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Where do you believe we go after death?

You're assuming consciousness lives on as human in the afterlife. I am claiming afterlife is bigger than human.
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Then it's not "your consciousness" anymore, is it?
Can you read?
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Evidently.

Two current afterlife threads merged. Chronology may have been disrupted, but think of the richness added to the discussion!
 
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last night i had another one of my many experiences that i felt myself slip into the void, and have the thought that conciousness is merely just how you feel the void, it is the most base of all conciousness, and it expands like a fractal of infinitely varied sequences, so we might be oscillating between elements of it all of the time, just too quick for most people to notice. isnt it strange how you can feel the conciousness of anything if you allow yourself too, and melt into it, thats my theory. but ive also noticed that my parents and siblings are repeating the patterns that i act in nearly exactly just with different ways, maybe we are everyone, but my ego is most strongly connected to the body i am in, and when i die or truly lose my ego then i will change? i know thats a lot of nonsense, but i feel like for now thats as sensible as my idea is going to get
 
your soul is a seed

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I personally believe your soul (the make up of your all your chakras as one) is just temporary stationed in your body to grow. I believe in eternity, so when your body dies (goes into the ground and gives back to the earth. flowers, grass, trees grow from the ground. your body decaying in the ground is playing part in the growth of the earth forever) your soul pakes its self up (starting with the bass chakra, closing going into the chakra ahead of it, closing and repeating all the way up to the third eye, the third eye opens and goes into the head chakra. all in which will leave the body through the top of the head.) and planting its self somewhere else in the universe to grow and this goes on forever. Therefore i personally believe that your soul will forever live on, and your body does eventually die but still helps the earths cycle of life by making the soil rich from decay causing things to grow and give off energy to the world.
 
I can believe in reincarnation, as we popped out of nothing to become a body, why cant that happen again?
Sure maybe there wont be any trace of my ego-self there after, but the feeling of here-and-now, or of the present moment, will last on and on.
 
Quote from the movie K-Pax,

"I wanna tell you something Mark, something you do not yet know, that we K-PAXians have been around long enough to have discovered. The universe will expand, then it will collapse back on itself, then will expand again. It will repeat this process forever. What you don't you know is that when the universe expands again, everything will be as it is now. Whatever mistakes you make this time around, you will live through on your next pass. Every mistake you make, you will live through again, & again, forever. So my advice to you is to get it right this time around. Because this time is all you have."
 
I disagree. If it's not my consciousness, then I am not in the afterlife. I know that something will be conscious after I die; there are other people who will persist. If my consciousness ceases to exist, then so do I. Your condescending rudeness does not help you make your point more effectively.
 
highhooked said:
Ive never really looked through this section of bluelight but all the topics being discussed here are very interesting.

I just wish i knew more about philosophy and spirituality to discuss with you all.
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Hey, I really liked this book, Sophie's World. It provides an overview of western philosophy.

I also took a couple of introductory philosophy courses in my first years of uni, that I thoroughly enjoyed.
 
i wonder if we experience our life and use our imagination to interact with our own memories in the few moments before death? you know, the whole life flash before your eyes thing. also a lot of near death experiences are really close to peoples experiences on dmt, and on that seconds can seem like days, not to mention the brain is thought to produce it in large amounts before death
 
You wake up in a little box full of green goo and you, you think, wow that's was one wicked ride, can't wait till my next one. Continuing to dream of life, learning valuable lessons to put them into play in our 'real life'
 
I am an atheist so I believe we go nowhere, death is the end of consciousness.
Anything other than that is speculation.

Though I do not find this bleak, I find the fact that the atoms in my body that were forged in stars will go on to form other things after I die extremely mindblowing. It is statistically probable that my atoms will go on to be part of many many other life forms. Reincarnation is fact... it's just that you dont get to take any part of your consciousness with you, just your protons, neutrons and electrons.
 
So far my parents have raised me under a "Christian" philosophy (or theology I guess). I do lean more toward this way but I like to be open minded, and have nothing against other religions or worldviews. (Not very christian of me, I think). Anyways, my parents believe that anyone who believes in going anywhere other than heaven or hell after death is simply deluding themselves into that belief. I have grown up under these teachings, so I have a fear of burning in hell ingrained into my conscious. My question to those of you who weren't brought up this way or don't believe this is.. Has the fear of burning in hell EVER crossed your mind? You would have to be very honest answering that... But yeah. That's my somewhat depressing upbringing. 8)
 
i am well past the stage in my young life where i pondered this sort of thing.
it all amounts to mental squandering of one's time.
we exist because 2 ppl mated successfully.
there is no empirical evidence that supports these superstious, mystical, magical constructs that man has made up. thus, it is hogwash.

when living things come to the end of their life, they simply compose and are then available to be rearranged into some other things. homo sapiens is no different than a fucking pinto bean in that.
 
Chadanseba said:
So far my parents have raised me under a "Christian" philosophy (or theology I guess). I do lean more toward this way but I like to be open minded, and have nothing against other religions or worldviews. (Not very christian of me, I think). Anyways, my parents believe that anyone who believes in going anywhere other than heaven or hell after death is simply deluding themselves into that belief. I have grown up under these teachings, so I have a fear of burning in hell ingrained into my conscious. My question to those of you who weren't brought up this way or don't believe this is.. Has the fear of burning in hell EVER crossed your mind? You would have to be very honest answering that... But yeah. That's my somewhat depressing upbringing. 8)
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I was raised Roman Catholic, so I was very afraid of hell until right around the time I hit puberty, and talked to the atheist side of my family more. Anyway, I began to see hell as simply a persuasive tool that Christians use for proselytization. If they aren't allowed to torture a non-believer into believing, they will use guilt, shame, and fear of the unknown for conversion (well, in the past, donations and indulgences were the primary motivators to spread the faith, not some altruistic idea of "saving souls"). Now that I've distanced myself from the concept of hell, I find it very childish to the point of insulting, and paradoxical in the belief that an all powerful, all knowing and all loving god would be childish and jealous enough to banish those that do not recognize him to hell (I guess god works in mysterious ways, huh? Psht... typical Christian "logic"). Hell is purely a human concept and doesn't even have basis in the New Testament. Therefore, it is laughable to be afraid of, imo. Should you be afraid of the boogeyman that gouges out your eyes while raping you the moment before death? No.
 
I don't think about it too much anymore. It always led me back to the same conclusion, i.e., I don't know, nobody else knows, and anyone who says they know is fulla crap. Some hypotheses seem more probable than others, but after chasing it around the mulberry bush for the umpteenth time, and getting nothing but dizzy, I figure I'll find out the same way everyone else does.
 
Either into Oblivion, or a DMT trip that is eternal, the brain sometimes remains active 5 to 12 mins after death during this duration on this existence. However time is of no essence in a High dosed DMT trip! Can't wait to find out! :-)
 
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