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Again, why merge all of these together? What was the problem with the old setup? Was there some kind of overhead to having so many forums?

Remember, the more you try and control and overwork things, the more you lose involvement. This is *exactly* what happened in the West Coast events and people got annoyed and stopped posting because it was too difficult.

This mistake was made once, and it's happening again.. just ten times bigger.
 
USA NE -> Making it...and probably surviving well.
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Since this is the only forum other than the MW that you have anything positive to say about...why not give us what you gave the MW?

*sigh*

I'm definitely not pleased with the changes made and don't fully understand the necessity of the change. (and yes, I did read everything).

Just disappointed...
 
MW was moved as it is simply to keep it from drowning out all the other states and countries, it has that much traffic. NE was second in amount of threads and members, but not quite enough to warrant a sub-forum at this time. That doesn't mean it can't happen, it just means we have to be able to justify it.
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Because it isn't the monster that MW has become. But if you notice, starlightgemini and dreamgirlie19 are making the effort to help build NE to the point of warranting a subforum - its not to that point yet.
 
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3. You are so dissapointed you won't come back - well, that's the inital reaction by a several people, and you are perfectly in your rights to choose which forums you frequent when visiting BL. I wish you wouldn't give up so
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If I post an event in a forum this big, it will be pushed off the main page in no time at all. Plus, forcing users to look at other events nowhere near them is also a burden. Yeah, they can use the search engine, or sort by who know's what, but you're ultimately making the browsing experience that much more difficult. That's a turnoff.

Anyways, if you have enough users, you are lucky and you can do what you will and this is all a moot issue. Those few users that are unhappy will leave and those that are happy will stay. However, if you don't have alot of users and you also try and impose complicated schemes to find and post events (as was the case with USA West), user involvement will drop and they'll go elsewhere.

I understand your dilemma and respect decisions you may have to make, however, as an end-user, it doesn't make much sense for me to post my event here. I don't run a super mega club and activity regarding my events in USA West was very small and I anticipate the activity in this new board to be zero. Would you want to post your events here?
 
I honestly understand your frustration, and respect your decision not to participate. I also realize I may come off like a mindwashed zealot preaching one way and one way only, lol. Give us until the end of next week, and see if the situation is better. I understand your reluctance to post an event here for fear that it will quickly be lost, but I believe we may have a solution to it. No one seems to have faith in it, but perhaps when it is in place it will make a little more sense.

If all the thread titles are of a certain format, then having the forum sorted by that format will put all events of a region in a grouping together. That grouping may be on page 2, but they will be all together.

I agree having to sort the forum (or search) is a pain in the ass, and I'm looking into having the forum automatically sorted on thread title so it looks 'organized' when you first come in - but I'm worried that may be a user setting and not a forum setting - I'm checking into that. Even so, a forum pre-sorted with all threads for a state grouped together on page 2 isn't the friendliest solution, but it would be a workable one - requiring users of that state to make a single extra click to get to page 2 for their state.

But again, you can make your decisions - hell, even walk away for a week or so if you feel you must protest. But come check on us in a little while, then see if the chaos isn't more organized and forum more user friendly.

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[Edited by TLB: I'm writing so damn much these past few days, that I'm making tons of typos. Then I go fix the typos. I've done it so much I'd swear the Edit Screen's button I keep hitting is entitled "Save Chaos" instead of "Save Changes", lol....scratch the lol and replace with maniacal laughter. I need some sleep.]
 
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yeah, well Cali and the Canadiens ought to be happy ;)

Nobody lives in Washington anyway, do they? - just kidding Washingtonians...just kidding, don't hurt me, please.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Because it isn't the monster that MW has become. But if you notice, starlightgemini and dreamgirlie19 are making the effort to help build NE to the point of warranting a subforum - its not to that point yet.
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my goal is to get this and damn it, it IS going to happen if its the last thing i do here:p
 
An alphabet with Washington before Rhode Island? Probably just the chaos in this forum ;)

But lest we digress from the problems...errr, opportunities at hand - back fixing this place up real nice 'n stuff. :)
 
We may, at some time in the future, open the forum back up to the members for creating initial posts, but for now members may only reply to existing threads.
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I'm sorry but that is pretty wack, if it remains to stay this way, I don't really see any reason for myself to stay around this web board. If I cannot even start a new thread in the forum where I am MOST likely to post a new thread. And as I have clearly stated before, I'm not the only BLer that feels this way.
 
Is it really so hard to hit reply in the new events thread rather than hitting new topic? I don't get the big fuss. This makes it a lot easier on the new moderators to make sure all posts follow the guidelines before they are made into their own threads. It would be rather sad that you would leave bluelight just because you would rather hit new thread rather than reply. :\
 
^^ Chrissie, I feel the same way as most of the above posters: this is absolutely ridiculous, and as much as it saddens me to say, I'm probably done posting any events on BL.

The reason I came to this site was for the NE Events forum... I spent several years looking daily at the different events, posting in the threads for them, and formed connections with the other people in my area as a result of meeting up at these events through the forum. Then I started posting events for others to see, and posted events quite regularly in NE Events for quite awhile. Even now that I live in California I've been posting parties and club nights in the West Events forum, all of which have generated replies and discussion.

