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When should I take protein before or after a work out
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Matsuo Munefusa.
Bluelighter
taking it before can elevate your BCAAs in bloodstream which can spare muscle.
Taking after can elevate protein synth and lead to muscle-building.
Taking after can elevate protein synth and lead to muscle-building.
sorebuttcheeks
Greenlighter
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You mainly want to have a high daily protein intake. To do that you will need to eat high protein foods and supplements all throughout the day. If you are only taking a supplement once per day, I recommend taking it less than 30 minutes post-workout.
Teonanactylln'
Bluelighter
Agreed.
some knowledge I've gleaned:
Whey is the most absorbable, but unless you've got a timed -release version, your body can only really use 21 gms/serving - most other supplemental proteins absorb even less than that. If you're using any more than that you're wasting $, and the extra is literally going into the shitter. This amount may be increased by taking supplemental protease (found in most digestive enzyme complexes,) but I haven't read any viable documentation to back this up... it makes logical sense though.
Beyond that, the individual aminos have more of an effect while taken on an empty stomach, and tend to have less effect over a couple weeks of continued use, so unless you're targeting a specific condition, consume full proteins on an empty stomach, and avoid massive doses of things like L-Carnatine, L-Glutamine, etc that are often marketed individually for workout supplementation.
Also, if you have Herpes, be very careful about consuming more Arginine than Lysine, as this tends to create flare-ups. If your supplementation has more Arginine than Lysine, make sure you load up on extra lysine. This will help anyone boost their immune system function as well.
drugssexandmusic
Bluelighter
1 when you get up with first meal, 1 after lifting weights and one before you go to bed.
Don't forget to drink lots of water because its hard on your kidneys, esp if you are taking other drugs yo.
Don't forget to drink lots of water because its hard on your kidneys, esp if you are taking other drugs yo.
Your body can become tolerant to amino dosages? More to worry about!
I knew 60g of protein was probably wasteful but I figured more was better than not enough. I also thought that spiking insulin post-workout (via sugar, dex, malto, etc) made for a higher absorption rate. What's your grasp on this?
Teonanactylln'
Bluelighter
honestly, I'm not sure...because protein is converted into glucose upon demand, adding a sugar source would probably help with protein retention for building muscle mass. I'd try to use dextrose, as it's one of the easier sugars for your body to utilize the glucose from, but supplementation with protease is probably the most innocuous yet helpful things you could do. Enzymedica is by far the best enzyme-specific company on the market, and their product virastop not only is made completely from protease, but its formula is great for boosting immune system function
also, if you're taking large amounts of proteins, (and calcium, calcium pyruvate, or other highly alkaline supplements, and/or creatine) plus taxing your kidneys with 'roids, make sure you're both hydrating (to the brink of excess) and adding acidic foods to your diet. a highly alkaline environment (often created by a high protein diet) in your body combined with taxing your kidneys can lead to the development of kidney stones, and take it from me you don't want that.
I'm not sure how old you are, but it's a myth that these are only developed in older people. I had them when I was 19, and once you get them, your body develops them more easily in the future.
also, if you're taking large amounts of proteins, (and calcium, calcium pyruvate, or other highly alkaline supplements, and/or creatine) plus taxing your kidneys with 'roids, make sure you're both hydrating (to the brink of excess) and adding acidic foods to your diet. a highly alkaline environment (often created by a high protein diet) in your body combined with taxing your kidneys can lead to the development of kidney stones, and take it from me you don't want that.
I'm not sure how old you are, but it's a myth that these are only developed in older people. I had them when I was 19, and once you get them, your body develops them more easily in the future.
^^This. Your body needs sugar to replenish glycogen stores. I wrote a reasearch paper last year on it, maybe i can dig it up in a little big. The protein will take a while to be converted into usable energy, so you want at least 25g of protein as well as 20ish+ grams of carbs in your post workout shake. The sugar also causes an insulin surge which will shuttle nutrients (protein/water) into your muscle cells after a workout. I always see people mad cuz they dont make gains and none of them ever implement sugar in the post workout shake.
I've never had the balls (or information) to start any drug program. I may check this stuff out, though. I vaguely remember reading that oral enzymes don't even work because they can't pass via the liver. Then again, I don't remember anything else about the article. It may have been focusing on one thing.
I've put raw sugar in my drink but lately I just drink gaterade during my workout and down a protein shake when finished. The new Gaterade forumula contains sucrose-dextrose instead of high fructose. BTW who needs NO-Xplode when you can drink Gaterade? The simple sugar acts as a pump inducer. (depending on your "carb tolerance")
NO explode has arginine which is a vasodilator and then like caffeine and a bunch of other shit.. personally i just bought the ingredients i deemed necessary for a pre-workout formula in bulk and made my own pre-workout formula for much cheaper and w.o caffeine/stimulants unless i want. The downside to this is that it taste like shit compared to no explode. I have to gag it down. And it'd be way to much to cap up to be worth my time. I'd throw some sugar in with your protein, or at least try and use milk or something with carbs to mix in it. You need those carbs after a good w.o
I know one knowledgable guy who eats his six jelly beans as soon as he's finished his workout then consumes his protein shake. Just to be 100% clear you're saying that me and everyone else should be doing this too? (if their shake doesn't have carbs already in it anyway)
Titus
Bluelighter
x2
Plus if ur trying to grow muscle u should be taking in 1.5-2x your weight in grams of protein per day. It's the food for the muscles and the main reason so many guys at the gym never get bigger, they don't know how to feed properly to grow. Diet is VERY significant.
And depending on your size, bf, weight, and goals you might want to consider a weight gainer (with very LOW sugar content) rather than straight up protein for shakes.
Matsuo Munefusa.
Bluelighter
good advice
you can make your own weightgainers...
mix liquid egg whites, whey iso, sweet potatoes, banana, honey, bee pollen. Very delicious and whole foods.
slowpoke1967
Bluelighter
YUP both is what i say .
I used to use the protene drinks but switched to pure creatine.
And with that you take it before and afer for the first while.
My reg. would have me take 1 teaspoon before my workout the 4 more after (called loading up)
5 teaspoons a day for like the first week then just the one after the loading period is over.
So then i would take one before about an hour before then another rite after my workout.
I know i said one which i did for years but was then told by a friend in the biz that taking the one an hour before would help me push more wieght during the workout,then the other one after to help out the capilaries.
It worked for me i was ripped.
Just passin on my personal opinion of what i did and it worked better than any protiene drink like say massup 4000 etc.
dirtyoldman
Bluelighter
YES
before, after, at night, in the morning....
go for AT LEAST 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight a day every day
(and get 8 hours sleep)
