RCs Why do people ingest these 'bath salts'?

[velocity92c]

I don't even know what RC's stands for but I see it as the label to many of these posts about 'bath salts' so I'll go with that. My question is, why on earth do people ingest these products? I don't think I've ever read anything good about any of them. Almost every single trip report describes someone having a multiple day hangover that is among the worst experiences of their entire lives. Do people really think a product sold OTC is going to give you any kind of high that's worth a shit? I just read a thread where a person was asking how to prepare this product for IV - WHY would you want to inject a random substance? I just don't get it. Maybe someone who enjoys RC's can enlighten me.

 

[amapola]

RC stands for research chemical. Basically drugs which have not been medically tested, researched and vetted, and are not considered safe for human consumption.

The reason people use them is to achieve an alternated state of consciousness.

I enjoy the use of 2c-c which is considered a research chemical. I test my product with reagents to better ensure I have what I ordered and always start off a new batch with a low dosage to ensure there are no negative side effects. I find it a very enjoyable and beautiful chemical.

Do people really think a product sold OTC is going to give you any kind of high that's worth a shit?

Kratom and codeine are both OTC in Canada and both give a very nice high and are well worth it.

I understand that your post is basically a rhetorical question stating your opinion that bath salts are dangerous and there are very few benefits to justify consuming them. Other Drugs isn't here to facilitate discussion on the sociological and psychological conditions that cause people to want to get high on whatever they can get though, and looking at the amount of people who use bath salts, huff gas, eat large amounts of antihistamines, and shove banana peels up their rectum, it's quite a common issue.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

RC = "Research Chemical". It's a term used to describe various designer drugs that have been popping up on the scene over the years. Bath Salts are usually MDPV or mephedrone or a combination of those and a cut, but could be anything.

RC doesn't only mean Bath Salts and similar designer stimulants (MDPV, mephedrone, etc), but it also refers to designer depressants (such as methylmethaqualone), designer psychedelics such as the 2C's and the designer tryptamines (5-Meo-DIPT being one of many examples).

There are even "RC" variants of opioids and erectile dysfunction drugs.

The term "designer drug", "RC" and "research chemical" are used interchangeably.

 

[muvolution]

This will probably get moved, but I can't really answer your question. Why do people IV street H or Coke? It's the same... You don't know what's in any of this shit. The only people here that you'll find that understand the risks in the same terms you do are either people who aren't into hard drugs yet, or people who are recovering. Some people just don't give a fuck, I didn't for a long time.

When someone has their mind set on doing something, especially drugs, there isn't much you can say to dissuade them.

I've personally never liked stimulants, but figure I should try these before they are gone.

 

[hydrochron]

^Let me guess your applying next time to be a mod? It's a pretty good question actually. Sense this bath salt shit has been posted about so much. I think it's pretty simple people want to get high, however I think the people taking these bath salts are expecting a little to much.

So my answer is that there taking bath salts because they think that it's going to make them feel good like other stimulants such as, cocaine, and mdma. Then they realize it makes them feel shitty, then ingest more to kill the pain. Thus causing more pain.

Thus making them dumb asses.

 

[velocity92c]

Ahh, I didn't realize RC stood for research chem, my question should be completely rephrased from 'why do people take RC's' to 'why do people take "bath salt" RC's'?

As an avid fan of 2c-i and 2c-e I can definitely see the allure of some RC's. It just seems like every single post I've ever read about 'bath salts' is people begging others not to try them or to be ready for the worst experience of their entire lives. More than anything I was hoping someone who actually enjoys these compounds to tell me what positives are associated with it. I'm as curious as any other drug user, and I love trying many different drugs - but this has to be one of the only drugs I've ever seen that is widely used that I have only ever seen negative affects associated with.

 

[muvolution]

Yeah, I don't know, usually a gram of coke last me like 3 months, so these might be interesting. Aren't they going to be illegal soon?

 

[hydrochron]

Well that's the thing, I dont think there's people that actually enjoy these compounds. Infact it seems to be that the people that use these compounds are into self destructive behavior and like suffering. That's my guess.

 

[DrugstoreCowboy83]

Ahh, I didn't realize RC stood for research chem, my question should be completely rephrased from 'why do people take RC's' to 'why do people take "bath salt" RC's'?

I don't know for sure but simple logic would suggest that it's because if it said "drugs" on the label it would be illegal. If someone manufactured and sold heroin in containers saying "bath salt" I would fuckin buy it.

I also understand this is a rhetorical question. I think wading through a sea of bath salt posts can be a little odd and maybe even annoying from time to time, but the real question is- why are you adding to them? It seems you've already made up your mind about them anyhow.

 

[joe blow]

I use them because they work for me. I tried meph but was costly. Ivory Wave Ultra was half the price of local meph I did my research and all small dose (25-50mg) reviews were good. Bad reviews were all ppl doing 150+ doses. Turns out IWU is about 1/4 price since I have to use about 1/2 the meph dose. Yes, I IV them because snorting sucked, took more, tasted horrible, murder on my nose and not smokable. If I can find a legit site that's actually working for meph will probably go back to that since I'd at least know what chemical I'm putting in my body. Meth is my DOC but due to legalities trying RC stims.

 

[amapola]

Thank you for posting your views on the issue joe blow and if anybody makes personal attacks on you for it they will suffer my wrath

So prices, legality, availability, and enjoying the effects are all reasons for taking bath salts. Of course you need to weigh this against the tremendous incalculable risks to your health but so long as you are aware of them and make an informed decision it is still your decision to make.

