Where do You Find Self-Confidence?

What a great thread. Thanks, RL.:)

There are so many things that people have already written that I would love to second. The first is what Slimvictor said about going through difficulties or struggles, even traumas, and surviving them. Our impulse when faced with these situations is to run. One of the best metaphors I ever got for how to deal with what scares me was an underlying principle of judo. In judo, you take the attackers punch or kick and instead of trying to block it (and making yourself more vulnerable and off balance), you instead grasp what is coming at you and pull in the same direction while stepping out of the way; this puts the attacker off balance himself. In other words, you use the negative energy coming at you to your advantage and you simply keep it moving in that direction away from you.

That is an example of the actual body mechanics you would use in a physical attack. What I love is turning that into a metaphor for the other aspects of my life--the psychological attackers that come from within or without my own mind. Most of my fears when I was younger --fears about how I looked, how I was perceived or how desirable I was as a friend or lover could really be boiled down to the fear of loneliness. I decided to confront my fear of loneliness by learning to be alone. I concentrated on not needing other people to make me feel good (or bad) about myself. For the first time in my life (I was about 25) I didn't have a lover and I learned to sleep alone, eat alone, go to movies alone, confront my boredom alone. I even went out to clubs and bars and heard music alone. I went camping alone. The result of embracing my fear was that I completely killed it. I found that because I didn't need people to fulfill my own needs that it was so much easier and healthier to be with them. It was a choice, not a need.

What I did was pretty extreme but the same thing can be done in baby steps. What if you can't stop worrying about yourself and your mind is clogged with all sorts of negative self talk? Maybe the solution is to dedicate one day a week where you simply don't think about you--you only think about others. Do nice things for other people or for animals or for the planet. Get out of your own mind and just tell your own needs that you aren't ignoring them, just taking a break. Doing nice things for others has a double benefit--it gets you out of yourself and it lets you see that you are far from alone in your suffering.

One other thing that has been mentioned is exercise. Feeling healthy in your body is such a win in itself but an equally important aspect is developing discipline. I have always struggled with discipline--if it didn't come easy to me, I couldn't stick with it. Forcing myself to do strength training at my age got me right out of my comfort zone. I get confidence both from the way I feel and the fact that I am sticking to something that doesn't come easy. (Well, usually sticking to it...8))

I have talked about this before a lot: "Fake it 'til you make it" is something my mother taught me when I was a painfully shy little girl that had to start at a new school about every two years. It totally works. So much of human interaction is perception. Change people's perception and you change their response and that changes you. It almost feels like magic sometimes.

The last thing that I can think of is to follow absolutely every single interest you have--spinning poi, cooking, hiking, painting, music, writing, horseback riding--whatever! Develop your passions--give yourself over to them. Allow yourself to be a beginner without any shame or embarrassment and then build your skills. Finding others at your level to practice your passion with is a great way not to get discouraged. Seeing others vulnerability takes the sting out of your own.

You really are what all those smarmy cliches say you are: you are beautiful because you are you. There is no other and there never will be. Some people spend all their time and energy in looking for the one person in the world who will see them for the person they really are and love them for it. In fact, you already have that person in your life because you are that person.Self acceptance is a process; it doesn't come factory installed. That is why this thread is so great. We can share what we have learned and help each other out. Bottom line is that it comes from doing what you find hard to do, whatever that is.<3
 
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^great helpful post!!
beautiful thread RL I've been ruminating about self-improvement for a while

what helps with my self confidence is when I know that i have worked really hard at something and receive praise for it

having someone tell you your doing a good job is one of the best feelings i can have and reinforces that what I'm doing is on the right track

yoga has also helped me understand myself better and I know if I apply myself and not focus on how much better everyone else is at something then I can keep getting better step by step
 
My confidence comes from knowing that I'm not a failure, considering some the things I've gone through and that I continue with this life. Even though almost every day seems like a struggle I know I can do it, which makes me feel better about myself.
 
Thing is, I've never really liked anybody who's strutting about all cock-sure and acting all hard. All the people I've had as friends have tended to be the sarcastic/witty/clever/sensitive type. I Don't think I could be friends with someone who acts like a WWF wrestler.

I suppose there is a balance somewhere between standing up for yourself and not being an arsehole. I've yet to find it.
 
This is a great idea for a thread... one of the best ways of improving self-confidence (imo) is doing all the things that your mind insists that you will fail in. Even if you try and fail when you realise that it wasn't so bad and you realise that you are a few steps closer to succeeding it's a great feeling. When you eventually succeed you will feel a rush of self-confidence that will make you want to go further, try more challenging things, repeat the process until you realise that really there is no barrier to the things you want to achieve in life (well maybe time). A good way to start is to write down all the negative things about yourself and start working on practical ways to get rid of them (or reframing them in a way that's more realistic).

