went down a good 75%, i can be the only square not drinking at a party and feel good about my self plus i like being able to look people in the eye, at least when they're speaking to me

not suggesting staying on them forever is the solution but anxiety disorders are real and doesn't ever just go away, in my case it requires medication, negative long term side effects are a bridge i'll cross when the time comes
 
BigDiggerNick said:
They are very addictive drugs. It also effects your memory negatively.
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And it really isn't safe to drive a car while under the the influence of any benzo medication. Benzo's are whack for your sense of balance and hand eye coordination.

I'd say if a doctor was to prescribe them long term driving a motor vehicle would be a no no.

As others have said i am a bit a skeptic of the attitude a person can safely take a daily dose of benzo's over an extended period of time and have no problems.

Just read some of the benzo abuse stories on bluelight, most of those people would have started out thinking they function better long term on valium xaxnax etc.
 
i think i read a study somewhere that there's an increased risk to develop Alzheimer disease if you take benzos habitually/daily.
funny coincidence as they make you into a bit brain-dead anyway
 
I wouldn't be surprised, my memory of most of my 20s are a blur due to benzos :(

Having suffered from crippling anxiety I think being on benzos daily just made it worse. I never learned how to cope with things sans pills. Tapering off took a long time but was so worth it.

Now I'll only take them for comedowns and such and haven't had a panic attack since I got off them 3 years ago!
 
They're incredibly effective in the short term but I think they kind of retard the changes in the brain and lifestyle necessary to make genuine progress at overcoming anxiety disorders.
 
They have been linked to Dementia and Alzheimers if I'm correct. Benzos also build tolerance rather quickly in my humble experience, so they lose efficacy and are hard to come off of. They may train some people's brains to not be able to calm themselves down naturally. If for some reason you get separated from your medicine and you are on a high enough dose, seizures are likely. The DEA has cracked down on Benzo prescriptions so doctors don't want to write as many scripts for them. Benzos interact with a lot of drugs and medications so that complicates matters for people that aren't solely taking one chemical. They impair memory. So many reasons why despite being effective, they just aren't a great long term option if there are other things that have not yet been tried.
 
My experience has been that doctors will still write pretty large prescriptions for benzodiazepines. At least that's been the case with me, anyway.

Long-term habitual use makes you boring and dumb /thread
 
I think what is the most important with benzo is to stick with the lowest effective dose and not go up unless needed, and when it is needed the source of the need to increase is not generally physical adaptation but another source unrelated to GABA amounts. I've read about this DR Rosenbaum who studied long term benzo use related to tolerance and his conclusion is that when the body can't provide enough GABA at specific places, we get a tolerance to wherever our body do not consider it useful and do not get tolerance where it is helpful. So tolerance to benzo might be a sign that it is either not the good medicine for you or that you are looking for something else than physiological relief of symptoms.
 
I think eventually you will build a tolerance and will just take the pill to feel normal (like how they felt pre medicated). People often report that stage to be worse off than before meds...
 
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