axe battler
Bluelight Crew
Mods if there are more like if baclofen is can you sort it out please?
What's ya fave gabapentinoid?
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axe battler
Bluelight Crew
I've had all but gabapentin but hear gabapentin is nice cos it doesn't fuck you up like pregabs do
Baclofen isn’t a gabapentinoid.
I prefer Pregabalin but gabapentin is good also tbh. Pregabalin takes a long time to kick in and you need an empty stomach for it to work best. Still, it’s good.
The withdrawal is fucking brutal though.
axe battler
Bluelight Crew
Didn't think it was.just couldn't be arsed to check. Any others I've missed tho? I think I prefer phenibut to pregabalin
Love Pregabalin but had a bad time on Baclofen. Really want to try Mirogabalin. Think it’s on prescription in Japan at the moment.
Baclofen is not a gabapentinoid ever. Drugs don’t change classes. It is classed as a skeletal muscle relaxant.Yeah it is, just not at therapeutic doses. You have to take like 3 or 4 times that and it is dose dependent like phenibut. In fact, phenibut and baclofen are virtually identical and are both GABA-B agonists.
I’m not going to argue with you about this.
Find me the information you have that states clearly that baclofen is a gabapentinoid.
You are correct in the fact that Phenibut and Baclofen are similar due to their structure and method of action in regards to the GABA B agonism. That does not mean they are the same at all. Baclofen does not have the affinity for the gamma-hydroxybutyrate receptor for example.
Just because drugs are structurally similar it does not make them the same. Both of those drugs are still being studied because they have interesting mechanisms of action that are still being explored.
https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/is-baclofen-a-gabapentinoid.821042/
It isn't classified as one but it could be one is what I gathered from this
It isn't classified as one but it could be one is what I gathered from this
Where the info proving baclofen is a gabapentinoid?
You say I’m wrong with zero to back you up.
Try harder.
Yeah like I say both drugs are weird and we are still finding out their method of action. Could it be one? Maybe but I haven’t seen it yet. It is very similar but still, not at all the same in many ways.
Phenibut is still a drug that I am studying, it’s incredibly interesting to me.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I've never tried gabapentin or pregabalin, am I missing out?
Phenibut is decent in terms of legal American drugs but it's not good for recreational purposes and the withdrawal is whack
so, I didn't vote :/
Phenibut is decent in terms of legal American drugs but it's not good for recreational purposes and the withdrawal is whack
so, I didn't vote :/
ChemicallyEnhanced
Bluelighter
Never had Phenibut but I prefer Gabapentin to Pregabalin. Gabapentin makes me really relaxed and moderately euphoric (like I'm really relaxed, but I don't get that "I HAVE TO SLEEP" feeling some sedatives give you and I'm just super-content and everything seems lovely).
Pregabalin actually didn't give me euphoria. Very little mentally at all, but it fucked my body up in a bad way. Like I couldn't really walk or control my muscles. I know Pregabalin is pretty popular but it's not for me. Falling all over with very little euphoria is not a fun time for me.
It wasn't just an unlucky one-off bad experience either as I've tried it three times with the same results.
Pregabalin actually didn't give me euphoria. Very little mentally at all, but it fucked my body up in a bad way. Like I couldn't really walk or control my muscles. I know Pregabalin is pretty popular but it's not for me. Falling all over with very little euphoria is not a fun time for me.
It wasn't just an unlucky one-off bad experience either as I've tried it three times with the same results.
That’s all he understands, he understands little else so your first bit of info was a waste of time and will fly straight over his head.
Anyway, there are a few reasons I wouldn’t call it a gabapentinoid.
ChemicallyEnhanced
Bluelighter
Baclofen is not a Gabapentinoid. It's a muscle relaxant and in a completely different family of drugs all together.
I’ve said this but apparently I’m consistently wrong about everything.
ChemicallyEnhanced
Bluelighter
Yeah it is, just not at therapeutic doses. You have to take like 3 or 4 times that and it is dose dependent like phenibut. In fact, phenibut and baclofen are virtually identical and are both GABA-B agonists.
I'd be VERY, VERY careful taking high doses of Baclofen. All of a sudden you cannot stay awake. And I can't stress that strongly enough, No matter how much willpower you have you WILL fall asleep. And it's an incredibly deep sleep. I have had people shaking me roughly and screaming my name in my ear and not woken up. That shit is scary.
ChemicallyEnhanced
Bluelighter
I’ve said this but apparently I’m consistently wrong about everything.
I think he's just trolling you to get a reaction TBH lol.
From what I've seen you're actually obviously a very intelligent and well-informed person.
Man, you’re talking to the same guy who took like 20g of phenibut, passed out and awoke naked on his porch by police and was told he was screaming etc I don’t think he cares. Of course he’s such an compulsive liar that that probably didn’t happen. His “stories” give a false perception on the safety margins of drugs.
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ChemicallyEnhanced
Bluelighter
Ahh, I know the type. I knew this girl that used to claim she drank a gallon of vodka in one night or shot up a gram of morphine.