Stimulants Weird speed boredom effect

[lecroute]

I know this feeling very well, I find it comes on at the tail end of the high. Nothing will hold my interest and everything that was enjoyable hours earlier is now mind numbingly boring even simple things like watching TV is so damn boring.

I imagine it comes from your dopamine receptors being burnt out so you don't get the same "reward". The name for it is anhedonia if you are interested in learning more about the neurological side!

I must have been decades on amphetamines because that's how I've been feeling for the last 20 or so months. Which might have a lot to do with lack of actual (not artificial/drug-induced) reward.

 

[Allanford]

I must have been decades on amphetamines because that's how I've been feeling for the last 20 or so months. Which might have a lot to do with lack of actual (not artificial/drug-induced) reward.

I must have been decades on amphetamines because that's how I've been feeling for the last 20 or so months. Which might have a lot to do with lack of actual (not artificial/drug-induced) reward.

Maybe you are depressed? When I found out some time ago antidepressants helped me a lot because I lacked seratonin, did wonders for my OCD too( even tough a lot of people seem to hate on them). Maybe see a psychiatrist?

 

[Allanford]

I know this feeling very well, I find it comes on at the tail end of the high. Nothing will hold my interest and everything that was enjoyable hours earlier is now mind numbingly boring even simple things like watching TV is so damn boring.

I imagine it comes from your dopamine receptors being burnt out so you don't get the same "reward". The name for it is anhedonia if you are interested in learning more about the neurological side!

Yeah, I just dont want to accept that truth sometimes...

 

[Allanford]

I know this feeling very well, I find it comes on at the tail end of the high. Nothing will hold my interest and everything that was enjoyable hours earlier is now mind numbingly boring even simple things like watching TV is so damn boring.

I imagine it comes from your dopamine receptors being burnt out so you don't get the same "reward". The name for it is anhedonia if you are interested in learning more about the neurological side!

But then how come some people binge for like a whole week when it gets that boring :/

 

[MindlessBilly]

But then how come some people binge for like a whole week when it gets that boring :/

I'm sure not all users experience this site effect but as it usually happens as the drug starts to ware off. Those who are staying up for days on end are constantly redosing.

Personally I find after 24 hour on the drug I'd rather knock my self out than continue to redose and become increasingly more scattered. Plus staying up for a week has to be pretty horrible for your body and mind.

 

[Allanford]

I'm sure not all users experience this site effect but as it usually happens as the drug starts to ware off. Those who are staying up for days on end are constantly redosing.

Personally I find after 24 hour on the drug I'd rather knock my self out than continue to redose and become increasingly more scattered. Plus staying up for a week has to be pretty horrible for your body and mind.

The max I did was around 90h, I managed trough the boredom cause it was trough a weekwend so I also used other stuff, but I guess when you pass the boredom phase it gets fun because I personaly loved dancing with shadow People at night a lot, albeit that is highly unhelthy Im sure and wouldnt recomend it.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Amphetamine & methamphetamine cause you brain to release massive amounts of dopamine.

After that initial release, your body needs time to build dopamine back up. It also rewires your reward system, so your brain isn't going to get any satisfaction from anything else unless you keep taking more & more speed.

I also use to get this for up to a week or more after quitting a meth binge. Even other drugs wouldn't feel as good for that week after, most likely because my brain was deficient in dopamine & rewired.

I eventually quit meth & stimulants after 20+ years of using them off & on. It just wasn't worth it anymore.

 

[Allanford]

Amphetamine & methamphetamine cause you brain to release massive amounts of dopamine.

After that initial release, your body needs time to build dopamine back up. It also rewires your reward system, so your brain isn't going to get any satisfaction from anything else unless you keep taking more & more speed.

I also use to get this for up to a week or more after quitting a meth binge. Even other drugs wouldn't feel as good for that week after, most likely because my brain was deficient in dopamine & rewired.

I eventually quit meth & stimulants after 20+ years of using them off & on. It just wasn't worth it anymore.

Im proud of you, I just use here and there because speed is popular here and dirt cheap. But when I buy my own stash I keep chasing that initial high, that sensation on my body and energy, unwise...

 

[lecroute]

Maybe you are depressed? When I found out some time ago antidepressants helped me a lot because I lacked seratonin, did wonders for my OCD too( even tough a lot of people seem to hate on them). Maybe see a psychiatrist?

Been there, done that. Was a big mistake as something that was just going through a rough patch became a nightmare. And I got my diagnosis a year and a half later, and it's not depression (or BPD or OCD or ADHD). What happened is that things happened and I was trapped in a very unhealthy living situation out of which I could escape only recently.
So my problem was (still is, no overnight changes here) more a lack of dopamine.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Im proud of you, I just use here and there because speed is popular here and dirt cheap. But when I buy my own stash I keep chasing that initial high, that sensation on my body and energy, unwise...

