What likely caused my girlfriends death

[smokeymcpot42088]

They will easily be able to determine what drugs are in her system with a toxicology report.

 

[daddysgone]

Thanks to every one for your input it has been helpful and also for your kind words its nice to hear people offer there condolences when they are complete strangers, as appossed to ppl in her family who have done nothing less then call me a murderer. As far as the police go they didn't seem to have any problem w/ my story and I haven't heard from them since. I have heard that the snoring issue could be indicitive of some issue called agonal respiration... but I don't know from what I have researched about it it seems like it is more a last few breaths type of thing. I am guessing it was some thing like what Izzy described I just wish that could be explained to her parents. Oh yea and one more thing I forgot to mention we have a kid together and they ( her parents) have her and are trying to make me sign a ridiculous custody agreement... the whole thing is like a Greek tragedy

DO NOT SIGN THE CUSTODY AGREEMENT.
I know you are going through alot right now, but you must realize that if you do something in haste right now (like sign this agreement) you will regret it forever. I know its hard right now, but you need to get a lawyer and make sure your interests are protected. You have a daughter with your late girlfriend. That means YOU are the father and your girlfriends parents have no right to ask you to grant them custody (unless that is what you want).

Let me also say that even if you think you want to grant them custody, DO NOT sign that agreement yet. There is no way you could be thinking clearly at a time like this and you dont want to make a snap decision during this difficult time.

As per your girlfriends death, like everyone else I offer you my greatest sympathies, and can only assure you that even the greatest of tragedies fade with time.
Regarding what may have caused her death, obviously an autopsy needs to be done, and you should insist on this (again a lawyer will assist in this).
What concerns me about her death that no one else has mentioned is the episode that happened a few days earlier when you found her with foamy/bloody discharge coming from her mouth. You stated she only had 30mg of roxi that day and perhaps klonopin. That is a tiny amount of opiates for someone with even a small tolerance. I would make sure everyone knows about this episode because I would strongly suspect it is somehow related to her death. She should NOT have had anything close to an OD on 30mg of roxi, so please look into this.

Good luck-DG

 

[Flexistentialist]

The snoring is the respiratory depression slowly kicking in. As the breathing slows, fluid enters the lungs. It occurs gradually over a few hours. In the research on fatal opiate overdose, fatal respiratory depression occurred 3 hours after last injection in the majority of cases. This doesn't fit in with the common perception of an overdose (eg: injecting and immediately turning blue and passing out) and is often ignored by people who assume snoring = asleep, resulting in death.

 

[izzy66]

Should the medical examiner or who ever contacted them explained that while she didn't die as a direct result of an overdoes, but w/ the combination of drugs she took it caused other issues which led to her death. And they should be able to determine what drugs were in her system correct?

idk where you are but in florida her death would most likely be classified as "accidental, multiple drug intoxication" based on the info you gave. final toxicology can take from 2-8 weeks and will report what drugs and how much were in her system.

DO NOT sign anything about your child w/out seeing a lawyer first. YOU have rights as the father and natural guardian. grandparents have limited or no rights depending on your state.
also, since you did have a child w/ her you may be able to talk w/ the coroner and get a death certificate.
i'm so sorry. this past august my son's gf for 5yrs died from pulmonary embolism (blood clots in the pulmonary artery). while she didn't die directly from drugs, she had a drug problem which contributed to her poor health. deaths in young ppl due to Rx drugs are epidemic and it is absolutely heartbreaking.
best of luck to you.
-izzy

 

[daddysgone]

I think the child would be better with his grandparents!
A junkie would be a horrible parrent...

Another brilliant post!!!
Where exactly, does this post indicate that the OP (the father) is a "junkie". The mother of his child used drugs and tragically died you insensitive fuck. But nowhere in this thread does the OP mention that he himself uses drugs.

 

[hydroazuanacaine]

Edit: never-mind that, not the place.

And OP, that's rough. must make it all the more horrible, the way her parents are reacting towards you. but the premature death of a child will make parents crazy.

 

[g3nov3s3]

Where exactly, does this post indicate that the OP (the father) is a "junkie". The mother of his child used drugs and tragically died you insensitive fuck. But nowhere in this thread does the OP mention that he himself uses drugs.

