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When do you become a addict? Where do YOU draw the line?

One thing I've noticed:

You can have problems with a particular drug, but not be addicted to it

AND

You can be addicted to a particular drug, but not have problems

SO

What's more important; working out if you are an addict, or working out if you have a problem?
 
Some drugs carry a physical risk, but I feel the mind can overcome such things, for example I've been smoking (cigs) for like 1 1/4 years and I'm not addicted yet within a month of doing ritalin I was addicted and stopped myself. Generally drug addiction is psychological in my opinion though mostly, maybe with some physical dependency factor. You should draw the line not on how much you spend on something, how often you do it (for example, you can do cocaine or drink or w/e oh say 5 days a week and not be addicted or you can drink a few glasses of wine one day a week and be an alcoholic like my mom), but why you do it. If you're doing it for any reason besides that the fact that it's fun to do (generally this is escaping reality due to some bad fact of life that people can't handle, such as some of my ex-friends) basically.
 
I've always thought the line between user and addict is extremely small. I suppose, were I to be taking a physically addictive substance, that i would begin to become concerned when 1 or more of the following occured:

*I began to steal money from family/friends to buy drugs.
*Use of said drugs started to cause noticable marks on my body(In the case of herion use - collapsed veins, cocaine use - holes in my nose, crack use - missing/rotted teeth, ect.).
*Someone who i love and who loves me came and talked to about my drug use.(I don't mean a simple talk about smoking weed, which has heppened to me before, I mean a serious intervention).
*I was arrested multiple times for possestion of said drug(s), and started to become well known by the local police as an addict.(Trust me, there's without a doubt a few of these in our city/town).
Of course, these are just a few examples. There are many other things, some of which I'm currently not even aware of, that would lead me to believe that I was an addict.
 
What makes an "addict"?

In all honestly...

This is a very subjective question!

BUT what factor do you feel contributes the MOST to soemone getting addicted?

Current life circumstances, genetic makeup, situation at the time, peer pressure, mind set, OR just the powerful intensity of the drug?

it just doesn't seem fair to me that so many judge "drugs" by saying you'll get hooked right off the bat....

sounds like TOTAL BS to me!
 
it has NOTHING to do with the drug (a fucking innantimate object of sorts)
some people just have a hard time letting go.
however you have to DIFFERENTIATE dependence from addiction and Almost virtualy EVERY person who uses opiates/benzodiazepines/ssris etc on a dailey basis...............WILL gain a dependence but this in no way means they are addicted.
addicted means that the person is obssessing over a particular drug of choice and cant let it go even though its causing severe distress to their life
 
rhinorider said:
In all honestly...

This is a very subjective question!

BUT what factor do you feel contributes the MOST to soemone getting addicted?

Current life circumstances, genetic makeup, situation at the time, peer pressure, mind set, OR just the powerful intensity of the drug?

it just doesn't seem fair to me that so many judge "drugs" by saying you'll get hooked right off the bat....

sounds like TOTAL BS to me!
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Answer for me would be E, all of the above.

Its going to differ from person to person as well.
I know that for me personally I think I started using heroin IV because my g/f dumped me. Then a few days later we got back together. She left the country for a while, and I only used iv smack here and there until she returned. Then as time went on I just loved the feeling it gave me, not to mention that heroin for me is a sexual drug, so that didn't help. She had no knowledge of my use, or rather i made myself believe she didn't. She dumped me eventually, my friends abandoned me, and all I was left with was the heroin.
 
I tend to agree with W.Burroughs on the correct definition of addiction:

The state of being in a person who 1) compulsively seeks and uses a substance regardless of personal, social or economic consequences/cannot stop consuming said substance regardless of efforts to do so

and

2) a change in physiology from consuming said substance over time has changed the biochemistry of the individual; making said substance a metabolic necessity (you need to continue to use the substance to maintain normal body functions).

