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What does the USA do better than other countries?

You can decide between military and civil service.
Back when I was 18 this was the rule in Germany too, and I did civil service

However, I have to say it's positive that Americans can deal with all this stuff.
Honestly, if the situation here would turn into the situation in some US states, I'd not leave my house anymore
Kudos for having the guts to send your kids to public schools, especially in some of the more urban areas, I'd homeschool them for sure, and I can understand anyone who does.

But how are they going to rob you when you're not allowed to carry guns in public and people with prior convictions cannot even acquire guns at all? You get all this psychological testing and they really look at your prior convictions..

With a knife then? Even those are illegal to wear in public.

Also: try robbing a Bav with a knife, you're going to have it sticking out of your own throat in a second.
I can't really speak for that case anyways, because it never happens. Maybe in the cities, or up in Berlin?

I'm actually not as much against your gun laws as I am against the entire culture around guns in the US.
Here they're self-defense, if ever critically needed, and hunting (which you have to do if you acquire a hunting license)

I have an issue with your gun laws however, which is that background checks are quite lenient.


doesn't that fall under the castle doctrine?
Background checks are required to be performed by all dealers. The only way around it is the private sale loophole, which they should definitely close. But felons routinely carry firearms in the streets of Chicago, for example, which is the nearest major city to me. No amount of background checks will stop them from getting guns because guess what there are always people with clean backgrounds willing to make money by selling guns to them.
 
I’m just curious, what meaningful action do you propose they take to stop it? Because none of the proposals I’ve heard sound like they would do much for that sort of thing. I don’t see what could help as far as gun control laws short of a near-ban on guns like Australia has(which I am definitely not in favor of, and I doubt would ever happen here.)

You are definitely right about the semi-auto rifles, in fact a handgun makes more sense for that type of close quarters shooting. People just parrot the “assault rifle” talking point with no clue about weapons.

I'm just saying that I respect those who actually have the courage to come out for a complete ban on guns. The only two options on the table that have any hope to make real progress is A) no bans, a gigantic investment in mental health geared specifically toward young men or B) a mass confiscation of guns that would likely result in multiple small scale civil wars.
 
...B) a mass confiscation of guns that would likely result in multiple small scale civil wars.
That "option" is utterly absurd and everybody knows it-- including serious anti-gun people.
C'mon, get real.
Background checks, age limits, restrictions on certain high-capacity weapons, and licensing are reasonable. Most gun owners agree.
 
new zealand
I’ll buy in that the U.S. is less “free” than many nations but New Zealand is most definitely not one of them lol

But my measurement of freedom only has two statistics and the U.S. is the only country on the planet that I’m aware of that meets both.

Obviously my initial posts were a bit tongue in cheek. Didn’t mean to come off so rudely if I did.
 
Hehe, hilarious that you are saying that while at the same time sporting good old Biscuits and Gravy, thee most fattening food on earth as your avatar! I remember that when I was 20 I found an awesome Soul Food kitchen, which was basically a black woman's house in the Central District, and after eating there every day for a couple weeks, realizing I wasn't fitting my pants!
Lol yes, it’s really just a play on my username which is a long story.

I love me some biscuits and gravy but I’ve never crested 150lbs and I was eating 6-8000 calories a day and working out at least two to four hours a day. I’m blessed and cursed with skinniness for life.
 
ok so lets be real what does the USA do better than everyone else.

Technology.

and by a long shot too.

its why there film industry is better there auto industry better there aerospace industry better there arms industry better and so on.

Hmm, I share your sentiments in some ways, and yet feel 'technology' may be a bit too sweeping and generic of a statement to be meaningful. When I think of hi-tech cars, for example, I actually think German engineering, maybe Japanese, but really never American. Though there is definitely Tesla, but then that's owned by a South African. And there are those weird bouncing car things y'all love (j/k), but the French developed and perfected the finest hydropneumatic suspension.

