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Which is more relaxing: benzos or MDMA?

I decided to go with the benzos, more specifically etizolam. I am planning on dissolving it in some type of solvent so I can make sure I know exactly how much I am taking this time. I looked up Hydroxyzine and it sounds interesting. I would not really know how to obtain in though right now, but I will want to look into it. From what people say about benzo addiction it sounds terrible. But if I did I might be tempted to combine it with opiates because I read that it potentiate the effects.

I really only want to take etizolam in social situations, such as a party that I plan on going to next weekend. I think you guys may be right about rolling with sober people on MDMA. I met up with a girl from my university not too long ago to do chemistry homework and study for a test. The first time we got together I was sober and I'm pretty sure she thought I was pretty cool because she laughed at all my jokes and everything and I think we had a great back-and-forth conversation the whole time. The next time when I was rolling I pretty much spent most of the time talking about how high I was, drugs, random paranoid thoughts, and how I couldn't focus on anything. She really didn't talk to me much after that lol. But at the time I felt that I was on top of the world but I probably did come across as weird.

As for stimulants they sometimes work good in social situations for me but on those I also become paranoid and scatter-brained. I find that the right benzo is great for social situations, and much better than the traditional drink. Alcohol for me is too sloppy and it can really change your personality and make you become annoying, act like an asshole, or just act like a complete idiot. Benzos I feel just let you be super calm and easy-going. They don't really change your personality like other drugs. They really just let you be yourself while just being totally relaxed. I think it would be a lot easier to make friends on benzos because as long as you stick with a therapeutic dose they should even realize that you were on drugs. I think it is much easier to get people to like you if you just act like yourself and I'm usually pretty easy-going and friendly. I just find it difficult, as I'm sure a lot of people do, socializing with people that I have not met before at an event like a party. But I think it's all about dosage with benzos. Etizolam definitely does not sedate me as I walked over 10 miles in the middle of the summer during a etizolam blackout.

Did occasional benzo use help any of you with socializing and making new friends?
 
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I decided to go with the benzos, more specifically etizolam. I am planning on dissolving it in some type of solvent so I can make sure I know exactly how much I am taking this time. I looked up Hydroxyzine and it sounds interesting. I would not really know how to obtain in though right now, but I will want to look into it. From what people say about benzo addiction it sounds terrible. But if I did I might be tempted to combine it with opiates because I read that it potentiate the effects.

I really only want to take etizolam in social situations, such as a party that I plan on going to next weekend. I think you guys may be right about rolling with sober people on MDMA. I met up with a girl from my university not too long ago to do chemistry homework and study for a test. The first time we got together I was sober and I'm pretty sure she thought I was pretty cool because she laughed at all my jokes and everything and I think we had a great back-and-forth conversation the whole time. The next time when I was rolling I pretty much spent most of the time talking about how high I was, drugs, random paranoid thoughts, and how I couldn't focus on anything. She really didn't talk to me much after that lol. But at the time I felt that I was on top of the world but I probably did come across as weird.

As for stimulants they sometimes work good in social situations for me but on those I also become paranoid and scatter-brained. I find that the right benzo is great for social situations, and much better than the traditional drink. Alcohol for me is too sloppy and it can really change your personality and make you become annoying, act like an asshole, or just act like a complete idiot. Benzos I feel just let you be super calm and easy-going. They don't really change your personality like other drugs. They really just let you be yourself while just being totally relaxed. I think it would be a lot easier to make friends on benzos because as long as you stick with a therapeutic dose they should even realize that you were on drugs. I think it is much easier to get people to like you if you just act like yourself and I'm usually pretty easy-going and friendly. I just find it difficult, as I'm sure a lot of people do, socializing with people that I have not met before at an event like a party. But I think it's all about dosage with benzos. Etizolam definitely does not sedate me as I walked over 10 miles in the middle of the summer during a etizolam blackout.

