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Why do druggies delude themselves into thinking no one realizes they are on drugs?

regfairfield said:
its like someone thinking they are cool to drive when they are too shitfaced

no one will ever admit to being high unless they are around other high people
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wtf, the ramifications are totally different for someone thinking they can drive when shitfaced.

Lying about being high, or being "deluded" about the idea that no one thinks you are high, doesn't have the harm factor involve. Driving while intoxicated puts yours and other peoples lives at risk. Lying about being high may just make you look like a dick if someone was genuinely curious with out any negative intentions.

Also what is wrong with the fact that people want to lie about being high? Majority of people look down upon drug users, and I for one don't want to deal with the shit storm of certain people knowing I'm on drugs.
 
Erm, we "delude" ourselves into think that nobody knows because if you're a little drunk, or just a little stoned, or a little high on opiates, etc. then nobody does know, especially if you're a person that's good at/used to handling themselves in that situation, and honestly I'm not sure what the response is supposed to be if you are really mangled and you're around other people. Even if they do realize how screwed up you are, nobody appreciates someone under the influence acting stupid, so you may as well act like you're not high and pretend like nobody notices cause you can't do shit even if they do notice.

But I'm wondering where the hostile tone of this question comes from, considering how necessary it is sometimes to conceal being fucked up. In situations like when I'm high as a kite on Christmas and all of a sudden my uncle who I work for shows up, you bet your sweet life I'm going to pretend I'm not messed up, and will probably think that nobody notices since shit would probably go down if they did. It sounds like you're suggesting that people are doing something wrong by pretending that they aren't under the influence of anything, which any drug user has to do sometimes.

Sorry that you don't approve of drug use or whatever your issue is, but taking one instance where you got your feathers all ruffled cause you don't approve of the decision this girl made for herself and then extrapolating it out to all "druggies" (what a stupid condescending term) doesn't really make sense. Plus how do you know she was deluding herself? Maybe she was fully aware of how fucked up she looked and just didn't care if anyone knew. Not to mention that I'm still puzzled as to how exactly this hurt you in any fashion other than perhaps if you have some control issues and are angry because she was doing drugs when you decreed that it was inappropriate.
 
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It's funny how so many of us get accused of being fucked up when sober...I wonder if it's that when your around someone a lot while your high...that they think were not being our normal self when sober?
 
From personal experience, most people who can notice something different about you is because they have experience with the narcotic in accusation. Those who see you often, family, wife/husband, bf/gf, close friends might not see the difference because they are exposed to you so often. But if they can tell a positive or negative change in you its usually a good gauge to use to determine what direction you want to pursue in life. I have a close friend who is dosing off klonopin and his close friends can notice the positive change and are happy with it. They say he looks more alert and less zombitized. He cant tell the difference and still feels paranoid with the excessive sweating and pale complexion but it reassured by the fact that he is beginning to recover. Benzo dependancy and withdrawal is a serious issue and even I underestimated it. But it is funny when someone tells you, "You look high." and you respond, "I wish but no." lol
 
Most wont know for opiates i mean who knows to look for pin pointed pupils the only way you could tell is if your alot nicer than usual haha thats how i get called out.
 
I'm the same way around people that know what I'm into...generally if I initiate a conversation and can't be quiet for more than five minutes...it's sure to get me outted...haha...
 
some people notice, some dont, but when youre sweating in a 65deg. room looking all shiny, going back in fourth to the bathroom every god damn 5 min. youre totally drawing heat making yourself look like a fucking idiot, in the back of your mind you really are convinced nobody has a clue. those particular types of druggies are called transformers.
 
drmindbender said:
From personal experience, most people who can notice something different about you is because they have experience with the narcotic in accusation.
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This. Everyone who has ever figured out I'm a pothead when I've been trying not to let it show, has been someone who either is or used to be a toker themselves.

Don't underestimate how easy alcohol is to smell. Someone who's had only one drink will give off subtle whiffs of alcohol for 90min or so, at least to anyone who gets physically close to them, hugs them, or is in an enclosed space with them.

Those who see you often, family, wife/husband, bf/gf, close friends might not see the difference because they are exposed to you so often. But if they can tell a positive or negative change in you its usually a good gauge to use to determine what direction you want to pursue in life.
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On the contrary, I think that people close to you, who've spend a lot of time around your sober self and know your little quirks and general demeanor pretty well, are more, not less, likely to notice the subtle changes in your affect that a drug will produce.

People who don't know you very well, and have no familiarity with the drug you're on, are likely to just write you and your drug-influenced behavior off as 'weird', unless your behavior is grossly erratic and stereotypical for users of that drug.

Also, keep in mind that people who act different because they're tired, sick, upset, jetlagged, stressed, on a new medication, etc., don't tend to like the fact that they're not looking, acting, and feeling themselves. Some people get loopy and goofy when they're frazzled, true. But no one gets nonchalantly euphoric! If something about you is "off", and you seem entirely OK with it, that's a big red flag.
 
Some drugs don't show on people as much as others in my opinion. Alcohol intoxication isn't hard to spot. Opiates show to an extent in my opinion, especially at higher doses. I couldn't tell if someone was using benzos, though for instance. Speed freaks aren't hard to spot, but mania exsists, so you never know.

I don't bother to cover up how the effects drugs have on me. If people see me, and get suspicious I don't really care, because they never know for sure. I am sure people have seen me at times, and suspected but oh well. I don't think a lot of people are keen to spot the effects of different drugs though, so only some know what to look for. "It takes one to know one" is very true when it comes to different drugs.
 
