Stimulants What to do...?

[ZonedOut]

Basically i went up the amphetamine ladder from snorting ritalins in the bathroom at highschool to stealing my cousins dex, long story short I was into meth for a 1-2 month period it never got extremely bad but It was pretty much the only thing i looked forward to. With people noticing and stuff i got off of it,

I will tell you that i have a perscription for dexedrine, i was diagnosed with "ADHD" but to me it is more like ever since i had a strong experience with DOB + E Pills + Powerful weed, I have nver been the same, I can't focus , mad derealization/dp. So that is why I said i have adhd, and i was suprised when the doctor gave me Dexedrine. It started at one and now somehow i get 9 a day, ( 2 seperate doses 10mg Spansules ),

I have a lot of stresses in my life and due to all this hyperstimulation, i am really looking for more out of life than the average person and have commited myself to mainly Internet Marketing with hopes of growing some decent capital and getting into some real business, the downside is though, IT IS INCREDIBLY BORING.. and if i don't take my dex i feel like doing nothing at all! Even a while ago i wasn't looking for focus out of my medication just a euphoric uppity high and it ended up to me blowing 400 nonometh . I don't wanna go back there, but I really just don't know what to do, should i stick to taking a lower dose of dex to remind myself it is for adhd purposes and not a "high" .. Should i switch to Straterra? Concerta/ritalin already a big no ( deathly zombie feeling ) .

The main reason this is so bad is because I don't eat enough, vasoconstriction with lack of movement, and inevitable moments of zoned out bad posture, the fact I don't even bother to socialize because all my friends smoke weed and I am all for being at top-brain-functioing conditions. The worst part is probably the anhendonia though, i feel if i didn't have dexedrine I probably would be in a rehab center or sit in my bed eating ice cream and playing video games all day..

For the record im on .5kpin Morning and Evening dose, and 75mg seroquel at night, Any suggestions??

 

[ZonedOut]

sorry if this should be in ze dark side.. im new 8(

 

[Znegative]

Well I can't really tell if you're trying to get off this shit or find something better, but perhaps lowering your dose for a while might be a good idea, or just quitting for a few days so your tolerance goes down. I know how it is with Stimson, continued daily use at high dosages loses its magic eventually, and you're not getting high your just avoiding crashing. Give yourself a few days break I think, so that you can get some dopamine back. If you do this you'll feel really depressed for a while, but then you can get back on the amphetamines and try to use them in a more wise way that works for you

 

[sekio]

You need to get outside more. Find a hobby or something that makes you happy that isn't drugs. It can be music, sports, electronics, even video games... but it sounds like you're just bored and stuck in a rut and are using amphetamine to compensate.

The seroquel and Klonopin are likely maksing even more of the side-effects, it sounds to me that you need to detox, feel like utter shit for 2 weeks, and then work on trying a minimal dose of amphetamines. Otherwise you're likely to relapse right back into using huge amounts of amps to make life feel interesting.

 

[Vaya]

Taking drug holidays (even as little as two days, i.e. a weekend) from the stimulants will begin to reduce tolerance and dependence on them. Most likely your post-synaptic DA receptors are down-regulated from overuse and you need to give them ample time to recover before you will experience intrinsic motivation again and increased benefits from stimulant therapy.

Just some food (instead of amps) for thought.

~ vaya

 

[mkhughes]

I posted this in another thread, you may take some comfort in it. Life lacks luster, to say the least, without speed. I have trouble anymore remembering how i did things like snowboard or boring shit like movies or anything without it. It's a scourge. for sure. And, I, like you, avoid weed and alcohol...anything that interferes with my brain energy.....



