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What is better in the end MDMA or Alcohol or Cannabis?

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sushiburger

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I want to quit doing as many drugs as I'm doing. Currently I'm giving up tobacco to lead a healthier life, but I'm still using MDMA, Alcohol and Marijuana.
I'm still young and and party during the weekend. I mix Alcohol with MDMA and then smokes a joint to fall asleep. Very unhealthy lifestyle as you can see. Which one (out of the three) should I use, for less negative long-term-effects? Please show any studies/source to support you answer.


Thanks

PS.
To get a understanding of how much I use per time:
Alcohol: 1 wine bottle, or 30 cl of vodka
Mdma dose: 250-500 mg

I only put weed here because even though it might not do you much physical damage most people I know who smoke weed smoke everyday. And many of them have said they've become a lot more slow-thinking, memory problems, anxious, anti-social etc.

Also I heard with alcohol, if you detox the liver can recover much faster. Don't know if you can recover from much MDMA and WEED use. This is what I mean.
 
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Alcohol, when used in high amounts and often, is very damaging. Same could be said for MDMA (again, if you don't use in moderation). The neurotoxicity of MDMA is disputed. Cannabis is probably the safest. Of course, different people react differently to different drugs so its hard to say exactly what will happen to you. Alcohol causes more than just liver damage. It causes brain damage as well [source][source].
 
how confident are you in your own will-power?
the most unhealthy part of your lifestyle is the fact you use all of those substances too regularly
try using at these frequencies and see if your life improves

mdma - once monthly or every 2-3 months
weed - once every 2-3 weeks
alcohol - not to excess but once a week

sources -> my personal experience
 
With Mdma it is usually twice a month more or less.
Weed is everytime I take MD.
And alcohol at least twice a week.
It is hard for me to completely stop because I just started Uni and that's what we all do, party. So for now I know I can only cut down on substances and not frequencies. Obviously in a year or two I won't def party as much!
 
^agree. It's not even close. Don't get me wrong, weed can do bad shot to people, but not like the others mentioned.
 
problems with each:
mdma - frequent use will lead to depression and anxiety
alcohol - toxic, horrible to use frequently (physical addiction, fucks your body up)
marijuana - can cause various mental health problems (panic attacks, social anxiety, laziness, schizophrenia)

if you're someone who reacts well to marijuana, it's the safest. if it makes you anxious/paranoid, continued use can lead to long-term problems with anxiety and paranoia.
 
Everyone has given pretty good answers but ill throw in my opinion.

Alcohol is most definitely the worst of the three, it can cause so many mental and physical health problems along with the fact that alcohol makes many people to silly things you may get yourself into hairy situations. In fact out of the many, many drugs ive done, alcohol seems to be the only one that has led me to do extremely stupid and dangerous things, maybe benzos have a few times but not to the extent of alcohol

MDMA is not the best for you but if your getting clean stuff and not adulterated pills then using once a month shouldnt be too bad for you, and maybe not more than one re-dose a night with no silly, huge doses.

Now to my choice of the three, weed! Now I cant see the problem of smoking 1-2 times a week if you dont have a negative mental reaction to the cannabis, if you do get anxious or paranoid or any of the other common side effects from the weed then you shouldnt be smoking at all. And then of course theres the physical aspect. People go on about how much better phsyically pot is for you compared to tobacco and whie yes it is better for you, weed is still pretty damn bad for your lungs. But in saying that I think pot is the safest out of the three, And you could use pot more often than the others with relative safety.

One thing which im sure your aware of is that these three all have addiction potential, alcohol being more dangerous in that respect, weed is way more addictive than people let themseves believe, maybe not physically addictive but ive seen many people become extremely psychologically addicted and emotionally attached to cannabis. And MDMA I have also seen people become addicted to. Most werent taking it every day(some were) but they wouldnt go out without the stuff and got very fucked up mentally.

You seem like you have it mostly under control though so maybe just stick to the weed every now and then and you'll be fine. If you want to have a pill every now and then it should be fine too. I wouldnt suggest anyone use alcohol :P .... Glad to hear your taking care of yourself. Stay safe mate :)
 
i know you guys love to bash on alcohol but how are you gonna say mdma is better than alcohol? he says he's doing this every weekend. doing mdma once a week will fuck you up real fast, just go to our ED forums if you have any doubt. half the posts are about symptoms of overuse. mdma should be used once a month, twice is pusing the limits.

on a weekend to weekend basis alcohol is much safer. especially if youre smoking, itll keep you from drinking too much
 
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i know you guys love to bash on alcohol but how are you gonna say mdma is better than alcohol? he says he's doing this every weekend. doing mdma once a week will fuck you up real fast, just go to our ED forums if you have any doubt. half the posts are about symptoms of overuse. mdma should be used once a month, twice is pusing the limits.

on a weekend to weekend basis alcohol is much safer. especially if youre smoking, itll keep you from drinking too much
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Yeah can't agree more. Why does bluelight so extremely anti-alcohol? Damn half college students drink every weekend for years and how many have serious problems? Not too high percentile. On the other hand, imagine taking MDMA 52 times every year, for 5 years. How many of those would NOT have severe depression and anxiety? Not many imo.
 
Alcohol every weekend probably wouldn't be terrible. The side-effects of MDMA are disputed, so I would be hesitant to use it more so than the others. Weed will be the easiest on your body if smoked on weekends. I had that phase where I was high everyday, and that was problematic. I felt great but my mind seemed kind of foggy.
 
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i know you guys love to bash on alcohol but how are you gonna say mdma is better than alcohol?
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True, I can't see it being better in the "typical" usage patterns you see. There's not a lot of love for low-dose MDMA around these parts, maybe that would not be as problematic as alcohol. But weekly typical MDMA use will eventually screw with your brain.

Cannabis and alcohol often are used in low-moderate dose ways. Cannabis is safer overall, though if you can moderate yourself alcohol isn't terrible. Heavy continuous usage of either will screw you up (alcohol way more so than cannabis), but I imagine you can drink a couple beers or smoke a modest joint every weekend and still be very healthy.
 
Thank you for this answer. It is really well descripted not like @Nerdondrugs who thinks just because weed is getting legalized it is the safest. There are other things to a safe drug than just physical damage and effects. And you explained it quite well with the mental effects @the_ketaman.
 
Get rid of MDMA and alcohol if you want to be safer. Better for your health.
 
sushiburger said:
Thank you for this answer. It is really well descripted not like @Nerdondrugs who thinks just because weed is getting legalized it is the safest.
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The fuck? Actually I take back my post, just do booze and MDMA, however much you want. But only you. Weeds pretty dangerous.
 
In terms of health - Cannabis is probably best, it's documented as being less harmful than either of the other substances.
However, you mentioned you are a University student; can you perform academically while under the influence of cannabis, because I would have no chance.
 
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