Meditation and self-reflection is also a good thing if you can find positive ways in which to harness it and work through any of the problems that you may find. An easy way to slowly shift your way of thinking is being aware of the negative voice in your head and replacing whatever it says with a positive or realistic thought pattern.

Realise that suffering is a positivism... that's the only way any of us can improve, evolve... accept it for what it is and work your way through it, work towards the satisfaction of achievement and when it inevitably fades begin the process all over again.

The Laughing Heart

your life is your life
don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission.
be on the watch.
there are ways out.
there is a light somewhere.
it may not be much light but
it beats the darkness.
be on the watch.
the gods will offer you chances.
know them.
take them.
you can’t beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.
your life is your life.
know it while you have it.
you are marvelous
the gods wait to delight
in you.

Edit: Also be weary of judging yourself on things that you have no control over... don't allow the judgement of others to negatively impact the way in which you see yourself. You are not the labels that people give you, you are not what people think you are, take any criticism into account and reframe it as a goal towards self-improvement. Strive to be better than you were before, don't judge the things you do against the achievements of others, you aren't competing with anybody.

You are a representation of how you believe life should be led, become the person you would admire most, live the version of life that you've always wished you could, it's possible... never give in, ever.

Edit 2: Haha I keep remembering things to put in... be careful when you make judgements about others, they are a representation of your own insecurities, your own fears and your own bias. The judgements they make about you are the same. Accept people and the things they do for what they are, don't try to force them to change but try to understand why they do the things they do.

Edit 3: One thing I disagree with is the thread title... self-confidence can't be found nor can happiness, these are not goals in themselves. They are a by product of the things that you choose, the things that you do... you are not a failure, that is too absolute, that implies that it's impossible to change which is false.
 
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As you might tell, it's a slow day at work so I'm hitting my favourite site! Great thread btw. For me, self confidence and self worth came through learning how to thai box. The discipline and fitness made me feel good. Also I threw myself into academic work, nothing better for your self esteem then getting a good grade for a piece of work (I know a little someone on this site who just had that sort of good news and it has cheered her up no end). I also used to volunteer quite a bit, giving people debt advice and immigration advice (part of my pro bono work as a lawyer). These things really helped me and I thoroughly recommend it to others.
 
I work my ass off. That gives me self confidence. Doing a good job too. Not just the bare minimum
 
I've been clean for 9+ months now, and have been mopey the whole time, struggled with most of what OP has stated. Gotten very existential about everything. Alternated between being very depressed and introverted and forcing myself out and putting on an elaborate act of confidence while actually feeling like i want to die (in order to make myself feel better, be perceived as being ok etc.) Recently i stumbled on something that rocked my world (in a very good way). I finally believe that addiction is a disease. An actual disease. Not a "it mimics a disease, it's a genetic predisposition that manifests itself as a disease...it's LIKE a disease...."

Like ok ok, i give up i surrender, i can't use drugs anymore, but can't i feel NORMAL. I don't need to be HIGH, but i can't feel LOW all the time either. What i found that convinced me of the disease model of addiction (after a year of debating it and kind of siding with saying that it's a choice...BUT it's a tough one....and maybe it's sorta diseasy but.....it's a choice but...)

With a disease you have an organ that has a defect which results in symptoms.

Pancreas --> Impaired ability to produce insulin --> Diabetes
Brain --> Impaired ability to produce Dopamine* --> Addiction

I had been taking some supplements the whole time i was clean, and some on and off, but it was all too complicated to give myself a crash course and there was conflicting info out there etc. I quit smoking cigarettes and learned about L-Tyrosine, which is an amino acid precursor to Dopamine. For me this has been life changing.

To tie in with your original question, what i'm trying to say is that, this 'lack of confidence' is a symptom of low production of dopamine, it has a biological root, and cannot (for extended periods of time) be overcome by external factors like healthy habits, being around good people, not using, volunteering (which can all help for shot periods). I got this concept from a documentary (it's extremely corny, but full of amazing info) called Pleasure Unwoven, which you should check out.

I take 1500mg of L-Tyrosine 3x a day
100mg coQ10 enzyme (which enhances absorption of the amino acids/nutrients)
2 Fish oil capsules
B-complex vitamin
Just started 600mg Alpha GPC (precursor to Acetylcholine, another important neurotransmitter)
Exercise 3-4x per week

...and i'm feeling like a new man. I wouldn't say that this regimen has 'given me confidence' so much as...allowed me to almost totally quiet the 'crippling self doubt' portion of my brain, which has the effect of making me feel more confident.