Well...I just assumed that he is also taking drugs since he lived with a drug user... Why would a clean person stay with someone who is taking drugs?

 

[spaceyourbass]

well...i just assumed that he is also taking drugs since he lived with a drug user... Why would a clean person stay with someone who is taking drugs?

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i am a newbie so forgive me if i am do anything wrong. I am just in despreate need of finding out what killed my girlfriend. Here is the back ground. She was an addict mainly opiates. She had just got out of a bs 5 day rehap on monday. On tuesday she called in a refill for klonopin which were .5 mg. She was w/me that day she also took at least a 30 mg roxicet early in the day. I have no idea how many klonopins she took but early wed moring i found her face down on the floor in a pool of something looked like a mixture of stomache acid and blood. Any way she was unresponsive but breathing i took her to the emergency room and she was kept for a day. Sat she came to my house around noon she had already done 90mg of roxicet. I watched her like a hawk the rest of the day and am all most positve she didn't do anything else until midnite. We had went to bed around 10pm or so and i woke up at midnite and found her she had stole $100 off me and got something either heroine or pills i think it was heroin personally. I went back to bed she came up soon after and said she was cold and could she sleep w/me. I let her. She started snoring badly so i slept down stairs on the couch. Next morning around 10am i checked on her and she was still snoring away. When i went to wake her up at 12:45 she was dead. There was some fluid next to her her head was turned slightly to one side and she was on her back. The authourities have told her parents that she didn't die of a drug overdose which i never thought that she did she was alive for at least 8 hrs after she did her last drug and i know she didn't wake up and do more because i searched her and she wasn't very good at hiding things in that state. So i guess what i want to know is shouldn't the medical professional be able to determine if she died from asphyxiation? And if they are telling her parents that she didn't die from an od does that mean that they found no herione in her system, and were they just looking for that and not other things? I know klonopin and herione are not a good mix. I think she still had those klonopin from earlier in the week because the bottle was never found. Like i said this is the first time i have ever done a forum for anything and anyone who could give me some info would be great. Since they have told her parents that she didn't die of a herione overdose it seems like they are blaming me for her death even though at the time she wasn't even living w/ me because i kicked her out because she was using. Help please

 

[edgewise1]

DO NOT SIGN THE CUSTODY AGREEMENT.
I know you are going through alot right now, but you must realize that if you do something in haste right now (like sign this agreement) you will regret it forever. I know its hard right now, but you need to get a lawyer and make sure your interests are protected. You have a daughter with your late girlfriend. That means YOU are the father and your girlfriends parents have no right to ask you to grant them custody (unless that is what you want).

Let me also say that even if you think you want to grant them custody, DO NOT sign that agreement yet. There is no way you could be thinking clearly at a time like this and you dont want to make a snap decision during this difficult time.

As per your girlfriends death, like everyone else I offer you my greatest sympathies, and can only assure you that even the greatest of tragedies fade with time.
Regarding what may have caused her death, obviously an autopsy needs to be done, and you should insist on this (again a lawyer will assist in this).
What concerns me about her death that no one else has mentioned is the episode that happened a few days earlier when you found her with foamy/bloody discharge coming from her mouth. You stated she only had 30mg of roxi that day and perhaps klonopin. That is a tiny amount of opiates for someone with even a small tolerance. I would make sure everyone knows about this episode because I would strongly suspect it is somehow related to her death. She should NOT have had anything close to an OD on 30mg of roxi, so please look into this.

Good luck-DG

I agree 100% with this post! DO NOT let them guilt trip you into signing ANY type of document!

 

[thelung]

condolences

 

[Hugs & Drugs]

^ i agree with you
he's even posting shit on anti-drug campaign videos on youtube...
honestly man, have you nothing better to do??

what the fuck are you doing on this site if you have a problem with drug use!?
got a problem with it, please kindly fuck off
your intolerable shit is not needed or wanted

i am betting 100% on the fact you have used and abused drugs before...

that is all


and sorry to hear about your girlfriend mate
no one deserve to die an unnatural death

 

[stuckinaloop]

no you're not. don't even try and say that BS. you are here for one reason and one reason only. to troll this message board

everything you post is counter productive and the FURTHEST thing from hard-reduction

seriously...why don't you go in a nickelodeon chatroom on aol and bother some kids your own age

ever notice how every time you post you get fuckin flamed like crazy??? i mean put 2 & 2 together man...