Then there's computers. Definitely I tend to feel the US pioneered and leads here - who else?! Think Silicon Valley, and all that sweet dosh pumped in by DARPA and the defense industries over the last 70 years, leading to all kinds of hi-tech domestic offshoots and products. And yet pretty much all the mobile and embedded devices we now use run on British microprocessors, manufactured in Taiwan under their expertise in miniaturization, using etching machines manufactured solely by the Dutch. And the internet as we know it - wasn't that actually a European project? 🤷‍♂️

And aerospace, well, I'd definitely think NASA holds a lead in many aspects of space technology, though the Ruskies, Japs, Euros and Chinese all have certain areas of expertise where they do things as well or arguably better. Meanwhile the pioneer of much advanced civilian aircraft technology is actually European (Airbus) not American (Boeing), and more people fly Airbus, which is also the world's biggest manufacturer.

Which leaves the arms industry. Where again I'd say the US seems to hold a technological lead in most areas, hardly surprising given the vast sums invested in the defense industry by US taxpayers: think F-35s or the Gerald Ford class aircraft carriers. Though clearly not hypersonic missile technology, where the Chinese and Russians appear to be ahead. And then when I think about it, lots of the other inventions we take for granted come from other countries, like advanced tank armor (Chobham-type), jet engines, or VTOL etc.

So I dunno. The more you look in to technology, the harder it is to unpick the complex interconnected web of innovation and information exchange and say oh yeah, we definitely do that better...
 
Hmm, I share your sentiments in some ways, and yet feel 'technology' may be a bit too sweeping and generic of a statement to be meaningful. When I think of hi-tech cars, for example, I actually think German engineering, maybe Japanese, but really never American. Though there is definitely Tesla, but then that's owned by a South African. And there are those weird bouncing car things y'all love (j/k), but the French developed and perfected the finest hydropneumatic suspension.

Then there's computers. Definitely I tend to feel the US pioneered and leads here - who else?! Think Silicon Valley, and all that sweet dosh pumped in by DARPA and the defense industries over the last 70 years, leading to all kinds of hi-tech domestic offshoots and products. And yet pretty much all the mobile and embedded devices we now use run on British microprocessors, manufactured in Taiwan under their expertise in miniaturization, using etching machines manufactured solely by the Dutch. And the internet as we know it - wasn't that actually a European project? 🤷‍♂️

And aerospace, well, I'd definitely think NASA holds a lead in many aspects of space technology, though the Ruskies, Japs, Euros and Chinese all have certain areas of expertise where they do things as well or arguably better. Meanwhile the pioneer of much advanced civilian aircraft technology is actually European (Airbus) not American (Boeing), and more people fly Airbus, which is also the world's biggest manufacturer.

Which leaves the arms industry. Where again I'd say the US seems to hold a technological lead in most areas, hardly surprising given the vast sums invested in the defense industry by US taxpayers: think F-35s or the Gerald Ford class aircraft carriers. Though clearly not hypersonic missile technology, where the Chinese and Russians appear to be ahead. And then when I think about it, lots of the other inventions we take for granted come from other countries, like advanced tank armor (Chobham-type), jet engines, or VTOL etc.

So I dunno. The more you look in to technology, the harder it is to unpick the complex interconnected web of innovation and information exchange and say oh yeah, we definitely do that better...
cant go past nvida amd intel apple ibm sun microsystems cisco silicon graphics microsoft ........


your right it was too broad a statement but nearly every computer in the world has US patents on it.

though I think that is soon to change with arm starting to take off :)

will be interesting to see america's response to the change and also to see how the software houses deal with working with a risc subsystem rather than cisc.


by the way cfc

I am a massive Garfield fan :)

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But my measurement of freedom only has two statistics and the U.S. is the only country on the planet that I’m aware of that meets both.

sure, if you cherry pick just a couple of things you could probably make the case for just about any country.

the index i posted tries to objectively measure it hence many criteria.