Thanks man!

I can still empathize with those using speed/meth. It took me almost all those 20 years to finally quit it.
I've always been more into opioids anyway. I get better energy, motivation & depression relief from opioids (especially heroin, tramadol, etc..). And can still go to bed at the end of the day on them. lol

On meth/speed I never really felt more motivated, except if you include motivated to 'get off'. The first several years, meth was good at making me more social & it was pretty fun. But then once chronic use set in & I got older, it just turned me into a sex fiend. Nothing else was fun on it except sex stuff.
It was mostly just good at keeping me awake too, but not necessarily productive or focused.

And then once the hornyness disappears, I just end up bored & semi-psychotic from it. Plus the crash got worse & worse as I got older, until I eventually I was like "okay I can't do this anymore, it's not even rewarding for me". And I vowed to stop it. I haven't touched meth in a long time now. I've been offered here or there & had the strength to say no.

I'd be lying if I didn't say I don't miss it some times though. Hooking up with hot people & just living in the moment.
I think once people are ready to quit something though, they will. But everyone has their timeline for when that's appropriate for them.

I weighed my pros & cons & decided that the cons of me doing speed now a days far out weigh the benefits. So I knew it was time to put it to rest.

All the best my friend!

 

[Allanford]

I want to see the shadow people for one last time before I become employed again, I will drink a beer every now and then to combat the boredom(my famous last words before becoming a speed freak alcoholic)

 

[Allanford]

Thanks man!

I can still empathize with those using speed/meth. It took me almost all those 20 years to finally quit it.
I've always been more into opioids anyway. I get better energy, motivation & depression relief from opioids (especially heroin, tramadol, etc..). And can still go to bed at the end of the day on them. lol

On meth/speed I never really felt more motivated, except if you include motivated to 'get off'. The first several years, meth was good at making me more social & it was pretty fun. But then once chronic use set in & I got older, it just turned me into a sex fiend. Nothing else was fun on it except sex stuff.
It was mostly just good at keeping me awake too, but not necessarily productive or focused.

And then once the hornyness disappears, I just end up bored & semi-psychotic from it. Plus the crash got worse & worse as I got older, until I eventually I was like "okay I can't do this anymore, it's not even rewarding for me". And I vowed to stop it. I haven't touched meth in a long time now. I've been offered here or there & had the strength to say no.

I'd be lying if I didn't say I don't miss it some times though. Hooking up with hot people & just living in the moment.
I think once people are ready to quit something though, they will. But everyone has their timeline for when that's appropriate for them.

I weighed my pros & cons & decided that the cons of me doing speed now a days far out weigh the benefits. So I knew it was time to put it to rest.

All the best my friend!

I always prefered alcohol over any other drug personaly, opiods make me agitated for some reason, all the best to you too!

 

[Isavelaa]

I want to see the shadow people for one last time before I become employed again, I will drink a beer every now and then to combat the boredom(my famous last words before becoming a speed freak alcoholic)

Shadow People are here to stay. They wont leave once they come and make themselves comfortable, and they speak shit about you, poison your food, moving your things, torment you to the point you wish you never had taken stims in the first place..
I mean too much stims can (and usually, eventually will) do serious damage to mental health. I wish you don't want to see those hallucinations, i was not taking them serious enough and stop, and now they're constant. Speed is boring, lets keep it that way.. When it comes psychosis, instantly, its too late to never use it with any fun way.

 

[smokedopetillidie]

Hi, does anyone else sometimes feel extremly bored when on amphetamines? Even after a bigger dose I still cant bring myself to do anything because everything is boring; music, porn, games, books, I barely made myself write this. Laying in bed doing nothing for hours...I know a couple of beers will fix this when the store opens, but its kind of a mystery to me why this happens at times.

Your environment effects how stimulants effect you a lot. If you were bored to start with chances are stimulants will only improve it a little bit you kinda have to be in a good mindset

 

[Allanford]

Shadow People are here to stay. They wont leave once they come and make themselves comfortable, and they speak shit about you, poison your food, moving your things, torment you to the point you wish you never had taken stims in the first place..
I mean too much stims can (and usually, eventually will) do serious damage to mental health. I wish you don't want to see those hallucinations, i was not taking them serious enough and stop, and now they're constant. Speed is boring, lets keep it that way.. When it comes psychosis, instantly, its too late to never use it with any fun way.

i have no idea what happened now, just this morning after my second night I got gigantic bodyload, I have no will nor power to do anything, I had to make lunch but I am incapable, I was staring into a wall for over 3 hours with an ego death like experience before writing this. Is this common? I still dont feel like myself fully

 

[Allanford]

i have no idea what happened now, just this morning after my second night I got gigantic bodyload, I have no will nor power to do anything, I had to make lunch but I am incapable, I was staring into a wall for over 3 hours with an ego death like experience before writing this. Is this common? I still dont feel like myself full

I am scared even tough I cant feel fear, I can barely feel anything

 

[Isavelaa]

Maybe you dosed too much or too often? Too long binge?

