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Lost Ego

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How do you find yourself (ie. self identification, soul searching)?

Is religion necessary in this process?

Who is you? Who is self?

Do we even have a self?
 
i would say that religion is the process of "self identification, soul searching." That being said i believe organized religion to be fake and a not actually religious.
those first two questions, to me, are the fundamental questions that religion tries to answer. For the third question i would recommend reading Descarte, but ignore all his bullshit about proving that god exists because for one thing his logic is flawed and it can be argued that his time period forced him to come to that conclusion.
good luck
 
i already read some of descartes but became uninterested after the 3rd chapter when he tries to prove/disprove god. i'll make a point to read the rest of the book. i also am torrenting the tao te ching, daoism isnt really an organized religion is it?
 
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You identity is not a noun or any abstract label, it is a feeling.
The search for identity is a search for a feeling/mood/emotion.

I believe I am the feeling of being in the present moment.

As for religion, I see it as a means of psychotherapy in the sense that it is program of beliefs and practices that help you anchor the feeling of bliss in everyday life.


And IMO all religions are structured so that when you practice them you can identify yourself with love- the highest (most euphoric) state of self one can attain.
 
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you find yourself through experience

"truth is a pathless land"
you cant really follow someone else footstep to find yourself
religion can be pretty useless without the religious experience which would compare to a psychedelic experience

yourself is there as long as the ego is there, its what separate "yours" from the rest
but on a deeper level we are all one, so you have a self in a similar way that you have a shirt


relations are what defines the self
 
um im not sure if its organized i know that religion is viewed rather differently in the east than here in the west. For example there are many Chinese who practice ancestral worship, Confucianism and doaism perhaps even Buddhism and its not considered a conflict of interests. Either way you can always learn from it, no harm in that. My problem with organized religion is alot of this christian/Islamic bullshit that stems from people having religious power.
Also i agree with you, Quantum, that religion is in someway or another a psychotherapy except that religion is much older and broader thus psychotherapy is more of a form of religion than vice versa.
 
relax and take some time to look in the mirror and meditate. You might be surprised by what finds you and what you see.
 
You are an amalgamation of the various perspectives that perceive your existence - both everyone and no one simultaneously.
 
smoke some N,N,DMT and you may find answers

that shit altered my perspective of myself
 
Of what significance is the status of my identity?

Answer mine and I will try to answer yours.
 
How do you find yourself (ie. self identification, soul searching)?

I believe we create ourselves, rather than finding ourselves.

Is religion necessary in this process?

Absolutely not.
Spirituality, possibly, but not organized religion. That is a cheap shortcut that will only do us disservice in the end.
 
Language is the cause of so much controversy and debate, so often people argue against one another while making the same exact point, yet here I am using language because, so far, it is the only way in which we know how to articulate our communications. The largest problem is connotation. Words hold power only insofar as what ideas and images they are connected to. Since we all attribute various connotations to words in our lexicon we are destined to misunderstand one another. However, with my disclaimer nearing its end, I will make an attempt to explain a concept which shows how self both exists and does not exist and this paradox is the only way which the omniverse will have it.

God (I can hear the connotations brewing already), you must imagine, is like an infinite pool of water. Time is the temperature, the thermodynamics which define the state of the water, of God. God in a neutral state is liquid. It is malleable and indefinable; it is all things. But without movement, God is still, the water is silent and motionless. Consciousness is movement. Consciousness forms ripples in the water. Time, which is like temperature, freezes moments, freezes the ripples into protrusions of ice.

We are protrusions of ice, connected to the great pool of water that is God, and we float about like glaciers upon the surface of the sea. As time goes on, we freeze further, our egos striving desperately to define who we are, what we like, what we don't like, who our friends are, what we want, what we think is right and wrong and so on. Each definition is a chip of ice broken off. Because in us, in the water which is God, is all potential. When we make choices in defining who we are we remove one side of a polar object. For instance, the objective truth of the omniverse prefers neither happiness nor sadness, it accepts both and thus both exist. We, on the other hand, choose which to allow in our lives at least to the extent which we have the power to do so.

All through our lives we are sculpting away at an individual, becoming more and more unlike any other person in existence because, remember we are reactionary beings. We see things we like and we react by reflecting. We see something we dislike and we react by doing the opposite or something different. I could go into systems theory and further dissect this point, explicating how it is we become so unlike one another on a certain level, but I'll save it for another time.

The main point is that we are like ice sculpture glaciers and now let's take into account the question which was originally asked 'How do you find yourself?' 'Do we have a self?' Yes, of course we have a self. And on the contrary, I think this is a most unimportant inquiry. We find ourselves each and every day doing and choosing and saying and reacting to the world. In any given moment of reflection we have found our 'selves'. The self is not what is truly important when it comes to this age old journey of spiritual discovery.

Keeping my metaphorical model in mind about God as water and individuals as ice sculptures, the spiritual journey, much like the psychedelic experience, should be a process of 'melting'. By melting we reacquire the other side of our discarded polar objects, we accept paradox because objective truth, and now this is important, truth is paradoxical in nature. There is no black. There is no white. There is only that nameless nothing which is black and white and it is not two things. Truth is the timeless, harmonious unity of paradox. I could digress a great deal here, but I will refrain.

The self, let's define connotations--the self being a human individual--is knowable and quite easily I might add. Religion is the phenomenon where people worship a, most often, man who claims to have seen God. Desiring themselves to see and know God, people become followers and worshipers of this prophet. It does no one any good. One ice sculpture worshiping another ice sculpture is nothing but an absurdity. I would perhaps like to paint this and have a good laugh at it.

Melt, merge, drown, assimilate, these are things which the self must do. The self seeking itself out is a dog chasing his own tail, finding nothing. Climbing back up into your mother's womb does one no good either, regression would be a mistake. Sub-merge into the sea of divine consciousness and e-merge with new eyes.
 
"All through our lives we are sculpting away at an individual, becoming more and more unlike any other person in existence because, remember we are reactionary beings. We see things we like and we react by reflecting. We see something we dislike and we react by doing the opposite or something different. I could go into systems theory and further dissect this point, explicating how it is we become so unlike one another on a certain level, but I'll save it for another time."

I'd like you to go into it!
 
i would say that religion is the process of "self identification, soul searching."
there are many different religions and they have different reasons to be

for instance, from fom understanding, the reason the 3 religions of the book were created was to answer the question "why are we here?"
nothing to do with soul searching

smoke some N,N,DMT and you may find answers
that
(or eat it, which make answers easier to assimilate)

as to my answer

who are you?
we are the universe
 
infact DMT altered my perspective of everything. it'll teach you. might try some ayahuasca
 
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