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Manufacture weapons (good uns) and the dealing of them internationally.
Causing uprisings in other countries.
Lying to it's citizens and the rest of the world population.
I could go on but whz da point...?
 
School shootings and other mass shootings
Statistically you're (several times) more likely to be killed by lightening than you are to be in a mass shooting event. The only reason people care is because the media is pumping it up to further an agenda. Seriously, 2000 people are killed by lightning yearly. A mere few hundred at most are killed in a mass killing involving semi-automatic weapons, and it is painfully obvious that the root cause of these shooting events is societal ills and unregulated boys/young men. I might even argue that they aren't even random events, but rather planned killings by a shadow wing of the Democratic party attempting to sow fear and cause us to all throw our arms up and say, "Please save me Democrat Jesus!" I don't like right infringements but I don't view 18 year olds as adults, I barely view 21 year olds as adults. They're the ones committing these atrocities. Ban young men. Not the harmless inanimate objects we use to defend ourselves from young men or any other yahoos for that matter.

We don't have crazy people driving lorries into crowds and mowing 50 people down in one go. Y'all should ban all lorries, it's for your own good. Butter knives too, they could potentially be sharpened into shivs.

It seems silly the way English folks (and English colonials) look at America, the only ones who said "Go fuck yourself England," and fought a war to throw off THEY'RE imperial, tyrannical yolk they had us in, and act like we're not happy with how different we are from y'all. I'll take mass shootings over living in England any day of the week. I'm proud to be an American even in the face of the anti-abortion movement (which sucks, yes... hate Evangelicals with a passion personally) because we're one of very few countries who still tell the world, "Get the fuck out of our politics, it ain't yer business."



So I am proud of American Exceptionalism. I'm proud of our military might. We protect Europe from falling to Putin. I know that dickhead Trump tried to pull that out from under y'all but even most Republicans agree we need to be helping y'all out.

We're here for you Europe. I will personally always vote for a strong military to help keep the world in order. You're welcome <3
 
Statistically you're (several times) more likely to be killed by lightening than you are to be in a mass shooting event. The only reason people care is because the media is pumping it up to further an agenda. Seriously, 2000 people are killed by lightning yearly. A mere few hundred at most are killed in a mass killing involving semi-automatic weapons, and it is painfully obvious that the root cause of these shooting events is societal ills and unregulated boys/young men. I might even argue that they aren't even random events, but rather planned killings by a shadow wing of the Democratic party attempting to sow fear and cause us to all throw our arms up and say, "Please save me Democrat Jesus!" I don't like right infringements but I don't view 18 year olds as adults, I barely view 21 year olds as adults. They're the ones committing these atrocities. Ban young men. Not the harmless inanimate objects we use to defend ourselves from young men or any other yahoos for that matter.

We don't have crazy people driving lorries into crowds and mowing 50 people down in one go. Y'all should ban all lorries, it's for your own good. Butter knives too, they could potentially be sharpened into shivs.

It seems silly the way English folks (and English colonials) look at America, the only ones who said "Go fuck yourself England," and fought a war to throw off THEY'RE imperial, tyrannical yolk they had us in, and act like we're not happy with how different we are from y'all. I'll take mass shootings over living in England any day of the week. I'm proud to be an American even in the face of the anti-abortion movement (which sucks, yes... hate Evangelicals with a passion personally) because we're one of very few countries who still tell the world, "Get the fuck out of our politics, it ain't yer business."



So I am proud of American Exceptionalism. I'm proud of our military might. We protect Europe from falling to Putin. I know that dickhead Trump tried to pull that out from under y'all but even most Republicans agree we need to be helping y'all out.

