Riffraff360
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Like honestly it can't be that high not higher than cigarettes but what do I know..
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Cocaine What are the chances of getting a heart attack from coke
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MagickalKat777
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Cocaine more than most drugs is especially stressful on the heart. There have been many cases of perfectly healthy young kids dying from cocaine. Its definitely higher risk than tobacco by a very wide margin.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
Would'nt that only be from daily use tho?
hey man btw I saw some of your threads and I got bad anxiety and panic attacks too any advice on how you cope with it
hey man btw I saw some of your threads and I got bad anxiety and panic attacks too any advice on how you cope with it
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Generally, yes it would be from regular usage but there is always an off-chance that you can have a heart attack without any predisposition.
That's not the only thing you have to worry about with cocaine though. I'd actually say that's on the lower side of immediate risks. Acute cocaine intoxication can cause stroke, seizures, and cerebral hemorrhaging among other things.
The risk of something happening with cocaine is much lower (like everything else) when you use it responsibly. I personally can't stand the stuff (very fast up, very fast down, and it was highly uncomfortable the entire time) but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who either used it a lot or still partake occasionally.
When it comes to anxiety and panic attacks, you really need to avoid stimulants to be honest. I quit caffeine cold turkey (had a 12 shot of espresso a day habit at the time too) and that helped a lot but I stupidly continued to roll on the weekends which exposed me to caffeine and meth in significant amounts at times.
Now I think I've just become somewhat desensitized to full blown panic attacks (I've had them since 2004) but I have constant generalized anxiety and I'm actually stuck at home now because it is so severe.
I decided to try kicking everything and give my body a chance to heal... I'm stuck with the benzos at the moment.
That's not the only thing you have to worry about with cocaine though. I'd actually say that's on the lower side of immediate risks. Acute cocaine intoxication can cause stroke, seizures, and cerebral hemorrhaging among other things.
The risk of something happening with cocaine is much lower (like everything else) when you use it responsibly. I personally can't stand the stuff (very fast up, very fast down, and it was highly uncomfortable the entire time) but I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who either used it a lot or still partake occasionally.
When it comes to anxiety and panic attacks, you really need to avoid stimulants to be honest. I quit caffeine cold turkey (had a 12 shot of espresso a day habit at the time too) and that helped a lot but I stupidly continued to roll on the weekends which exposed me to caffeine and meth in significant amounts at times.
Now I think I've just become somewhat desensitized to full blown panic attacks (I've had them since 2004) but I have constant generalized anxiety and I'm actually stuck at home now because it is so severe.
I decided to try kicking everything and give my body a chance to heal... I'm stuck with the benzos at the moment.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
Yeah every drug affects everyone differently for me cocaine is the answer too everything I worry about in life like honestly if I was naturally on cocaine for the rest of my life id be the happiest person in the world
i'm hooked to it the only thing that worrys me is im gonna die eventually from this shit
i'm hooked to it the only thing that worrys me is im gonna die eventually from this shit
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Coke is certainly not good for your anxiety. lol. Probably one of the worst substances to abuse with anxiety problems to be honest.
I probably would have enjoyed cocaine if it wasn't for the fact I was given a huge bump for my first time when I was already twacked the hell out of my mind by the speed bomb ecstasy pills I had been eating all night. I'm kind of glad that I did it in that situation though because I don't think I'd be alive if I had gotten into it.
I probably would have enjoyed cocaine if it wasn't for the fact I was given a huge bump for my first time when I was already twacked the hell out of my mind by the speed bomb ecstasy pills I had been eating all night. I'm kind of glad that I did it in that situation though because I don't think I'd be alive if I had gotten into it.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
Not really when im coked out all my thoughts are cleared and im finally at peace and tbh my heart beats way faster when im not on coke anyways from being so anxious
Circle of Fiends
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Pretty high compared to most stimulants, for two reasons.
1.) Coke is a sodium channel blocker that can cause heart arrhythmia, among other problems. Amphetamines merely raise heart rate and blood pressure while coke has the additional sodium channel effect.