I know that i felt kinda messed up and not normal before i ever touched drugs, and had to do tons of stupid shit to get a rush to make me feel good, which also helps me believe the story of addiction being a disease even though i was really on fence about that for a long time.


*maybe other neurotransmitters too. This is not a one size fits all just do this and you'll be OK, you'll have a unique body chemistry from mine, different needs which may take time to tweak, figure out.
 
Here is a direct quote from my last performance review.

"Greatest need for improvement is self-confidence. Plagued with self-doubt. Has demonstrated ability to do the work."

This from a man who worked with me a few hours a week for a month. If I didn't have it before, I definitely feel like I have no self confidence now.

What a jerk, really. He isn't a physician or a psychiatrist, he is a pharmacist. How dare he diagnose me thusly???
 
I've been clean for 9+ months now, and have been mopey the whole time, struggled with most of what OP has stated. Gotten very existential about everything. Alternated between being very depressed and introverted and forcing myself out and putting on an elaborate act of confidence while actually feeling like i want to die (in order to make myself feel better, be perceived as being ok etc.) Recently i stumbled on something that rocked my world (in a very good way). I finally believe that addiction is a disease. An actual disease. Not a "it mimics a disease, it's a genetic predisposition that manifests itself as a disease...it's LIKE a disease...."

Like ok ok, i give up i surrender, i can't use drugs anymore, but can't i feel NORMAL. I don't need to be HIGH, but i can't feel LOW all the time either. What i found that convinced me of the disease model of addiction (after a year of debating it and kind of siding with saying that it's a choice...BUT it's a tough one....and maybe it's sorta diseasy but.....it's a choice but...)

With a disease you have an organ that has a defect which results in symptoms.

Pancreas --> Impaired ability to produce insulin --> Diabetes
Brain --> Impaired ability to produce Dopamine* --> Addiction

I had been taking some supplements the whole time i was clean, and some on and off, but it was all too complicated to give myself a crash course and there was conflicting info out there etc. I quit smoking cigarettes and learned about L-Tyrosine, which is an amino acid precursor to Dopamine. For me this has been life changing.

To tie in with your original question, what i'm trying to say is that, this 'lack of confidence' is a symptom of low production of dopamine, it has a biological root, and cannot (for extended periods of time) be overcome by external factors like healthy habits, being around good people, not using, volunteering (which can all help for shot periods). I got this concept from a documentary (it's extremely corny, but full of amazing info) called Pleasure Unwoven, which you should check out.

I take 1500mg of L-Tyrosine 3x a day
100mg coQ10 enzyme (which enhances absorption of the amino acids/nutrients)
2 Fish oil capsules
B-complex vitamin
Just started 600mg Alpha GPC (precursor to Acetylcholine, another important neurotransmitter)
Exercise 3-4x per week

...and i'm feeling like a new man. I wouldn't say that this regimen has 'given me confidence' so much as...allowed me to almost totally quiet the 'crippling self doubt' portion of my brain, which has the effect of making me feel more confident.


I know that i felt kinda messed up and not normal before i ever touched drugs, and had to do tons of stupid shit to get a rush to make me feel good, which also helps me believe the story of addiction being a disease even though i was really on fence about that for a long time.


*maybe other neurotransmitters too. This is not a one size fits all just do this and you'll be OK, you'll have a unique body chemistry from mine, different needs which may take time to tweak, figure out.

I completely agree with you. Because this imbalance is in the brain, it coexists with all sorts of other psychological factors and that can make things confusing. Naturopathic medicine recognizes this far more than traditional western medicine does.

The "crippling self-doubt" that you describe is something that both of my family members with addictions struggled with pre-drugs and post drugs it was what threatened sobriety. Quieting that voice is exactly what the journey is all about. Mindfulness has done this the best for me. The science is out there that it actually changes your physical brain (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/618546/Neuroscience-of-Mindfulness-Meditation). I also used to see a huge difference when my son would take the amounts of coQ10 and fish oil that he was prescribed. Thanks for the helpful post.<3
 
Oh man, RL, where indeed. I'm someone who always took what little confidence I had in myself from others, me being absolutely certain at 8, 11, 13, 16, 18 that whatever others seemed to think of me academically, a poor single-parent working-class kid from the council estate serving the dying local pit's working families as never gonna quite cut it among my assumed to be wealthy, middle-class, oxbridge aspiring peers at the minor public school I won an assisted place to, always feeling a fraud somehow about any declared genius just cos I knew more words and how to use them than most kids my age, or even twice my age and some point they'll find that out and it will all suddenly end in tears was my mindset. Not trying hard enough expecting to fail anyways always my downfall even where effort demonstrated aptitude, attitude bringing about the very circumstances I predicted for myself when they expelled me, or I failed my mocks, or didn't go in to complete the last exams even with 12months of Adult Ed. behind me cos of apathy not getting the basic requirements signed off to even enter, same pattern of self-fulfilling prophecy-making all my childhood and adult life. No surprise why first E, and then Heroin was so attractive to me, huh?

