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Who is aware of the Betchtels and the Betchtel Corporation?

neversickanymore

neversickanymore

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So I may be in the minority.. but im thinking not. You know anything about this family and business? I didn't until today.. They are super wealthy, powerful and paranoid secretive. Just started this book..

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World: Denton, Sally: 9781476706474: Amazon.com: Books

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World [Denton, Sally] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
www.amazon.com

Wow.. I had no idea. Still don't know the whole story and its claimed thats exactly how they want it.

Started as some western US road grating company, built the Hover Damn, Channel Tunnel and thats just the start. Been in league with the US with nuclear weapons and has been a ridiculous power since President Eisenhower and have been rolling billion dollar contracts with the US and other nations ever since. In with US intelligence dog shit too.

Story is free on audible if you have an account... just getting into it. can't believe these people were not even on my radar?
 
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I have seen some of their office buildings, but beyond that don't know much about them I'll have to check it out.
 
deficiT said:
I have seen some of their office buildings, but beyond that don't know much about them I'll have to check it out.
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The revolving door aspect brought up in the book is really disturbing.. mainly function off very very large Government contracts.. and they are filled with x influential government employees that suddenly are making so much more working for Bechtel then they could dream of working for the US gov.

They are the company that got the contract to rebuild Iraq, before the war even started.. so it could even be legitimately claimed that one of the big reasons for the Iraq war was so that this company could make billions failing to rebuild it.

The US taxpayers are one of the major contributors to the Bechtel coffers.
 
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any connections with MK-ultra or similar programs then?
I think that's where the story "hides" itself, I don't think that (program) ended in any way and I think that program was just the tip of the iceberg of something much more creepy and big-sized
 
Neuroborean said:
any connections with MK-ultra or similar programs then?
I think that's where the story "hides" itself, I don't think that (program) ended in any way and I think that program was just the tip of the iceberg of something much more creepy and big-sized
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No, I have not come across anything that links them in with the MK programs in the past or MKwhateverthefucktheycallittoday.

The Profiteers lays out the story of this MAJOR company and it also shows emergence of an elite power set.. when you read or listen to this book you get a picture of the "revolving door" concept they present. Very intelligent, affluent and privileged Americans cycle from powerful positions in higher education, government and a lucrative private sector portion thats business largely dependent on US government funded mega projects.

Its also mind blowing what they have accomplished with this alignment.. they also seem to be shitting the bed lately. Society is constantly changing though and with the major changing of the guard from the baby boomers to we who follow it. Going to be interesting how things settle out.

We have the giant leap forward.. now we get to see where we as a society end up.
 
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neversickanymore said:
No, I have not come across anything that links them in with the MK programs in the past or MKwhateverthefucktheycallittoday.

The Profiteers lays out the story of this MAJOR company and it also shows emergence of an elite power set.. when you read or listen to this book you get a picture of the "revolving door" concept they present. Very intelligent, affluent and privileged Americans cycle from powerful positions in higher education, government and a lucrative private sector portion thats business largely dependent on US government funded mega projects.

Its also mind blowing what they have accomplished with this alignment.. they also seem to be shitting the bed lately. Society is constantly changing though and with the major changing of the guard from the baby boomers to we who follow it. Going to be interesting how things settle out.

We have the giant leap forward.. now we get to see where we as a society end up.
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Yeah, in my country in southern europe we have that crap, since "ancient times" so to speak, the revolving doors.
Now is developing, worldwide into some kind of gigantic mafia, Globalism, on which those multi-national companies get a hold of public space through those "contracts" but really there's nothing like what "people" want, much more about what those companies want to do and then they have the "politicians" as people who sell the idea those people want, now we have seen it clearly with the Plandemic, they had an economic plan and it worked! they had the proper people in places! and after fulfilling the plan into the public space, they can jump into the Elite, in the private space...
they have behaved well, like obedient children!
Probably they have been doing it since a very long time, in different ways. Public space is fake, politicians are slaves of the real powers or actors.. or infiltrators.

I don't see how the change from boomers to us is going to change, if the youngest generations (GenZ) seems so incredibly lobotomized.

I think there's going to be changes, but because they know that leap needs to be, and they will probably try to create some kind of pseudo-revolution as they have been essaying everywhere, the "color revolutions" "15M" "Occupy-whatever", not saying that those events hadn't good people, I believe most people there had good intentions and wanted sincerely to change things, with good reasons. The problem is always the HOW and specially, how to communicate this "how" in a way it could work, massively and fluidly, without counting with already done institutions, or depending on them as least as possible (as if you get into it, the game eats you (we saw that, infinitely).
 