2.) Coke is notoriously impure. If you're lucky, it will be cut with something benign like lactose. If not, you'll get something like levamisole, which converts to aminorex in the body. In case you're not familiar w/ it, aminorex behaves like fenfluramine--the heart damaging portion of Fen-Phen. Levamisole has been found in ~80% of cocaine samples, btw, so it's no theoretical risk.
Here's an article about cocaine and heart attacks.
1.) Coke is a sodium channel blocker that can cause heart arrhythmia, among other problems. Amphetamines merely raise heart rate and blood pressure while coke has the additional sodium channel effect.
2.) Coke is notoriously impure. If you're lucky, it will be cut with something benign like lactose. If not, you'll get something like levamisole, which converts to aminorex in the body. In case you're not familiar w/ it, aminorex behaves like fenfluramine--the heart damaging portion of Fen-Phen. Levamisole has been found in ~80% of cocaine samples, btw, so it's no theoretical risk.
Here's an article about cocaine and heart attacks.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
Fucking shit I wish I never figured out that coke is bad for heart id be happier
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
I didn't know that about levamisole. That's scary shit.
@Riffraff - I am talking about cumulative effects, not really effects while you're high. Most of the time when you're euphoric, its damn near impossible to have a panic attack with most drugs but that doesn't say anything for the comedown afterwards when you've blasted your system with serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine and it tries to compensate.
@Riffraff - I am talking about cumulative effects, not really effects while you're high. Most of the time when you're euphoric, its damn near impossible to have a panic attack with most drugs but that doesn't say anything for the comedown afterwards when you've blasted your system with serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine and it tries to compensate.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
I mean is it ok too use once a month I don't want too totally give up the only thing that makes me happy
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Honestly, reading about levamisole, I wouldn't think its worth the risk.
Levamisole causes agranulocytosis on its own which is why it was initially withdrawn from the market in the US and Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agranulocytosis
Levamisole causes agranulocytosis on its own which is why it was initially withdrawn from the market in the US and Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agranulocytosis
jackietango
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From experiences, I've always managed to bosh copious amounts of coke and have been always wanting more. I have a tendency to love the charge, but with all the great things that come with the devil of a drug... It's common sense it's going to strain your heart and cause serious anxiety problems. After doing coke for a long time, you'll feel the anxiety always being there, the epic rush of paranoia which isn't a good thing at all.
As others have said, the margin between cigarettes and coke are massively different. I just tend to keep coke at arm's length and use it as a treat... But hey-ho, all drugs effect people in different ways. Bit of a grey area, really.
As others have said, the margin between cigarettes and coke are massively different. I just tend to keep coke at arm's length and use it as a treat... But hey-ho, all drugs effect people in different ways. Bit of a grey area, really.
shroomster
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Riff, I swear you are making 2 threads a day. In fact, this thread is almost identical a thread you made recently where you were surprised to find out coke is bad for your cardiovascular system. I'm going to post the same thing I posted in your last thread because I don't think you even kept up with that one.
Riffraff, I've read all of your posts since you've joined. You are a very uneducated drug user (consider your thread about cocaine and the heart. You were unaware stimulants damaged your cardiovascular system), and you take many risks by starting so young. Very few people who start so heavily at that age make anything of their lives. Most continue using well after it was just something to do; it becomes the only thing to do.
My guess is you'll be dead, in jail, or best bet is rehab before 20. You will struggle to get clean, and when you do, you'll realize you haven't made anything of yourself up until this point, while everyone who abstained that grew up around you are moderately content with their lives.
This is coming from a 25 year old who started at 13, and picked up heavier drugs at 15 or 16 (notice that I joined this forum in 2002, and I'm just about to turn 26.
Mark my words, you are not "good". You're destroying your future, one dose at a time.
My advice to you is to quit, or [if you must] use marijuana moderately, but if you decide to continue abusing harder drugs, use them all moderately. H and speed used "moderately" does not mean once a week.
