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Who are you?

me, in a nutshell,

You have the potential to be a source of inspiration and illumination for people. You possess an inordinate amount of energy and intuition. There is so much going on in your psyche that you are often misunderstood early in life, making you shy and withdrawn. You have far more potential than you know. You galvanize every situation you enter. You inspire people, but without your conscious effort. Energy seems to flow through you without your controlling it. This gives you both power and sometimes emotional turmoil. You are a channel for information between the higher and the lower, between the realm of the archetype and the relative world. Ideas, thoughts, understanding, and insight - all of these can come to you without your having to go through a rational thought process. There seems to be a bridge, or connection, between your conscious and unconscious realms, attuning you to a high level of intuition through which even psychic information can flow. All of this amounts to a great capacity for invention. Many inventors, artists, religious leaders, prophets, and leading figures in history ........... and there is so much more. Meet me and you know.
 
thanks man,

i got this from a psychic based website self test after I kept seeing 11:11, 12:34, 3:33 et... the ONLY times I really ever looked to see what time it was.

Happening to me for 10+ yrs, no fuckin jokes. and recently a dream came totally fukin true in regards to a pain clinic that was taking over my pain meds and treatment ... I swear I dreamnt what happened 5 days prior to going to see them for the final time.

I had to reach out after this. cuz the words spoken were dead on as per my dream. Too bad I cant expand this gift to the lottery. =D

^ deep. you speak sense
 
Language is the cause of so much controversy and debate, so often people argue against one another while making the same exact point, yet here I am using language because, so far, it is the only way in which we know how to articulate our communications. The largest problem is connotation. Words hold power only insofar as what ideas and images they are connected to. Since we all attribute various connotations to words in our lexicon we are destined to misunderstand one another. However, with my disclaimer nearing its end, I will make an attempt to explain a concept which shows how self both exists and does not exist and this paradox is the only way which the omniverse will have it.

God (I can hear the connotations brewing already), you must imagine, is like an infinite pool of water. Time is the temperature, the thermodynamics which define the state of the water, of God. God in a neutral state is liquid. It is malleable and indefinable; it is all things. But without movement, God is still, the water is silent and motionless. Consciousness is movement. Consciousness forms ripples in the water. Time, which is like temperature, freezes moments, freezes the ripples into protrusions of ice.

We are protrusions of ice, connected to the great pool of water that is God, and we float about like glaciers upon the surface of the sea. As time goes on, we freeze further, our egos striving desperately to define who we are, what we like, what we don't like, who our friends are, what we want, what we think is right and wrong and so on. Each definition is a chip of ice broken off. Because in us, in the water which is God, is all potential. When we make choices in defining who we are we remove one side of a polar object. For instance, the objective truth of the omniverse prefers neither happiness nor sadness, it accepts both and thus both exist. We, on the other hand, choose which to allow in our lives at least to the extent which we have the power to do so.

All through our lives we are sculpting away at an individual, becoming more and more unlike any other person in existence because, remember we are reactionary beings. We see things we like and we react by reflecting. We see something we dislike and we react by doing the opposite or something different. I could go into systems theory and further dissect this point, explicating how it is we become so unlike one another on a certain level, but I'll save it for another time.

The main point is that we are like ice sculpture glaciers and now let's take into account the question which was originally asked 'How do you find yourself?' 'Do we have a self?' Yes, of course we have a self. And on the contrary, I think this is a most unimportant inquiry. We find ourselves each and every day doing and choosing and saying and reacting to the world. In any given moment of reflection we have found our 'selves'. The self is not what is truly important when it comes to this age old journey of spiritual discovery.

Keeping my metaphorical model in mind about God as water and individuals as ice sculptures, the spiritual journey, much like the psychedelic experience, should be a process of 'melting'. By melting we reacquire the other side of our discarded polar objects, we accept paradox because objective truth, and now this is important, truth is paradoxical in nature. There is no black. There is no white. There is only that nameless nothing which is black and white and it is not two things. Truth is the timeless, harmonious unity of paradox. I could digress a great deal here, but I will refrain.

The self, let's define connotations--the self being a human individual--is knowable and quite easily I might add. Religion is the phenomenon where people worship a, most often, man who claims to have seen God. Desiring themselves to see and know God, people become followers and worshipers of this prophet. It does no one any good. One ice sculpture worshiping another ice sculpture is nothing but an absurdity. I would perhaps like to paint this and have a good laugh at it.

