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Why Do People Struggle to Lose Weight?

Every person is different, and many people have different reasons for struggling to lose weight.

People have bad habits about food, its like an addiction. You eat ice cream because it makes you happy, your sad because you just spent 3 hours sweating your ass off at the gym, and there is no progress, so you eat some ice cream to feel better.

You don't have time, to make a healthy home cooked meal, or to exercise for hours a day.

Basically, it takes time, hard work, and dedication. Which means its hard. Fuck hard stuff.

Last time I _tried_ to lose weight, I ate even healthier (I usually eat quite healthy food), and exercised for hours every day (riding bikes, and lifting weights).

I did that for two weeks, and I gained 5 pounds. Which was good because it was muscle mass, but psychologically my goal became even further away. So I said fuck it and did what I wanted when I wanted.
 
^ That could be an example of not knowing how to lose weight, but it is my understanding that cardio has to aid in losing weight unless you're a mutant.

The addiction thing is relevant, but what does it mean? We need food to survive, but does that make it an addiction comparable to drugs? I'd be more inclined to state that people who eat bad food for them and can't stop have a problem with their cognition in which favors short-term immediate gratification over long-term stable gratification.
 
Edvard Munch said:
^ That could be an example of not knowing how to lose weight, but it is my understanding that cardio has to aid in losing weight unless you're a mutant.

The addiction thing is relevant, but what does it mean? We need food to survive, but does that make it an addiction comparable to drugs? I'd be more inclined to state that people who eat bad food for them and can't stop have a problem with their cognition in which favors short-term immediate gratification over long-term stable gratification.
Maybe I am a mutant.

What does being addicted to food mean? It means that when you go to the grocery store for some carrots and lettuce, you see the cookies that you love on sale. It's just one box of cookies, hit of crack, shot of dope... you want it, its there, you get it. Will power can only go so far.

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I'd be more inclined to state that people who eat bad food for them and can't stop have a problem with their cognition in which favors short-term immediate gratification over long-term stable gratification.

vs.

I'd be more inclined to state that people who abuse drugs and can't stop have a problem with their cognition in which favors short-term immediate gratification over long-term stable gratification.
 
Edvard Munch said:
^ That could be an example of not knowing how to lose weight, but it is my understanding that cardio has to aid in losing weight unless you're a mutant.

The addiction thing is relevant, but what does it mean? We need food to survive, but does that make it an addiction comparable to drugs? I'd be more inclined to state that people who eat bad food for them and can't stop have a problem with their cognition in which favors short-term immediate gratification over long-term stable gratification.

It absolutely makes it comparable to drugs. Food becomes a "drug" for some people, it's a way of "escaping" stress or depression, food makes them feel good, if only for a few minutes. I think food addictions definitely exist and that it's not always a question of being lazy (that I am saying that you think that :))

I have struggled with my weight for years. I get into a routine where I feel like I am basically starving myself and having to spend hours and hours working out and basically I just fall out of the routine. I fall away from it because I'm not happy with the lifestyle that would be required to get myself down to an "ideal" weight. It's not that I am lazy by any standard at all, but I would rather enjoy my life than spend all of my time trying to lose weight to live up to someone else's standards. Do I want to lose weight, absolutely, but when I do it's going to be on my terms and not what other people think.

Lastly, the problem with a food addiction though is unlike someone being addicted to a drug you can eventually just stop taking that drug, but with food you have to eat to live. It's a vicious cycle that some people get into and it's not that they are just lazy slobs, there are a lot of other psychological and possibly even physical issues that are going on. No one should ever be deemed an "unworthy" person because of what they look like alone. You won't ever understand what that person has gone through until you walk a mile in their shoes.
 
9mmCensor said:
People have bad habits about food, its like an addiction. You eat ice cream because it makes you happy, your sad because you just spent 3 hours sweating your ass off at the gym, and there is no progress, so you eat some ice cream to feel better.

^^^ THAT is not a problem for me, at least. I've discovered the wonder that is runner's high (In my case though, it's actually elliptical trainer's high, I guess.) As long as I have the right music, I think I could do cardio all day. And, regardless of the fact that the damn scale has been refusing to move, I come out of the gym feeling GOOOOOD!

I also come out craving protein, and wanting nothing to do with sweets for a good four hours or so.


cya,
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Edvard Munch said:
The addiction thing is relevant, but what does it mean? We need food to survive, but does that make it an addiction comparable to drugs?