 

[fiarworks]

i am very new here and don't really know any people so last thing i want is to start anything, its just not worth it much less online. but you give a text aura of wisdom that speaks to me. so much so i was compelled to reply lol

 

[Charleston_Car]

Probably because they're curious, or desperate, or some people might even really like the high.
Legal Piperazine based pills sell like hotcakes where I live, even though the high is shit (in my opinion).
I'm guessing part of this is because these drugs are legal, so people feel safer and maybe less guilty about doing it if it comes in a nice little package that they can't get arrested for.

 

[Lady Codone]

Most people take them because they're cheap, "legal" and widely available unlike coke/MDMA/etc. That combined with the false belief that legal = safe is enough reason for a lot of people.

As cliche as it sounds, it all goes back to the drug war. Would the RC market even exist if not for drug prohibition? Maybe, but there's no way it'd be as prevalent as it is now. Who here would honestly spend money on Spice and other JWHs if you had legal access to all the marijuana strains you could smoke?

 

[Crankinit]

Do these 'bath salt' products list their ingredients? Pretty shady if they don't, and personally I'd never touch them if that was the case. Even worse than street drugs in a lot of ways, at least with a street drug you can generally expect to have an idea of what you're ingesting, and they've been studied extensively over the last few decades so we know what they do.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Do these 'bath salt' products list their ingredients? Pretty shady if they don't, and personally I'd never touch them if that was the case. Even worse than street drugs in a lot of ways, at least with a street drug you can generally expect to have an idea of what you're ingesting, and they've been studied extensively over the last few decades so we know what they do.

Usually the ingredients are not listed. In my experience, the "Spice Blend" and its 100s of knockoffs didn't mention their actual ingredients either.

This is most likely part of an attempt to skirt the law (just like labelling them as "Bath Salts" or "Plant Food" is part of an attempt to skirt the law). U.S. Analogue laws are much broader-reaching if something is sold "for human consumption".

Also, because many of the chemicals in these bath salts are analogs (analogues) of controlled substances, they're skirting that as well by not listing the actual ingredients. It's a very thinly veiled attempt, but it still works (at least for now).

 

[caseface99]

I wonder how many stupid people saw "bath salts" at a gas station and took that litterally. I wonder if mdpv and shit could be absorbed through the skin especially if hot water was opening pores

 

[BrokedownPalace]

I've used Tranquility Bath Salts twice.. Definitely MDPV that is cut with god knows what. Both times I had 500mg, and constant re-dosing despite no positive effects was basically the extent of it. Raised my BP and Heart Rate real high, though could sleep within 2 hours of last dose.

Never buying bath salts again, although my experience(s) with pure MDPV and Methylone powder have been far more enjoyable and safer (in my opinion). Since the purity was known and there were no cuts involved.

The gov't is having a field day with these bath salts, as they are sharks, swimming around, and can smell the blood of any bad stimulant experience from thousands of miles away. You aren't safe, the bath salts aren't safe. In my opinion I hope they get banned. Not because I dislike the compounds, just the "allure" of the brand name and the un-known potency/quality/even wtf is in them causes massive problems and people get hurt/die.

Luckily I had read up on this shit before trying Tranquility, because if someone were to rack up coke sized lines of that shit their heart would explode.

Dangerous. But I guess that's half the fun. I guess arguably driving to Newark daily to grab some Heroin/coke/crack that has an unknown purity as well, is just as dangerous. Taking into account the police/robberies/murders/the drugs..

If the gov't would just let us do what the hell we want with our bodies, as long as it isn't hurting others, and allowed the PROPER education of drugs/how to use them/dosages/etc, we wouldn't be in this mess. The government is so fuckign stupid they can't understand that half the drug related deaths are THEIR fault, for not properly educating people on the substance they are using. Even when i was going to the methadone clinic, the counselors/doctors knew basically nothing, and would be learning stuff from ME about methadone and heroin.. Like.. really? It must not take much education to get a job at a fucking methadone clinic. Damn.

Thank god I am 8 days off of methadone, sorry for rambling.

 

[indicameds]

They are drawn to them because they are usually young under 18 and can get em at the local head shop or gas station using cash and most of all, they cant source the actual R/C they are trying to find.
In my opinion there more dangerous then R/Cs in general because you dont kow what there cut with or if there is even a single mcg. of any wanted chem in it.
I am a avid user of R/Cs but I dont advise it. But I atleast seek out a pure product of the chem Im wanting to explore use simple solubility test on em first to make sure the product I got is what I wanted. And then I start small and work my way up until in comfortable with the chem I got and the supplier I got it from.

And yes some of these chems weather we know what they do in the long run yet or not. Are enjoyable and some in my eyes are better than the traditional drugs were used to.
But bath salts in my eyes are just people taking advantage of peoples addictive nature for profit. Either way though it is the buyers choice to use them. Just be safe as with any and all things.

 

[more]

Almost every single trip report describes someone having a multiple day hangover that is among the worst experiences of their entire lives.

Were you referring to me? lawlz.

I do have to admit I had some of the greatest highs of my life on that shit. Everything in my life suddenly became so clear--my thoughts, what I was going, what I should do with this and that situation. Best of all, I had such beautiful CONFIDENCE in my actions. I don't know how else to put it, but I remember saying to myself in the middle of highs, "God, how sad so many people will never experience this!" because yeah, it was just that good.

Now however I'm being partially hospitalized.

so please, just don't go there.