Why does 2c-d have a d and not an m.

[Nexus298]

All the other 2c-x correspond with their chemical names, 2C-E,Ethyl ;2C-P,Propyl ; 2C-Tx, Thio(for the Sulfur and then num of additional Carbons; All the Halogen correspond C,B,and I. Even the rarer ones correspond. I know 2C-D was synthesized and study before Sasha is this why it is a D and not M, for Methyl.

 

[pharmakos]

maybe because M could stand for Methyl or Methoxy? maybe even more groups start with M, i'm no organic chemist so i really don't know.

DOM works because the DO stands for Desoxy and the M for Methyl. Hard to confuse it for Desoxymethoxy since that doesn't make any sense.

 

[Bomboclat]

^ That makes no sense really...as 2C-D is the methyl substituted 2C PEA....

OP Ive often wondered this myself, maybe one of the ADD regulars can enlighten us both!

 

[phase_dancer]

As mentioned above, the "D" in "OD" follows from its ring orientation pattern being the same as that of 2C-D (and this, originally from the mimicking of the pattern of DOM). All of these D- compounds have the 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl ring-substitution pattern.

PiHKAL # 14 BOD

 

[dread]

D is the letter before E. E is for Ethyl. M is the codename for Mescaline, 3C-M is alphamethylmescaline or TMA or 3-carbon version of mescaline, thus 2C-M would also be mescaline, Shulgin probably wanted to avoid this possible confusion and thus named the 4-methyl compound 2C-D.

 

[Nexus298]

but the methoxylated 2C-B analogue would have come out as BOMB, so the idea was dropped.

The next paragraph in Pihkal addresses the issue.

After reading that my understanding is he used D because it was describing the methylation of the 4 position. Because D is the fourth letter of the alphabet. Thanks phase!

 

[kakti]

As mentioned above, the "D" in "OD" follows from its ring orientation pattern being the same as that of 2C-D (and this, originally from the mimicking of the pattern of DOM). All of these D- compounds have the 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl ring-substitution pattern. PiHKAL # 14 BOD

Still never made any sense to me. DOM has the 2,5 dimethoxy 4-methyl substitution, but the "D" in the name as posted above is for desoxy, and the "M" is for the Methyl group, to separate it from DOI, DOC, DOB, etc.

I don't understand why he chose 2C-D and not follow the the naming scheme and use 2C-M? A methoxy on the 4 position would make 2,4,5 tri-methoxy phenethylamine, and wouldn't fall under the "2C" naming scheme, and in fact is named TMPEA in Pihkal. Instead we have tons of non-"D" with a 2,4,5 substitution pattern, such as Ariadne, 2C-D, BOD, BOHD, etc etc in the book. If you discount the 2,4,5 but keep the methyl in the 4 position there's a ton more as well.

Maybe it was just too damned hard to make up a fully logical naming pattern so he just said fuck it, chemicals with a methyl group in the 4 position will be named whatever the hell I want them to be named