We're here for you Europe. I will personally always vote for a strong military to help keep the world in order. You're welcome <3

Chill. I wasn't being that serious
 
Statistically you're (several times) more likely to be killed by lightening than you are to be in a mass shooting event. The only reason people care is because the media is pumping it up to further an agenda. Seriously, 2000 people are killed by lightning yearly. A mere few hundred at most are killed in a mass killing involving semi-automatic weapons, and it is painfully obvious that the root cause of these shooting events is societal ills and unregulated boys/young men. I might even argue that they aren't even random events, but rather planned killings by a shadow wing of the Democratic party attempting to sow fear and cause us to all throw our arms up and say, "Please save me Democrat Jesus!" I don't like right infringements but I don't view 18 year olds as adults, I barely view 21 year olds as adults. They're the ones committing these atrocities. Ban young men. Not the harmless inanimate objects we use to defend ourselves from young men or any other yahoos for that matter.

We don't have crazy people driving lorries into crowds and mowing 50 people down in one go. Y'all should ban all lorries, it's for your own good. Butter knives too, they could potentially be sharpened into shivs.

It seems silly the way English folks (and English colonials) look at America, the only ones who said "Go fuck yourself England," and fought a war to throw off THEY'RE imperial, tyrannical yolk they had us in, and act like we're not happy with how different we are from y'all. I'll take mass shootings over living in England any day of the week. I'm proud to be an American even in the face of the anti-abortion movement (which sucks, yes... hate Evangelicals with a passion personally) because we're one of very few countries who still tell the world, "Get the fuck out of our politics, it ain't yer business."



So I am proud of American Exceptionalism. I'm proud of our military might. We protect Europe from falling to Putin. I know that dickhead Trump tried to pull that out from under y'all but even most Republicans agree we need to be helping y'all out.

We're here for you Europe. I will personally always vote for a strong military to help keep the world in order. You're welcome <3
As usual I agree with a lot of what you say here.

BUT a couple of things jump out at me that make me wonder: is Cream Gravy? trying to be funny or is he batshit crazy?

Surely you don't truly believe that these troubled young men going on murder sprees hundreds of miles and decades apart might all be part of a plot cooked up by Democrats to boost the party's popularity? Just kidding, right?

And surely you're not suggesting that a knife and a gun are equal in their ability to allow an individual to kill a lot of people in a few minutes?

And this must certainly be a joke: a weapon that is specifically designed to be efficient at killing human beings is "harmless"?

Surely you jest.

I hope.
 
And this must certainly be a joke: a weapon that is specifically designed to be efficient at killing human beings is "harmless"?
Not a joke; inanimate objects do not do things on their own. And what purpose does a weapon serve if it is not designed to kill human beings? Why even create it (hunting purposes aside; I don't hunt and never will, I don't relish killing animals, they're more pure in soul than humans)? I'm not ashamed to say I bought my rifles with the thought in mind, "I might have to use this against humans."
Surely you don't truly believe that these troubled young men going on murder sprees hundreds of miles and decades apart might all be part of a plot cooked up by Democrats to boost the party's popularity? Just kidding, right?
I'm half serious. I'm starting to buy into the plausibility of such an evil plot. There are an increasing amount of indicators showing government officials are at the very least not trying to stop these shootings (aside from robbing us of our rights), if not encouraging them. In the same way I know that 9/11 didn't just happen out of nowhere, I don't think these recent shooting incidents did either. There's something fishy about how hard Democrats are pushing for bans.
And surely you're not suggesting that a knife and a gun are equal in their ability to allow an individual to kill a lot of people in a few minutes?
No, I was mostly joking about how much knife problems the U.K. has, or thinks it has. Obviously the lorry comment was serious though, that's a real issue and claims more lives in one go than shooters do by and large.
or is he batshit crazy?
That's the same question I ask myself about liberal minded folks who think there's no need for armed citizens.


I'm definitely falling right very fast. Mostly because of Pelosi and Biden's 'ban everything' rhetoric. Their use of words and language charged in ways that tell half truths and lies. I'm sad to say I am identifying more and more with right-wing folks because those on the left are latching on so hard to anti-2A stuff. Everyone picks their issue... mine is 2A rights.
 
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