Neuroborean said:
any connections with MK-ultra or similar programs then?
I think that's where the story "hides" itself, I don't think that (program) ended in any way and I think that program was just the tip of the iceberg of something much more creepy and big-sized
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It certainly has not ended. I think what they do is end a portion like MKULTRA was ended and then MKDELTA just picked up. That way they can say that the MKULTRA program was officially ended. Just a bullshit game really.

I think your exactly right. The tech and resultant capabilities from this program are going to be life changing on a global scale on a level never seen before. They are still holding out for a system that is able to individually alter behavior and thinking to the ones they desire.

The capabilities of the current system, deployed against an entire population, would make crime almost impossible, but our societies are so full of crime from the top to the bottom but who would allow that. The politicians, the intelligence community, the corporations.. so it will be deployed broadly, but selectively. They need it to work flawlessly or we will all just rise up and that will be that. Who at that point determines the law.


It’s potential for oppression and abuse is astronomical. The ability technology has to provide the few to control the many is terrifying and the "smart" people just keep progressing that ability for the antisocial freaks.

I have the basic ideas for and have been brainstorming a novel that will depict how this may play out.
 
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neversickanymore said:
It certainly has not ended. I think what they do is end a portion like MKULTRA was ended and then MKDELTA just picked up. That way they can say that the MKULTRA program was officially ended. Just a bullshit game really.
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Didn't hear about mkdelta but I've read several books of Fritz Springmeier about Project Monarch and I can even tell that I've seen symptoms of mind control in some person close to mine (I would not tell anything else if not PM cause it's terrible and intimate). I understand that most people reading this would consider myself paranoid on this, but I'm also sure that if someone who had read Fritz's books and experienced the same events I did, would feel at least very uneasy

neversickanymore said:
I think your exactly right. The tech and resultant capabilities from this program are going to be life changing on a global scale on a level never seen before. They are still holding out for a system that is able to individually alter behavior and thinking to the ones they desire.
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That's what's sad about most leftists these days, they have a romantic point
view of human beings and their potential for freedom (based on nature and not on God, or on a divinization of nature) that prevents them from seeing that the power of the elites is dangerous enough to come to control human behavior almost completely, if we let them move forward with the technological issue.

It is very ironic to see, since most of so it will be deployed broadly, but selectively. They need it to work flawlessly or we will all just rise up and that will be that. Who at that point determines the law.
neversickanymore said:
It’s potential for oppression and abuse is astronomical. The ability technology has to provide the few to control the many is terrifying and the "smart" people just keep progressing that ability for the antisocial freaks.

I have the basic ideas for and have been brainstorming a novel that will depict how this may play out.
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I think they basically want to create definite human political, social, economic and, most importantly, biological castes... Before it was impossible but now they could create biological slaves that die within 50 years, less if they abuse drugs (for example) and they can separate completely from us, like being completely different types of beings, in all senses, that's what transhumanism is all about, they loved the indian ideas of castes, and want to apply it with some kind of brave new world technocratic scheme, is so fucking horrible.
view of human beings and their potential for freedom (based on nature and not on God, or on a divinization of nature) that prevents them from seeing that the power of the elites is dangerous enough to come to control human behavior almost completely, if we let them move forward with the technological issue.

It is very ironic to see, since most of them rely on culture and technology but have romanticized nature and freedom, so they think that human freedom can never be completely curtailed.
In some sense they are right, but they are very very naive and I think it is just wishful-thinking, in most cases.
 
Neuroborean said:
Didn't hear about mkdelta but I've read several books of Fritz Springmeier about Project Monarch and I can even tell that I've seen symptoms of mind control in some person close to mine (I would not tell anything else if not PM cause it's terrible and intimate). I understand that most people reading this would consider myself paranoid on this, but I'm also sure that if someone who had read Fritz's books and experienced the same events I did, would feel at least very uneasy


That's what's sad about most leftists these days, they have a romantic point
view of human beings and their potential for freedom (based on nature and not on God, or on a divinization of nature) that prevents them from seeing that the power of the elites is dangerous enough to come to control human behavior almost completely, if we let them move forward with the technological issue.

It is very ironic to see, since most of so it will be deployed broadly, but selectively. They need it to work flawlessly or we will all just rise up and that will be that. Who at that point determines the law.

I think they basically want to create definite human political, social, economic and, most importantly, biological castes... Before it was impossible but now they could create biological slaves that die within 50 years, less if they abuse drugs (for example) and they can separate completely from us, like being completely different types of beings, in all senses, that's what transhumanism is all about, they loved the indian ideas of castes, and want to apply it with some kind of brave new world technocratic scheme, is so fucking horrible.
view of human beings and their potential for freedom (based on nature and not on God, or on a divinization of nature) that prevents them from seeing that the power of the elites is dangerous enough to come to control human behavior almost completely, if we let them move forward with the technological issue.