I'm a big believer in the low-carb lifestyle. I lost 50 pounds in about 4 months back in 2005. Went off it and I gain half of it back over the course a year and a half. I just got back on it a couple weeks ago.
Anyway, the low carb philosophy goes something like this. When you eat carbs (breads, sugar, grains), you get a boost in your blood sugar which in turn gives you a boost of energy.
But it doesn't last long, you get sluggish again and you start craving that blood sugar boost. Eventually your body gets addicted to these cycles.
So food addiction can actually be exactly like a drug addiction. Don't believe me, try cutting out all carbs for three days. By the second day, you will be wanting to put your fist through a window and every cell of you body will be screaming out for a bagel or a baked potato or anything high carb.
Carbohydrate withdrawl feels very similar to withdrawling from nicotine or alcohol. It takes about a week for the cravings to stop.

BTW, I think it's much easier to lose weight from diet than excerise.
 
That's because carbohydrates are neccessary for life. The brain can only run on glucose. Take away the source and you'll have a hard time functioning.
 
Carbs are my downfall and that is an understatement. I limit my carbohydrates to the vegetables I eat eveyday and a little fruit (when I'm good.) Everything else....white stuff, bread, rice, pasta, sugar, etc. I do not touch (when I am in serious weight loss mode). It really works for me.

Of course I fall off the wagon from time to time and believe me, I pay for it dearly.
 
Here's a reason I"d never heard of until now:
Obesity spreads to friends, study concludes
By Gina Kolata
Published: July 25, 2007

Obesity can spread from person to person, much like a virus, according to researchers. When one person gains weight, close friends tend to gain weight too.

Their study, published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine, involved a detailed analysis of a large social network of 12,067 people who had been closely followed for 32 years, from 1971 until 2003. The investigators knew who was friends with whom, as well as who was a spouse or sibling or neighbor, and they knew how much each person weighed at various times over three decades.

That let them watch what happened over the years as people became obese. Did their friends also become obese? Did family members? Or neighbors?

The answer, the researchers report, was that people were most likely to become obese when a friend became obese. That increased one's chances of becoming obese by 57 percent.

There was no effect when a neighbor gained or lost weight, however, and family members had less of an influence than friends. It did not even matter if the friend was hundreds of miles away - the influence remained. And the greatest influence of all was between mutual close friends. There, if one became obese, the other had a 171 percent increased chance of becoming obese too.
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The same effect seemed to occur for weight loss, the investigators say, but since most people were gaining, not losing, over the 32 years, the result was an obesity epidemic.

Dr. Nicholas Christakis, a physician and professor of medical sociology at Harvard Medical School and a principal investigator in the new study, says one explanation is that friends affect each others' perception of fatness. When a close friend becomes obese, obesity may not look so bad.

"You change your idea of what is an acceptable body type by looking at the people around you," Christakis said.

The investigators say their findings can help explain why Americans became fatter in recent years: Persons who became obese were likely to drag some friends with them.

Their analysis was unique, Christakis said, because it moved beyond a simple analysis of one person and his or her social contacts, and instead examined an entire social network at once, looking at how a friend's friends' friends, or a spouse's siblings' friends, could have an influence on a person's weight. The effects, Christakis said, "highlight the importance of a spreading process, a kind of social contagion, that spreads through the network."

Of course, the investigators say, social networks are not the only factors that affect body weight. There is a strong genetic component at work too.

Science has shown that individuals have genetically determined ranges of weights, spanning perhaps 30 or so pounds, or 13.5 kilograms, for each person. But that leaves a large role for the environment in determining whether a person's weight is near the top of his or her range or near the bottom. As people have gotten fatter, it appears that many are edging toward the top of their ranges. The question has been why.

If the new research is correct, it might mean that something in the environment seeded what many call an obesity epidemic, making a few people gain weight. Then social networks let the obesity spread rapidly.

It also might mean that the way to avoid becoming fat is to avoid having fat friends.

That is not the message they meant to convey, say the study investigators, Christakis and his colleague James Fowler, an associate professor of political science at the University of California in San Diego. You don't want to lose a friend who becomes obese, Christakis said. Friends are good for your overall health, he explains.

So why not make friends with a thin person, he suggests, and let the thin person's behavior influence you and your obese friend?

That answer does not satisfy obesity researchers like Kelly Brownell, director of the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale University.

"I think there's a great risk here in blaming obese people even more for things that are caused by a terrible environment," Brownell said.

On average, the investigators said, their rough calculations show that a person who became obese gained 17 pounds, and the newly obese person's friend gained 5 pounds. But some gained less or did not gain at all, while others gained much more.

Those extra pounds were added onto the natural increases in weight that occur when people get older. What usually happened was that peoples' weights got high enough to push them over the boundary, a body mass index of 30, that divides overweight and obese. (For example, a man 6 feet, or 1.8 meters, tall who went from 220 pounds to 225 would go from being overweight to........
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/25/healthscience/fat.php
If this story is right (i haven't had time to read the original paper), there could be some kind of sociopsychological things happening here.
 