So to to put it crudely, bluntly, yet to the point: this is total bullshit.

It pains me greatly to say this, as the Events forums are what first brought me to Bluelight and the Events forums are what have kept me here so long, but it is absolutely not even worth posting new events here - nobody interested in them is going to see them listed unless we have -at the very least- sub-forums. Theres a hundred other sites that I have much much less (if any) attachment too, but have much easier ways of searching for events. I just wish I could post about events here easily, because whats the point of posting that you're going to *name event* on another board when your friends are on this one?

Meh. I'm done ranting, but really really needed to get that off my chest. It's been fun, guys... good luck with the Events forum, you're going to need it when activity drops to nonexistant levels.

Peace ~Katie
 
I must voice my distaste for the new format.. I'm sorry.. we are taking a step backwards... from organization to disorganization... It may be easier to moderate.. if that's really a problem I'm sure you can find more moderators... It might be tolerable if there are subforums made.. like midwest.. but uh.. isn't that how it was already for the most part? .... You going to have a main forum with large "moderator chosen" events listed then a sub forum of all events in the area? I don't know.. I'm still liking it more as it was.. and I think this requirement of moderators to post a certain amount is kind-of silly.. (which is what lead to the forums getting merged) Okay.. so now that you have all of North America to pick from to post events.. you should be able to keep the postwhoring above whatever quota .... Who needs the convenience of only looking at events in your region.. don't take any of this personal.. I am friends with many of you who are moderators.. I still don't see this as an improvement and I believe people usually invoke change for improvement :)
 
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chrissie said:
Is it really so hard to hit reply in the new events thread rather than hitting new topic? I don't get the big fuss. This makes it a lot easier on the new moderators to make sure all posts follow the guidelines before they are made into their own threads. It would be rather sad that you would leave bluelight just because you would rather hit new thread rather than reply. :\ [/QUOTE

The problem with this is that you are trying to change the way people think about doing things. People don't like change. They don't want to relearn how to do things. They want things to be simple. If you're willing to challenge the way people are used to do things, kudos, but be prepared for people to resist that change. It's a dangerous thing to do when you're already teetering on low user involvement.

Also remember that you are going against the methods used on practically every other bulletin board system. I don't think I know any other boards that are remotely as strict as this.

If I were you guys, I would have taken a look at your guidelines in your sub-boards and probably loosened them up a bit. That would have allowed for more freedom and allow users to gain some ownership over their forums. Posting increases, then you *nicely* clamp down on things when things go overboard. This is the *key* to developing any kind of society. Once a user loses ownership (that "personal connection") over something, they don't care about it anymore, like what is happening now.

However, you guys are trying to clamp down on an already hurting system.. it just doesn't work...
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my goal is to get this and damn it, it IS going to happen if its the last thing i do here:p
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Me too. NE events was such a great forum. If everyone pitches in to show how much we need our own subforum it could happen!! =D Correction..... it will =D
 
i think this is bullshit.

The only thing that i wanted to do was to go on Canada forum and ask how the pixies concerts went.

We had a nice little group of us, that set up shit and heard what was going on on the other side of the country.

Now....it is gone.


fuck. one of the only things that kept me around on bluelight after the switch to fucking vbulliten.

now, what do i have. fucking NA events.....


Hey canucks, lets catch the next flight to boca raton (or some bullshit) to party on the beach....

not going to happen.

bad bad move.

/just give us our canada forums back. Unlike in Europe we cant jump on a train and hit up another country.

fuck.
 
just so everyone knows (I don't know if it's been formally announced yet) but in the sort threads option, you can sort them by thread title.. and once we get done getting all the threads into the new format, you will easily be able to find your area by sorting it by their title, then finding your appropriate state (or canada) ;)

It's gonna take some getting used to, I know I'm still trying.
All things new are often found unpopular, but with time, I think we all will get adjusted to it and live happily ever after.
 
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It's showing up fine for me as well.

Excuse me if I'm repeating what anyone else has said already but I'm voicing my opinion now.

Everyone has to understand that just because this changed happened doesn't mean we like it either. What we are doing is trying to make the best of the situation, and we hope everyone else can try yo do the same. All of us mods have been spending a lot of time discussing ideas and options WAY before the merge even happened. Now that it has happened we're spending even more time trying to do what's best and make it work. We're putting so much time and effort in for YOU. We want to make it easier for YOU. All we've been getting from everyone is negative feedback. Yes we know it sucks and it was better and easier the way it was....been there, done that, we know already! Now what you can do is try to make it work as well. Don't like the format of the titles and have a better idea? Tell us and it will be taken into consideration. Whatever ideas you may have to make the NA Events forum better, PLEASE let us know :) The forum is still a work in progress, so we'll consider any improvement ideas you may have. So what I'm trying to say here is that we're trying to make the best of a sucky situation and we hope you can to, and you can help us in the process.

Thank you and have a nice day
 
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