EXERCISE. Get obsessed with bodybuilding and eating right. You'll feel and look great, and you'll never regret those decisions. Pick up jiu jitsu. Do someting awesome with your life. You don't have as much time as you believe you do. Every day you spend alive is going to reflect your future. Every decision you make today will impact your life later. And here you are using drugs daily. Do you get me?
One thing I noticed about my drug addicted friends, is they all lost so much invaluable and IRREPLACEABLE cognitive function. Some were very intelligent, but I just don't see it anymore - not like I used to. I, myself, have become notably slower. When I was 17 I placed very high on an IQ test and thrived in the pattern recognition portion. At 23 I felt so slowed down, and was beginning to get frustrated in school because how slowly i was absorbing the material, so I took a test in the learning disability department in my college and FAILED MISERABLY in the pattern recognition portion. They said I have a learning disability. I didn't have one before my heaviest drug abuse.
and trust me, i feel it everyday.
Personally, I feel horrible for you. You're obviously second guessing yourself about your lifestyle at your age, but your drug habit will keep you in this madness until you face a consequence. I hope you end it before then, or decide to moderate your drug use before then, but I doubt it. I don't play it sweet and soft for anyone, so if I offended you, good.
Riffraff, I've read all of your posts since you've joined. You are a very uneducated drug user (consider your thread about cocaine and the heart. You were unaware stimulants damaged your cardiovascular system), and you take many risks by starting so young. Very few people who start so heavily at that age make anything of their lives. Most continue using well after it was just something to do; it becomes the only thing to do.
My guess is you'll be dead, in jail, or best bet is rehab before 20. You will struggle to get clean, and when you do, you'll realize you haven't made anything of yourself up until this point, while everyone who abstained that grew up around you are moderately content with their lives.
This is coming from a 25 year old who started at 13, and picked up heavier drugs at 15 or 16 (notice that I joined this forum in 2002, and I'm just about to turn 26.
Mark my words, you are not "good". You're destroying your future, one dose at a time.
My advice to you is to quit, or [if you must] use marijuana moderately, but if you decide to continue abusing harder drugs, use them all moderately. H and speed used "moderately" does not mean once a week.
EXERCISE. Get obsessed with bodybuilding and eating right. You'll feel and look great, and you'll never regret those decisions. Pick up jiu jitsu. Do someting awesome with your life. You don't have as much time as you believe you do. Every day you spend alive is going to reflect your future. Every decision you make today will impact your life later. And here you are using drugs daily. Do you get me?
One thing I noticed about my drug addicted friends, is they all lost so much invaluable and IRREPLACEABLE cognitive function. Some were very intelligent, but I just don't see it anymore - not like I used to. I, myself, have become notably slower. When I was 17 I placed very high on an IQ test and thrived in the pattern recognition portion. At 23 I felt so slowed down, and was beginning to get frustrated in school because how slowly i was absorbing the material, so I took a test in the learning disability department in my college and FAILED MISERABLY in the pattern recognition portion. They said I have a learning disability. I didn't have one before my heaviest drug abuse.
and trust me, i feel it everyday.
Personally, I feel horrible for you. You're obviously second guessing yourself about your lifestyle at your age, but your drug habit will keep you in this madness until you face a consequence. I hope you end it before then, or decide to moderate your drug use before then, but I doubt it. I don't play it sweet and soft for anyone, so if I offended you, good.
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Very low.
Riffraff360
Greenlighter
Fuck it i don't give a shit no more im gonna use all drugs until I die
Cuhpcakes
Bluelighter
Not sure but when I tried it for my first time it was overwhelming. Ditched my friends to go sleep it off because I was having bad vibes.
Never really took a drug that made me that hyper, not even MDMA did.
Never really took a drug that made me that hyper, not even MDMA did.
bennyZA
Bluelighter
Really??? What is wrong with you? You have listened to so much Riff Raff that you've gone full retard. Make no mistake that dying from drugs is a slow and painful death. Sure the actual last moments may come quick, but the pain and suffering you will experience is mind blowingly intense.
shroomster
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Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
God I hate young people.