I'm new and lame for getting in here so late in my "game" and all that . Also. for a well-read person, I'm not nearly as astute about what many may dismiss as the minutia of the meds: pharmaceutical half-life's, variations in chemical structures, potentiators, binders, agonists, fillers etc. etc. This is largely because I have tried diligently to ignore the monkey on my back that is adderall. It's been there since I was first prescribed it 6 years ago. I can't quite say it has come to dictate all aspects of my life. But, particularly since my tolerance began to steadily increase within the first two years of taking it, it has become nearly impossible (and granted, I'm weak, I like to feel good) to walk away from. In short, I went to taking 45 mg IR per day, and did so happily until, oh, say, I had some extra laundry to do. Or homework to help with. Over time it graduated to "well, i don't want to be a bitch around my loved ones and friends, so let me take a pill". Bottom line: I am 5ft9, naturally very thin (130lbs). My highest consistent dose (IOW not when I tweaked for 3 days straight to decorate the house for Christmas...yeesh) leveled at around 120mg IR a day. This was my regular script of 45mg (which my dr. would not raise) plus whatever I could barter or buy from others to keep my dose up. This dose calmed me, evened my temperament, alleviated depression I'd suffered since a child, gave me energy, and helped me FINISH THINGS. Family didn't agree, however, and after one prolonged bender of about 4 days getting ready to move out of my house, they scooped me off to rehab this past March. Well, you know, rehabs only as effective as you will let it be. Since then, I have begun taking Vyvanse 70 mg. I fall asleep on it regularly. Months of no amphetamines only notched down my tolerance for a day or two when I first picked up the Vyvanse. Of course, I've managed, for now, to supplement the Vyvanse with 2 30 mg IR's throughout the day. I am discouraged, no doubt. I do not like being ruled by something. But for me, amphetamines were the perfect storm. When I don't have them, I cannot find the motivation and energy to function, in spite of my other psychiatric meds.

Point in all this, is that nothing I've tried: abstinence, supplements, DXM, etc, etc, has achieved the decresed tolerance, or "functional euphoria" about my life that I experienced in the first year. Even the jacked up dose I grew to take (and my current self-prescribed combo of vyvanse and adderall IR) had/has relatively lackluster impact on my functioning. There's a sadness in it, as I've talked to other's and read stories of how for some people there's a perpetual disgust with oneself for every having tried them in the first place. Now, many of you will laugh and think I should just chill and move on. Ship sailed. But for me and some others, I suppose Amphetamines were the "drug of choice". I've noticed some people don't take stimulant dependence to be as grave of a circumstance as that of opiates. Physically speaking, obviously they doo not share the devastating withdraws. But my psychological withdraws, my lethargy, and depression, and inattention...that all went away once I found my elusive therapeutic dose....are almost disabling without this medicine. It sucks.

Thanks for letting me postramble...interested in hearing if anyone else has shared a similar story to mine, as far as adderall/amph.s serving as their magic pill, and any tolerance increases that always return, etc. I'd appreciate it. peace

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[ZonedOut]

ugh.. friend triggerd the worse drugs, i only used orally though (meth) he is straight fucked on it, and i dont want this or even the dex, its too bad for my health, thankfully some other things in life should be working out good, and i plan to get off most if not all meds, I am not looking forward to the withdrawals of dexedrine ... i will hopefully continue to progress in other areas.. but I can't seem to commit myself to something like working out or guitar.. its kind of side i know what you speak too well mkhughes except its always been dexedrine, the psychological part is just terrible. I wish i was never exposed to any of ths things.

its great to know some of you responded idk wtf ive been doing the past bit

 

[Southern Devil]

The main reason this is so bad is because I don't eat enough, vasoconstriction with lack of movement, and inevitable moments of zoned out bad posture.

I have the same problem. Fruit, like oranges or bananas, have a lot of vitamins and are easy to eat. They will make you feel better.

The best advice I could give you would be to have a big meal before you start using.

Also get a pillow to lean back on when you are in a bad posture.

Brush teeth alot, and drink a lot of water, no soda.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

I have had to deal with withdrawals of long term amp use for a year now two weeks out of the month because doctors are so fucking strict. They look at it as if it were meth and forget the tolerance part and Im So Fucking Siickk of dealing with it.

 

[DexterMeth]

I have the same problem. Fruit, like oranges or bananas, have a lot of vitamins and are easy to eat. They will make you feel better.

The best advice I could give you would be to have a big meal before you start using.

Also get a pillow to lean back on when you are in a bad posture.

Brush teeth alot, and drink a lot of water, no soda.

Smoothies, bomb your food down with water, learn how to eat, or stop using.