In this regard the only substances I would call 'Addictive' are opioids and nicotine.

activities and substances are labeled addictive; from chocolate, sex, gambling, Cocaine, Amphetamine, etc. All of which can develop into uncontrollable compulsive behaviors- but there is no metabolic need that develops from too much sex, gambling, coke, speed, etc. This goes for hypnotics and sedatives as well. Rebound symptoms develop when chronic use is stopped; but it still isn't 'withdrawal' in the way opioids or nicotine induce withdrawal syndrome.
 
ofukibenhearB4 said:
it has NOTHING to do with the drug (a fucking innantimate object of sorts)
some people just have a hard time letting go.
however you have to DIFFERENTIATE dependence from addiction and Almost virtualy EVERY person who uses opiates/benzodiazepines/ssris etc on a dailey basis...............WILL gain a dependence but this in no way means they are addicted.
addicted means that the person is obssessing over a particular drug of choice and cant let it go even though its causing severe distress to their life
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I think this is the most correct description of what an addiction is. Just because you are dependant on something does not mean you are addicted. for a long time I thought I was addicted to oxy and meth but Ive recently realized that even though I needed my oxy and used for months straight I was not addicted as I wasnt obsessed with oxy, it was like smoking cigs for me I just did it, I dont believe I am addicted to smoking either. the only thing I think ive ever been addicted to in my whole life is marijuana and I still am to this day. Imay have been addicted to meth at one point ion my life but that slid away pretty easily so maybe not. and addiction is when you want stop no matter how hard you try. An addict is someone who goes to jail for 4 years and the first thing they do when they get out is go get a fix, an addict is the mum who buys beer or drugs instead of their kids lunch or the pregnant woman who smokes crack while she's 8 months pregnant.

I dont believe most of the people who can hold their jobs, dont share needles, have money for other things and other people as well as think about other people other than themselves. I dont believe the people who can ration their gear or lend a friend some gear and not worry about never getting it back are addicts.

Addicts will do everything and anything to get their fix, addict translates to me as 'Slave' If I had to use one word to describe and addict that is what id choose.
 
theres WAY TOO MANY variables on how people get addicted, everyones different, everyones addicted personality has there extents.

1 reason for me, (opiates), i would start taking them b4 having dinner with my family instead of waiting til midnight to play video games...

^it made me in a better mood, more talkative, willing, just happy

2- depression too, for those reasons above

3- avalibility, some people have easy or unlimited access to pills

those are my rreasons
 
Tchort said:
activities and substances are labeled addictive; from chocolate, sex, gambling, Cocaine, Amphetamine, etc. All of which can develop into uncontrollable compulsive behaviors- but there is no metabolic need that develops from too much sex, gambling, coke, speed, etc. This goes for hypnotics and sedatives as well. Rebound symptoms develop when chronic use is stopped; but it still isn't 'withdrawal' in the way opioids or nicotine induce withdrawal syndrome.
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What about seizures that occur from cessation of benzo use?
 
^ I was thinking the same thing along with having DT's from alcohol. I love reading his posts and he has to be one of the best posters that's around nowadays but I disagree with him about nicotine and opiates being the only truly addictive substances. I think it depends on the individual mostly.

Anyone ever enjoy their first cigarette or dip?

I was in love with opiates since I was given IV Demerol when I was still a toddler. My very first memory is of me being high on Demerol.
 
it has everything to do with what drug being used. Because I hate to tell you guys but if you knew anything about drugs the only TRULY addictive drug/drugs in my opinion is opiates/opioids. I mean you could get someone addicted to opiates without them even knowing that their addicted until they stop taking it and go into withdrawals.. i dont know of any other drugs out their that have a lifetime effect on you like opiates do.

Oh yeah i forgot about benzos and alcohol, those two can also have horrible side effects and also can leave u with a life-long struggle for regain of control ... and its funny because the two biggest "DRUGS" that doc's prescribe are benzo's and opiates.

"I said dr. dr. dr.
oh wont you please get mi da nurse
say dr. dr. dr.
oh why does the pain always huurt"
 
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I was psychologically addicted to cocaine for over 4 years and could not stop using no matter how unbearable my life had become. I would get intense cravings accompanied by severe anxiety at the same time every afternoon and I was compelled to get and use more coke.

I know I was'nt physically addicted but the intense anxiety/compulsion was severe after using every day for years.
Oh well, I'm lame.=D
 
Tchort said:
In this regard the only substances I would call 'Addictive' are opioids and nicotine.
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W/D from barbituates and alcohol can be fatal, while withdrawl from nicotine and opiates is, at worst, extremely unpleasant.
 
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