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Why all of my psychedelics comedown are horrible ? :(

Oops sorry I forgot to reply to that part in my post, mostly because you and Never already mentioned it. I feel both skipping medication doses and the frequency of tripping has led to these effects. You shouldn't skip your medication just to trip, as withdrawal from benzos can be severe and even in rare cases life-threatening. If you wish to avoid the benzos reducing the efficacy of a trip, I'd suggest maybe lowering your dose on the day of your trip - e.g. 3x 2mg a day rather than 4x 2mg a day, but nothing dramatic or you'll experience side-effects as you have already. :)
 
Thank you I really appreciated your question !

NVB I was wondering if it's possible that there is any interactions with Benzo and 2C-X ? How are you really sure ? I mean you know 2C-D somewhat feel speedy (and I'm sure it is) and since benzo are sedative and relax the heart, it would be weird because the stimulating aspect of the drug will be there but it will be mixed with the sedative effects... It's not dangerous ?

No there isn't any contraindication between psychedelics and benzos 100% guaranteed. If you are overly stimulated, you will be treated with a sedative, they can't cause danger by "confusing your brain/heart" or anything of the sort that the old urban legends say. Like IamMe and I have already said, given your dosing regimen (4mg xanax at once) you are almost certainly dependent on benzodiazepines, withdrawal from them would explain your panic reactions and other negative symptoms. So the #1 thing to do is take your medication as normal when you are tripping.

You stop taking a medicine you are prescribed for severe anxiety and develop severe anxiety, why is it so hard to see that this is nor merely coincidence but a cause-effect relationship? Maybe you can get away with missing a dose or two normally during the day, but the psychological changes resulting from psychedelics, after you pass peak effects where it's all fun and stuff, are going to make it much easier to develop negative psychological states than you would normally for the duration. (Please read more about benzodiazepines and their reactions with other drugs online, or talk to your doctor, if you don't believe us).

Also, Jesus gave sage advice and I should have caught it as well, you are tripping much to often. Kick it down to once every 3-4 weeks at most. Do not alter your benzo regimen, and be prepared to take more than normal if your normal dosages are too much.

kishka said:
Infact yesterday night, I tried 2C-C again. I mix 25 mg with a glass of water, I drink like the 3/4 of the glass. Then I waited and I felt bad I was fighting to not have a bad trip, I was feeling cold, trembling, jittery (nervous), want to move everywhere and talk to reassures myself, tightness in the chest.

Fighting it will only make it worse.


Also, for homework, please review (skim/look over) the following threads:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/343407-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Set-and-Setting-Thread
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/322115-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Trip-Preparation-Thread
 
I want to thank you to all of you who replied to me with such a kind manner :)

I will space my trip, I will still take my benzos then and take lower dose anyway.

Thank you !!
 
As you said, space your trips out. Another thing, if you start to feel like you can never have a positive trip again like you said. Change set + setting, this will make a huge difference but make sure its still a very positive and relaxed one, just different :)

Also go with the advice on trying some classics but as I said before, 25I-NBOMe, I do not reccomend for you to take, at least till theres more info on it but hands down that had the least of all the side effects you mentioned as I get them a lot when coming down + up on RC's. It was the smoothest ride with zero to a very very pleasent benzo feeling body load with not much mental anxiety or anything like that. It seems like you know exactly what to do to make tripping that special experiance again so goodluck :)
 
The user hoffmanblotter and me also have this problems on 4-ho-met comedown. It's physically dangerous at that point imho.

I used 4-ho-met some times before and never had problems, it came later somehow. I never abused it, I always let some months time between trips and integrate them into life.
This made me stop using psychedelics actually. I tried 4-aco-mipt, strange bodyload somehow now. I tried 25b-nbome some weeks ago and it was okay actually and felt like a tryptamine.

My first experiences were with 2c-e. The 4-ho-met came later. I had a bad trip once with 4-ho-met and an accidential OD of JWH-122 because optically it looked less and I just eyeballed. I'm not sure how much that manifested in my mind. My bp and pulse were very high and dangerous. My doc friends who saw the bp-device later said that the values were very bad. My pulse was 160+, bp was like over 160/40, was semi fainting, palpitations, was just waiting to die and didn't call ambulance or something. The comedowns from 4-ho-met also take longer now and it's nowwhere enjoyable.

It feels like something is happening in my gi-tract.

I'm not sure if I tried to integrate the bad trip into my life. I somehow never thought about it anymore, now I do and I kinda don't want to think about it. I experienced the situation as a real danger for my life. Even though I don't really fear death I still don't want to give up this wonderful life ;)

I don't do any psychoactives at the moment and don't plan to do but I thought I should post this here. I hope Hoffmanblotter can also say something.
 
First off I want to say that this problems just exist with me and that my first trips were always without too much bodyload beside dysphoria maybe on comeup. 2c-e sucked for the first and on the last time for me. It was like my gi-tract was closed and gases were building up and I couldn't let them out till I came down.

Yes, I tend to have gi-issues with cannabis in general but it goes away when I'm sober. But even if I don't use any cannabinoid to combo I still have these issues. Iirc on the comedown it felt like my gi-tract is moving. It may be psychosomatic on the comedown because of the bad trip once but you know it feels real for me in that situation. The thing is after that I didn't use psychedelics for a while, like over a half year at least and then tried 15mg of 4-aco-mipt in the summer and also felt weak during the trip and just slightly like that feeling described.

I'm not sure what's happening. I never tripped too often, I always let a good amount of time between my trips. When I tripped I always tried to make the most of it, that's why I combined with cannabinoids like 250. On combination you needed way less amount to have a very intense mind trip. I always had the goal to understand more about life and I think I reached my goal of enlightening by this way. After that particular trip, I did this combo with some friends and it worked the same way for them but at that day the first bad comedown happened. I actually didn't want to trip at that day, I feel like I don't need to do psychedelics anymore because life is a way more interesting trip. ;) BUT I still tried four things after that. The time with the 122 badtrip, a big pause after that, my last time 2c-e as described at the beginning, 4-aco-mipt in a summer which was okay but felt different than before and 25b-nbome some weeks ago which was a very nice and easy trip without bodyload beside that there was a strange feeling on my right front side in the height of the lower end of the liver. I'm not sure how to describe it, it felt acidy, like a cool burning. I don't think it's important. Trips were never without any bodyload at all so that was no real problem for me.

I don't know but I don't have any goal any more in trips. I don't see a reason to do them beside curiosity. Psychedelics are powerful tools for personal growth. I'd like to try 25c and 25i low dosed, too because 25b already felt like a tryptamine instead of phen.

This all could be psychologically and the bad trip contributed to it but it's really happening at the comedown so it's real stress for me.
 
I am in pain for over a day after every single trip. I started often experiencing depression for days to come as well. Therefore I stopped using all psychedelics aside from dmt, which does the exact opposite. :D It feels as if it heals my every ache for days, gives me appetite and refreshes me like a glass of cold water after a mountain hike in august.

Also the last two trips (2C-E and DOC) had me throw up, DOC only a few times, but 2C-E for hours on end. Hard to believe it was still absolutely magical hm? :D
 
First off I want to say that this problems just exist with me and that my first trips were always without too much bodyload beside dysphoria maybe on comeup. 2c-e sucked for the first and on the last time for me. It was like my gi-tract was closed and gases were building up and I couldn't let them out till I came down.

It's very common for 2c-e to cause gas build up and the odd pains/discomfort related to it for the duration of a trip.
 
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