Where do I find my confidence these days? In small successes, little victories. Christ, 6 months ago I didn't even have my own bank account, my wages going to my ex's a/c so she could do all the budgetting and contingency planning that kept the roof over our heads and the wolves from the door and got us 3 or 4 holidays a year down Devon at her folks caravan. Being responsible for myself completely at last at the ripe old age of 43 is a novel experience and one I was initially daunted by, why I stayed in the relationship so long in part no question. Turns out I'm actually ok at it when I face stuff head on and get a bit pro-active for once. Just keeping the bills paid by direct debits seems like a series of significant little victories, makes me wonder what else I might be equally capable of with a little application, and musy really work harder to explore that more and make something with the opportunities I have left career-wise.

Being liked and occasionally respected for the aspects of my personality I sometimes choose to reveal to others online is something else I find really self-affirming. I know some of those I've come to know elsewhere really value me as a friend and even those I don't always get on with will sometimes show their grudging appreciation. Sounds really trivial that those I've got to know online ( though more importantly IRL too because of that, nearly all my current friends are from one site of a certain time in its life ) should be so crucial to my self-image but knowing I'm loved enough that even my more idiotic and arrogant shortcomings make no difference to anyone's esteem, except perhaps to feed into it still further at times.

Feeling like I've given something constructive and / or empowering or just simply comforting to others, even where that might have cost me little more than a smidgin of applied empathy and a few carefully considered moments' thought before offering how best I might be of some service I'm finding very rewarding. I've thought for a long time I wanted to get into drug policy / drug counselling / prosocial lines of work for a while, but looking more actively at options now I'm priced out even of an O.U. degree and couldn't afford the 6 year commitment with the time remaining to me anyways. Oddly my probation officer mum ( just retired ) has been telling me to gp for probabtion for years, computerised career report I got at 15 in one of the first such attempts by the newly IT enabled careers advisors picking that one out, top pick of 4 or 5 possible futures. Dismissed it as nuts, largely down to my mum's tales of her role, responsibilities and preicaments, convinced I'd be either crap at it, or it wasn't for me. Always last to know what other people seem to instinctively know about me quite often, slow learner, takes me a while even when I'm aiming for somewhere concrete.

All in all I like myself a lot better these days than I did. Still drive myself nuts beating myself up with negative self-talk but less of that at least lately, not quite so full on since I quit drinking, and I'm not perfect by any stretch, but mostly I like what I see more. Think I'm a decent fucking human being who does care about my friends and loved ones even if it sometimes could seem otherwise with me being a little too detached, reserved and non-committally procrastinating, sometimes mostly for the sake of a quiet life sometimes.
 
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what helps with my self confidence is when I know that i have worked really hard at something and receive praise for it

having someone tell you your doing a good job is one of the best feelings i can have and reinforces that what I'm doing is on the right track

I have a bit of a problem with this. I'm not sure why but maybe it stems from arrogance on my behalf. For instance if a boss at work said "good job" I would shrug it off and think who the hell are you to tell me that I'm good. Arrogant behaviour.

If a loved one complemented me on some DIY, say, then it would be a different matter. Maybe it's a really bad character trait on my behalf to be aloof and arrogant.
 
I work my ass off. That gives me self confidence. Doing a good job too. Not just the bare minimum

^^this.
most of my self-confidence definitely comes from being enthusiastic about w/e it is i'm doing.
i work until i get it right..which gives me something to feel confident in, always.
lots of times..it's the only thing.

making someone laugh always works for me, too.
seeing laughter is amazing to me..
watching their worries disappear for a moment..

it's a little victory each time. :)
 
Im 9 months and 1 week clean and im doing pretty well with self worth, confidence, and self esteem. Regular exercise, eating properly, and supplements improve my mental and physical health. Looking better physically boosts me up even more. Service work and step work in 12 step programs helps quite a bit too. And of course popping in on BL helps out too :)
 
^^this.
most of my self-confidence definitely comes from being enthusiastic about w/e it is i'm doing.
i work until i get it right..which gives me something to feel confident in, always.
lots of times..it's the only thing.

making someone laugh always works for me, too.
seeing laughter is amazing to me..
watching their worries disappear for a moment..

it's a little victory each time. :)
I agree with you. :)
 
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