It is very ironic to see, since most of them rely on culture and technology but have romanticized nature and freedom, so they think that human freedom can never be completely curtailed.
In some sense they are right, but they are very very naive and I think it is just wishful-thinking, in most cases.
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Well said. What’s crazy is your talking sense and how difficult it is to convince good people what’s going on. You may not have seen this, but I’m a victim of the modern MK program.. or at least I assume that’s what it is.. I mean what else could it be?

Would Remote Mind Control Be Possible With Current Technology?

I'm somewhat of a skeptic on this conspiracy theory, but I have often wondered if it would be possible. There are people who call themselves "targeted individuals" and claim that the government is using HAARP and/or other high tech installations to beam mind control signals into their brain. In...
bluelight.org bluelight.org

So, yes I’m over five years into this shit show. It’s amazing looking at peoples reactions to postings about it. Fortunately, there has been less backlash then I expected. This is likely due to the amazing Bluelight community and my 27000 post long standing participation here. It’s apparently really hard to discredit 27000+ plus posts in a super bright ass community like ours.. yep that shits just not going to
happen ❤️❤️❤️

So that is a running thread on my experience.. please keep in mind I had no clue when attacked and am still working out some of this football bat.. giggles because I’m in the driver seat at this point.


Cringes, as they are going to scrap the mid evil horseshit soon in favor of a fully functional two way interface.

Can you imagine a society run buy military war retardation??

Yeah, shits going to be ugly on a whole new scale.
 
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neversickanymore said:
So I may be in the minority.. but im thinking not. You know anything about this family and business? I didn't until today.. They are super wealthy, powerful and paranoid secretive. Just started this book..

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World: Denton, Sally: 9781476706474: Amazon.com: Books

The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World [Denton, Sally] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
www.amazon.com

Wow.. I had no idea. Still don't know the whole story and its claimed thats exactly how they want it.

Started as some western US road grating company, built the Hover Damn, Channel Tunnel and thats just the start. Been in league with the US with nuclear weapons and has been a ridiculous power since President Eisenhower and have been rolling billion dollar contracts with the US and other nations ever since. In with US intelligence dog shit too.

Story is free on audible if you have an account... just getting into it. can't believe these people were not even on my radar?
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The nuclear project spawned a number of organizations that never went away.

There is some crazy engineering firms that no one knows about because the work they do is often for governments or other big companies.

Deep state indeed.
 
neversickanymore said:
Cringes, as they are going to scrap the mid evil horseshit soon in favor of a fully functional two way interface.

Can you imagine a society run buy military war retardation??

Yeah, shits going to be ugly on a whole new scale.
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Can you elaborate more on that last parts please?

I will read that thread carefully whenever freer, now I still need to fix things in my "new" home (I'm back to where I lived the last 3 years)

I think the 80s and 90s mk-like programs were mix of Occult with technology, driven probably by the Jesuits, and not so much the CIA or military, at least in Europe.
I am going to tell you 2 points that I think are essential for them, to carry out their programming:
private religious (or alternative education) schools (Jesuits, Opus Dei, Montessori, Waldorf...).
and private psych wards for re-programming.

I suppose that in some cases it could also be done in public, depending on the context and country. Not too long ago I saw news from my country of a public school where pedophilia was recorded, it was clearly linked to public powers, and not just a depraved teacher. These matters simply do not come to light, beyond the minimum, and are part of a large network. Interestingly, at least one of the abused children was the son of a mother who had been abused as a child, a very paradigmatic issue of the mk-ultra/monarch programs and the SRA, where it exists, family sagas of abusers and abused...
 
Neuroborean said:
Can you elaborate more on that last parts please?

I will read that thread carefully whenever freer, now I still need to fix things in my "new" home (I'm back to where I lived the last 3 years)

I think the 80s and 90s mk-like programs were mix of Occult with technology, driven probably by the Jesuits, and not so much the CIA or military, at least in Europe.
I am going to tell you 2 points that I think are essential for them, to carry out their programming:
private religious (or alternative education) schools (Jesuits, Opus Dei, Montessori, Waldorf...).
and private psych wards for re-programming.

I suppose that in some cases it could also be done in public, depending on the context and country. Not too long ago I saw news from my country of a public school where pedophilia was recorded, it was clearly linked to public powers, and not just a depraved teacher. These matters simply do not come to light, beyond the minimum, and are part of a large network. Interestingly, at least one of the abused children was the son of a mother who had been abused as a child, a very paradigmatic issue of the mk-ultra/monarch programs and the SRA, where it exists, family sagas of abusers and abused...
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This is the future.. The bullshit im bombarded with is mid evil nonsense. They say the new dynamic is to control weapons, but only a halfwit would buy that.. you won't need weapons if this ends up working.. and it likely will.

 
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