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About 50% of everything I eat is carbs, 25% fat, and I still can never go over 120lbs. I'm not bragging (I'm icky skinny after all), but simply saying that carbs never helped me gain weight.
 
Refined sugar, which is added to just about everything these days, is highly addictive and it can enhance weight gain.

When you consume fat your brain releases endogenous opioid peptides(it makes you feel good!).

These two seem to be major components of alot of processed foods.

So when you do try to eat healthy, something like carrots, it just sucks because it doesn't have that addictive pull.


I wonder if television has a large role in this. It certainly seems to numb the mind and help promote a sedentary lifestyle.
 
Jamshyd said:
About 50% of everything I eat is carbs, 25% fat, and I still can never go over 120lbs. I'm not bragging (I'm icky skinny after all), but simply saying that carbs never helped me gain weight.


Oh how I envy you ;)
I dream of the day when I can go wild in a bakery and not gain weight lol.
 
since i stopped drinking every day i've lost like ten pounds without a major change in diet or behavior. i have a very physically intense job, and don't eat horrible, but not great either.

with that said, i don't have much respect for people who want to talk shit/look down on fat people. everybody has something fucked up about them, its just that fat people's problems are out there for all to see. are they worse people because of that? i seriously doubt it.
 
Diet is inextricably related to one's behaviors and attitudes and those attributes of your personality stem from such things as your culture, socioeconomic status, and whether or not your parents/close family members are fat; which is tied to culture and family values. We all have different metabolisms, however this is trivial across the population and does not explain huge differences between very skinny people and obese people.

We largely assign value to foods and typically ignore nutritional content in place of food face values. To site a cultural example, I come from an Italian family and traditionally we value foods high on the glycemic index and high in fat such as sausage, cheese, and pastas. Another part of Italian culture is that we encourage eating and eating until we are satisfied. We also use food as a comfort tool. To site a socioeconomic example, the only close store in your neighborhood is a corner store that sells mostly chips, soda, snack cakes, and deli lunch meats if you're lucky. Also, these snack foods are typically cheap and money is the limiting factor to healthy choices, even if one is self-aware of more healthy choices that what is available to them. Now couple this with the fact that most of the food we are exposed to is fast-food and loaded with fats, sugars, and sodium with little regard for nutrition. Of course there is a myriad of other little reasons that play a small role in our inability to maintain a healthy weight such as public/community policy, environment, social networks such as friends and coworkers, education systems, our lack of physical activity, and so on.

So to answer your question, behavior is 95 pecent of the reason behind why people cannot stop eating bad foods. Do a google search for the Health Belief Model and it better explains the "why" and "how" behind our behaviors.
 
^^great post.

for people with money and a real grocery store close by, I'd say that education about how to loose weight, and motivation to do so are the most important factors. Understanding why one's body needs certain nutrients will certainly help that person make the "correct" choices next time they go shoping.

The other factor is exercise and calorie intake. If you burn more calories than you eat, you WILL lose weight. This is a law of thermodynamics and simply can not be argued with. Sure you will feel hungry a lot, but that's not the point. If you have excess fat and your body needs energy to function, that fat will be utilized.

I on the other hand have to eat and exercise so that I don't get to skinny, so yeah...I feel bad for people who want to loose weight but have dificulty doing so.
 
So far, for every pound of fat I lost; all I did is put a pound of muscle right back on!
um, isn't that a good thing? if your goal is to be and look healthier, how is converting fat mass to muscle mass a bad thing?
 
personally i struggle to gain weight :p

i just don't have that much of an appetite, plus fast metabolism
 
Perpetual Indulgence said:
I wasn't exercising. I ate way too much. It takes constant dedication to a lifestyle change. I knew the solution. I was too lazy to do it. It was a struggle. I wanted health and wellness to come in an easy to swallow and no work form. I am at the point now that it isn't hard at all to eat well and exercise. It is now a way of life.
yeah, i want to keep myself alive as long as possible, to increase the chance that i'm around when anti-aging or reverse-aging technology comes around. then, my lifespan will be indefinite :)

uh sry for triple post. opiates make me post alot
 
For those interested in weight loss:
Please turn your google research buttons towards taurine and the non hydrogenated coconut oil.

Two essential ingredients (medium chain triglycerides from coconut oil) and an essential amino acid that are absolutely VITAL for weight loss.

For taurine, it is almost impossible for researchers to make obese mice lose weight without it. With abundant taurine the fat mice shed weight. Go buy some if you are overweight.

For MCT coconut oil also signals for weight loss. Truly beautiful substance, great for the rest of your brain and body.

Go research these two things if you are SERIOUS about losing that fat ass of yours...
 
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