Melt, merge, drown, assimilate, these are things which the self must do. The self seeking itself out is a dog chasing his own tail, finding nothing. Climbing back up into your mother's womb does one no good either, regression would be a mistake. Sub-merge into the sea of divine consciousness and e-merge with new eyes.

If god is nothingness and we are just an extension of god then should we not also be defined by nothing. It would seem our realities are delusional
 
The self is an ever evolving relational entity.

The self is a circular mirror that reflects whatever falls upon it infinitely within its' confines.


I love that description :)

What's interesting is when you begin to see yourself in everyone and everything you can no longer run from yourself, pulling your attention to the present moment.. The idea of you ceases to exist and you simply are.

My own experience of this was when I was traveling through southern Spain, and I was walking through the Muslim quarter of Granada.. Self-conscious and concerned about my appearance, unable to speak the language and traveling alone, i reached a point where my sense of self just collapsed and dissolved, I could no longer carry this idea of myself around in such an unfamiliar place.

The separation I created between myself and the people/country dissolved and I ceased to exist, but at the same time I saw myself reflected everywhere.

I've had the experience on psychedelics but it was really something else to witness it unfold under an entirely different set of circumstances.
 
We have so many selves. Its crazy the number of personas I need to adjust into so I can go through daily life. I don't even know if I want to exist after I die.

If I take the long dirt nap, and it turns out that it was always going to be just a long dirt nap after a brief appearance on earth, I'm good with that.
 
I don't believe religion is necessary... especially not organized religion. Personally, I've 'found' myself so far by experiencing life and meditation... and my experiences with certain substances. :)
 
Self is a perception of you, you are a representative of I. I is always capital because you derive from I, what yourself wishes to be recognized as.

I is the signal

You are the receiver

Self is the radio

God is the DJ
;)

The dance, heheh, the dance is life !
 
Self is a perception of you, you are a representative of I. I is always capital because you derive from I, what yourself wishes to be recognized as.

I is the signal

You are the receiver

Self is the radio

God is the DJ
;)

The dance, heheh, the dance is life !

lol i thought "you" and "self" were one in the same. love the metaphor regardless
 
lol i thought "you" and "self" were one in the same. love the metaphor regardless

Your self is how you are, or want to be perceived.

Self is the representative of the decisions you make; how you present yourself.

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What you did say as your truth is what you experienced, but your experience is not mine, and so neither is your truth.

Self is shared between us, you and I are shared between yourself and mine.

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are you comfortable with yourself ?
 
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How do you find yourself (ie. self identification, soul searching)?

Ask lots of questions. For me, it's been using buddhist teachings and meditation, plus some emotional hardships which helped break barriers.

I think meditation helps because without strengthening our attention, it can be hard to penetrate the way we think. If you're new to meditation and are interested, try breathing meditation first. There's a bit of a "hump" to get over if you're new, but if you stick with it, you'll be able to rest with attention on the breath. From there, self-inquiry is more productive.

Is religion necessary in this process?

I don't think so. If you want to grow and be happier, does it really matter if there are gods or souls? We want there to be something else, but these questions are besides the point if we're strictly seeking personal growth.

Who is you? Who is self?

What is the mind? We experience thoughts, feelings, mental sensations, bodily sensations, sight, smell, hearing, and taste. These experiences are constantly arising and fading into other mental states. All of this might be said to happen "in the mind." So look at these experiences and try to recognize patterns in them. For example, if on Monday you behaved with really cold manners and on Tuesday you were very considerate and kind, does this make you a rude person or a kind one? Can you be both? Can you be neither?

Do we even have a self?

Good luck finding out the answer!
 
i believe we are all small parts of nothing. maybe what we think of as a subjective reality is merely a projection and we're vessels that are careening across planet earth. maybe we've been conditioned to accept ego as a representative; a guage that allows us to perceive ourselves and exist within our climate the way humanity has evolved..
 
You identity is not a noun or any abstract label, it is a feeling.
The search for identity is a search for a feeling/mood/emotion.

This. I realised this on my most recent acid trip. It hit me so hard I spent the next half hour crying my eyes out.

The funny thing is, I think I used to know it implicitly. I used to feel so safe within myself. Sadly that safety and self-knowledge has faded with time and left me with destructive false visages, which I'm only now trying to unravel with the aid of psychedelics.
 
How do you find yourself (ie. self identification, soul searching)?

Is religion necessary in this process?

Who is you? Who is self?

Do we even have a self?
What, exactly, is "finding yourself"?

Religion is never necessary for anything.

the term 'who' needs to be put into context to get any relevant answer.

Of course we have a selves, things would be quite confusing otherwise ;p
 
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