Did occasional benzo use help any of you with socializing and making new friends?
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Most definitely. If I didn't a benzo before I went to school senior year, even if I was at the drugs kids or the "cool rebel kids whatever" at their lunch table and around them, I'd still be sitting on the sidelines (even if i was in the middle of all of em) and have extreme difficulty making real actual conversation with them. I would be the weird silent kid and cause of my friends, with no benzos, everyone else thought i was the weird, silent tweaker that was probably high as fuck on a shitton of drugs.

If I took benzos before school, it was magically different. I could talk to everyone, I was polite to everyone and mostly everyone was very polite back to me and thus when I took benzos is when I formulated the most lesser friendships with others and actualyl was able to communicate with them.

I think they thought the days I didn't talk I was just coming down from crystal meth or something so they might have been trying to give me peace lol
 
And for me it seems that I can never attract girls when I actually try to hit on them and try to "spit game". The only times that I have attracted girls is when I do absolutely nothing to try to attract them. It seems that I only get girls when I just talk to them like I would talk to anyone really, including my guy friends. I still have to open up and talk to them, but not by consciously trying to flirt with them. Now I am not saying that I can get any girl, which is not true at all but I at least will find some success. I don't think you have to try to be "cool" or anything to attract girls, you can just be nice and friendly. I know that girls like confidence but with benzos being confident does not even cross your mind because you don't have any anxieties, fears, or uncertainties to even give the term meaning. So this is why I am hopeful that benzos with help when meeting and talking to new people, especially girls. I will try it out this weekend and see how it goes.
 
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I had the same problem as you- social anxiety. Got addicted to benzos, took for months, stopped cold turkey many times between pay cheques till one horrible week without and I had a seizure. Now without benzos my social anxiety has turned into something much worse. The anxiety cripples me and I'm pretty much bed bound without benzos in my system. As other posters said, benzo addiction fucking sucks so please be careful and try your hardest to deal with your problems head on.
 
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yeah i went the same path with etizolam and am still on it and plan to be for at least a year or two. I've been addicted to benzos before, numerous times, did the whole sober thing, had anxiety my whole life anyway and just said fuck it i function better on etizolam than any other benzos and i'd rather self medicate than have to manipulate doctors and jump through insane hoops to get medication.

here's a big lesson i learned, if you take this path be prepared for the worst at all times. Always always secure your stash in a place you will not forget, always liquid dose, no exceptions there and make sure you have a supply that will last you at least 6 months. Also have a bunch of diazepam and other benzos just in case shit hits the fan and etizolam gets outlawed you can go to a dr and do a valium taper (which are horrible with most drs) and use your extra benzos to cushion the blow. It's a fucked up way to live but my anxiety is crippling and after years of benzo use is even worse, when i wasn't using benzos i was using opiates and at times using both. Not a path i recommend but i wouldn't have made it to where i am now without it. I also did a bunch of therapy sessions while on diazepam, which helped quite a bit but i'm so socially inhibited that i function so much better even academically while on benzos or even better with etizolam.

i agree with everyone in this thread pretty much; mdma makes you far too obviously high to be used for social anxiety. A benzo is in all cases better for that purpose. But mdma can be relaxing if you're by yourself or with a few friends, it doesn't skyrocket my anxiety like a strong stim will. Either way i won't touch mdma/methylone/stims if i don't have benzos/etizolam and z drugs to come down with.
 
You said you want to combine benzos with opiates because you hear it potentiates the effects. I do not reccomend this if you are new to either drug, this is a dangerous combonation and you will most likely just be fine with the benzos.
 
benzos, for sure.

when i take ecstasy i want to be chewing my face off, rolling around on the floor in hysterics and dripping in sweat, enjoying the fuck out of it.
 
did you try to take it just on social outings at first and just end up taking it all the time even when you weren't around other people? I've never really been addicted to it so I would not really know. Is it just hard to not take it regardless of social anxiety just because it so relaxing?
 
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