I don't know whether this holds true for other drugs besides opiates, or even if it was just *me*, but, back in my heavy using days, it was when I was without my DOC, i.e, dopesick & in withdrawal, that the people around me would ask if I were "on" anything. I would do this sort of a "wind down", lose all my energy, & become very quiet & withdrawn when I was dopesick, plus, I would get all kinds of clumsy, emotional, easily angered, etc. When I had my opis, I was a fully functional person. Oh, the irony.

Even now, when I get myself a little sumpin' sumpin' as a treat, the only change in me is that I tend to be in a fantastic mood, highly energetic, & a lot more talkative. Not enough difference from my "normal" personality that anyone has ever remarked on it. And no, I don't get any sick thrills from "fooling" anyone about it--I would just be mortified if anyone were to know, because I work a responsible job & a lot of people look up to me. I just don't happen to think it's anyone's business.
 
MPerfectDrugJ said:
I've been sucessfully hiding daily pot use, and semi-frequent adderall use, from my wife for almost four years now. When we first got together we were selling meth, and making some serious money. But we got ripped off hardcore, and so we quit and got clean. Shortly thereafter she was pregnant, and she changed. If she ever got wind of what I am doing behind her back, she'd leave me so fast, she'd make the Flash look slow. I've lain in bed, counting my pulse up to 10,000 because I was too spun to sleep. She's totally ignorant. =D
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Grow up and stop lying to your life. That is not an honorable way to live life.

Your wife seems like she would be accepting of pot use. Keep it to that, tell your wife, and start being an adult
 
Its not that I think no one notices that I'm high, I just don't care :D
 
OP, first of all, there are a lot of reasons why someone might look "out of it" at a family get together. Maybe she's going through changes that MIGHT involve religion, philosophy of life, sexuality, a breakup, the death of a friend, a friend's struggles, job worries, finances, etc.

Maybe her life or her views are totally different from those of the rest of the family and she feels like an outsider and is struggling with that conflict? Is she adopted? Do you know? Or maybe the things they talk about at the dinner table make her sick because they hold totally different opinions from her, ie. racist, sexist, political? Had she had an unpleasant interaction with her boy/girlfriend, mother, father, siblings, step-mom, step-dad? There are a lot of reasons aside from drugs why she might look "out of it."The things I just listed were the result of RANDOM guesses right off the top of my head.

But I don't understand your reaction. Even if she was high and was nodding or something, why not just talk to her? Be compassionate, not pushy, and ask her if anything's up. She has every right to maintain her privacy, especially since, to be honest, you don't sound like the kind of person I'd first open myself up to if I were going through some troubled times. But maybe she would welcome your concern and your solicitude.

You know, I'm not trying to hate on you. I think maybe you just hadn't thought this through very clearly. But if you want to be a friend or a source of support, think about what your motivations were when you posted. Maybe you're just really, really worried about her. If so, get in touch with her and see if things are all right. If you're not close enough to her to feel comfortable doing that, then I've got to say, you're not close enough to be judging her.
 
Being able to hide the fact that you're high is a great skill to have. If I try hard enough, I can pull off almost anything, nitrous and salvia not withstanding. However, besides acting normal, you also have to not smell like drugs or look like you're on drugs.

Cigarette smoke smells way more than weed smoke. Your hand will smell like it for at least a few hours. If you have long sleeves that aren't rolled up, they will smell and for a while. Weed smoke is strong at first, but it doesn't really stick. You can smoke in a house for a week and come back the next day and not smell a thing. I've tried it. Alcohol also smells way more than people think. I've found you can minimize it by keeping the cap on the bottle and drinking shots right after you pour them. Anyone who drinks it will still smell a little though.

Red eyes are also a big giveaway but visine will take care of that. Huge pupils can't really be dealt with, but if you're normal otherwise, no one will notice and you can completely play it off if they do. Confidence is the key. I have a friend who had to deal with cops on 75 mg of methoxetamine and they didn't notice. You just have to suck it up and drag as much of your brain back to reality as possible and deal with the situation and it will work 95% of the time.
 
visine is weak. use naphcon a or rohto
my eyes are always pinpoint when I see my parents, but they drug test me and I always pass. This is because I take suboxone and the test doesn't search for that. I use opiates only when
I know I wont be tested for 4-5 days later.

can't beat cold hard facts
 
MemphisX3 said:
rofl i have no idea....i know almost every hardcore heroin abuser i know thinks the same thing though.


when i was deep into dope i thought i was so sly that no one would notice. i also didnt realize that when i fight nods my eyes were rolling back into the back of my head.

i think its just a junky's way of being high whenever he wants and not having to feel guilt or whatever. he wants to get high but he wants to be around people so he lies to himself and makes himself believe no one notices so he doesnt have to deal with the issues.
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Hahaha I just noticed that the other day too. I was at a friends house and we were watching tv after just smoking a few bong hits. I started nodding really badly but none of my friends know I do opiates so I was trying to hide it. I noticed every time I tried to force my eyes open, they would roll back in my head. It's actually really hard to stop a strong nod.

On psychedelics (LSD mostly) I really don't care if people know that I'm high. I always walk around in bright colors, doing weird things trying to get people to look.
 
BECAUSE BRO IF I JUST dont look anyone in the eyes and every time I *sniff* to get that drip back up I just follow it up with "ahh man damn cold weather"

No one knows
 
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