What would happen if drugs were legalised Part 1. MDMA

[Unlucky]

I know so many people are going to disagree with me on this, but if the harder party drugs like ecstasy and amphetamines were legalized then I truly believe there would be more cases like mine where people would end up disabled with a neurological complications following overdoses.

To get to where I am its just a matter of finding the wrong combination of factors for example after a night out at a rave dancing 8 hours on cocktail of drugs, losing valuable electrolytes only to come home and take more mdma, mda and pure meth without sleep or food and then and engage in a 7 hour sex feast you kinda leave your brain chemical open to all sorts of complications , in my case hyperthermia, hospitalization followed by autonomic damage and a neurological illness. This is likely to happen to anyone now as well but when you legalize something you then have full freedom to abuse that substance to its full extent as much as you like and whenever you like and if like me you have aboslutely no self control to party drugs the outcomes are likely to be devastating. This is just my opinion.

 

[thestudent14]

The environmental factors are something I hadn't even thought of, although if it was legalised I imagine the greens would rise up and get some rule placed in, where we start growing the neccesary tree's here in Aus or something along those lines.

To get to where I am its just a matter of finding the wrong combination of factors for example after a night out at a rave dancing 8 hours on cocktail of drugs, losing valuable electrolytes only to come home and take more mdma, mda and pure meth without sleep or food and then and engage in a 7 hour sex feast you kinda leave your brain chemical open to all sorts of complications , in my case hyperthermia, hospitalization followed by autonomic damage and a neurological illness. This is likely to happen to anyone now as well but when you legalize something you then have full freedom to abuse that substance to its full extent as much as you like and whenever you like and if like me you have aboslutely no self control to party drugs the outcomes are likely to be devastating. This is just my opinion.

I know where you're coming from Unlucky, however I think it would be a very small portion of people who abuse said substances to THAT extent. I love to either go hard or go home, always been my modo and I'll stand by it. But most people have alot more common sense then I do, thats why I've abused my body on alcohol so hard. But most people who love drinking still won't punish their body as much as the few who end up in hospital for it.

However with MDMA people are pretty much guarenteed to have an amazing time. Thats why education would be such a big key if it became legal. People need to be aware of the dangers of abuse, just as they are with alcohol and ciggarettes.

I honestly don't think people give enough credit to the common person here at bluelight.
They may be brainwashed and naive' but with a bit of honest education I don't see overdoses being a HUGE issue.


@internettoughguy
Great post dude, I'd hire you to be in charge of the gradual legalisation.

 

[phase_dancer]

Is there another method of producing MDMA that doesn't involve Safrol?

Yes, there are several possible starting materials but only one other provides a cost efficient synthesis, and that is made from safrole.

However, as I've posted many times already, there is no world shortage of safrole, at least in legit industry.

Japan produces several 1000 metric tons of piperonal/ day (prepared from safrole), which is used in various industries, and to produce piperonyl butoxide. This chemical is used as a synergist with pyrethroid pesticides (synthetic variations of pythethrum). If you think about how much of this chemical is used in agriculture, and the other uses of piperonal, in the flavours and fragrances industry, it's easy to see that a cheap, sustainable source of safrole or a precursor to safrole must exist.

And before anyone asks, piperonyl butoxide can't be used to make MDMA.

 

[Sowle]

Whilst only a small contribution to this discussion, one aspect of legalisation that always makes me think is this: legalisation would obviously cut down/out the black market, which is generally regarded as a positive thing...however the truth of the matter is that the black market keeps many people employed (who potentially dont have the skills/qualifications to otherwise find work)...what would be the consequences of an influx of people needing legit jobs?

I suppose tax collected from the sale of drugs could be pumped into a combination of health/drug education/welfare programs but it would perhaps be getting spread a tad thin.

(That being said i still fully support the legalisation of all drugs)

 

[thestudent14]

Seriously?

The black market keeps many people employed (who potentially dont have the skills/qualifications to otherwise find work)

I whole heartadly would say that EVERY drug dealer could find at least one job if they needed to. If not I'd rather them live off the dole which would potentially have more funds from the black market not sapping the country's economy.

Saying they can't find work is a cop out.

The dole is 463/fortnight

True it's not alot, but if you need to survive until you find work it'll get you there.
If they don't have the qualifications, GET THEM start an apprenticeship, not smart enough to do an apprenticeship do an easier apprenticeship. Not smart enough for that do manual labour or factory work.

I see what your saying... but in my view it's simply not a good point.

 

[skatkid]

they could use their dealing skills in sales