 

[g3nov3s3]

No, you got it all wrong!! I don't troll here, don't be ridiculous!
I just want people to stay away from drugs, because they cause so much harm...

Cheers!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I just had to unapprove (hide) ELEVEN posts in this thread. The OP is going through a rough patch, and this bullshit flaming BY ANYONE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. If the attacks don't stop, I WILL be issuing infractions. A conscientious BLer kindly brought these posts to our attention by REPORTing them. Please do the same instead of "feeding the troll" and resorting to ad hominems, which BTW are not on topic in anyway. Anyone participating in this is being incredibly disrespectful to the OP and his situations.


You have been warned.

 

[187coopa]

She might have woke up and did some dope and then drifted back to sleep.

my freinds mom died similiarily she was a soma addict but didnt die of an od it was one of her organs and they found her surounded in a face of Bile and blood.

 

[paranoid android]

About the snoring thing that count my attension as i was placed in a very similar situation myself once. My g/f did up a big shot of 200mg's of morphine+0.1mg's of clonidine. This was a fairly decent shot for me and ive been using opiates for 6 years (clonidine especially IVed really adds to the overall CNS depression of opiates and for fuck sakes don't IV clonidine!) so i was really worried about someone who had been using for maybe 3 months at much lower doses taking that shot. But there was no way of talking her out of it so we both did the shot and she went out cold 5 minutes after the injection.

She was totally non responsive but my roommate assured me she was alright so i just kept close watch on her and kept trying to wake her up and after rubbing my knuckles over her ribcabe (this is very painful and doctors sometimes use it to test to see if you are really in OD terrority) and throwing very cold water on her she woke up for abit and was more then abit annoyed at me .

But i will never forget that sound when she first made after going out. She normally snores anyway (or breathes rather heavily yeah whatever love ) but this sounded different. Like a very old person with bad lungs snoring or something. It was more then enough to make me happy when she finally stopped the stuff and we both did it together granted my sobriety is also not entirely voluntary i just can't afford to pay street prices.

My regards to the OP who must be going through a bitch of a time now and deserves nothing but condolences. I can't imagine what it would be like to lose my g/f to anything so i can't imagine what kinda a rough spot your in.

 

[masterkush]

sorry about your situation i know my words cant do anything to make you feel better, but i feel for you

she might might have vomited when sleeping and chocked, but like what has been said you will never know without an autopsy.

 

[etherbunny]

She started snoring badly so I slept down stairs on the couch. Next morning around 10am I checked on her and she was still snoring away. When I went to wake her up at 12:45 she was dead. There was some fluid next to her her head was turned slightly to one side and she was on her back. The authourities have told her parents that she didn't die of a drug overdose which I never thought that she did she was alive for at least 8 hrs after she did her last drug and I know she didn't wake up and do more because I searched her and she wasn't very good at hiding things in that state. So i guess what I want to know is shouldn't the medical professional be able to determine if she died from asphyxiation? And if they are telling her parents that she didn't die from an OD does that mean that they found no herione in her system, and were they just looking for that and not other things? I know klonopin and herione are not a good mix. I think she still had those Klonopin from earlier in the week because the bottle was never found. Like I said this is the first time I have ever done a forum for anything and anyone who could give me some info would be great. Since they have told her parents that she didn't die of a herione overdose it seems like they are blaming me for her death even though at the time she wasn't even living w/ me because I kicked her out because she was using. HELP PLEASE

Personally what I think happened was the snoring indicated that the last amount of drugs she did was effecting her heart. Some time between when you went down stairs, she could have suffered a stroke, seizure, heart attack, and finally had a fatal attack btw 10am and 1245, she suffered a fatal attack and passed.

With a history of opiate addiction, prescribed and illicit, causes a weak heart. Though the lethal dose of klonopin is very high by itself, when combined with a compromised system and the use of potent opiates, could lead to the conclusion that it was a fatal drug combination: overdose.

I wish you the very best for you and truly wish you happiness and joy.

Peace and love

Etherbunny