Sounds familiar to me when I abused speed, i could easily stare at the wall/floor for hours, not moving, catatonic, feeling i'm gonna lose my mind but cannot think anything or feel anything. Like I was locked. It Sounds scary and it is, nothing normal at all. I saw and heard things even alone, smelled weird odors.. And those damn shadow creatures were lurking. Everything started to go More and More To chaos when I continued bingeing. Psychosis and beyond it. Full blown delirium. It was like you were taken deliriants and psychedelics, everything looked so real, as real as it gets, i stared some spot/object in the room and it morphed to something Else, flashes, moved, shapeshifted. And everything was dark and obscure, not in a Funny trippy way but scary and intimidating. And the voices/Sounds were constant. I barely did not lose my mental health completely or did not sie by suicide after those little 5 to 10 days binges without sleep. I wish I never pushed them that far for years, it only got gradually worse and worse everytime. Now I get instant psychosis from a single dose of speed, especially if taken nighttime it is horrible. I strongly suggest you not to push it too far to chase high, first signs of problems are that speed feels boring and you cant moved or think. Everything feels dull and minor hallucinations start to occur. Sometimes it takes years to get severe side effects, sometimes it happens after few too long and intense binges. No joke. Some People are More sensitive and get schizophrenia..

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

It took me many years of binges before I truly started to get hallucinations, generally from the sleep deprivation.


But some of the last handful of times I used meth, I was getting auditory hallucinations within the first 24hrs of being awake. Which was pretty alarming.


Mine didn't stay permanent, but I feel like if I had kept doing it, they might have ended up permanent.


Stimulants are fun until they're not anymore & that's always a good time to ditch them before it makes your life a living hell.

 

[Isavelaa]

It took me many years of binges before I truly started to get hallucinations, generally from the sleep deprivation.


But some of the last handful of times I used meth, I was getting auditory hallucinations within the first 24hrs of being awake. Which was pretty alarming.


Mine didn't stay permanent, but I feel like if I had kept doing it, they might have ended up permanent.


Stimulants are fun until they're not anymore & that's always a good time to ditch them before it makes your life a living hell.

It took me years too. I have abused and had long binges with mdpv/apvp/aphp/mdphp/apihp and with freebase meth, few times with crystal meth too. But stimulants after all.
Yeah, i get auditory hallucinations too immediately after single dose of speed or other stim, within minutes. Maybe I got kind of allergic to stims and my mind cannot handle extra stimulation no more, and my body becomes very uncomfortable, nausea, achatisia/tics, headache, very hard to breathe, extreme stomach/lung tension, high BP and hr ovet 135 all the time, if I stand up I can faint. My body is telling me instantly that shit is not for me anymore, before I get to delirium/psychotic stage (in 2-6hours if consuming stims).

The worst part is, i somehow "enjoyed" those psychotic episodes with speed few years back, how irresponsible and stubborn I was.. Unconsciously I knew somehow, they are not gonna end well, but still cannot stop using.

Nowadays i'm starting to get to know how to manage to live somewhat normal life without constantly being scared and anxious because of hallucinations.
And the Funny thing is, i really enjoy shrooms/lsd/ketamine and for many years I've had only couple not so pleasant trips, tripping is nice and warm and wild, but it's not that dark, intimidating, scary and evil world what stimulantpsychosis is.
Sometimes lsd is too stimulating for me and I get anxious when coming up, but it passes in couple of hours.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

It took me years too. I have abused and had long binges with mdpv/apvp/aphp/mdphp/apihp and with freebase meth, few times with crystal meth too. But stimulants after all.
Yeah, i get auditory hallucinations too immediately after single dose of speed or other stim, within minutes. Maybe I got kind of allergic to stims and my mind cannot handle extra stimulation no more, and my body becomes very uncomfortable, nausea, achatisia/tics, headache, very hard to breathe, extreme stomach/lung tension, high BP and hr ovet 135 all the time, if I stand up I can faint. My body is telling me instantly that shit is not for me anymore, before I get to delirium/psychotic stage (in 2-6hours if consuming stims).

The worst part is, i somehow "enjoyed" those psychotic episodes with speed few years back, how irresponsible and stubborn I was.. Unconsciously I knew somehow, they are not gonna end well, but still cannot stop using.

Nowadays i'm starting to get to know how to manage to live somewhat normal life without constantly being scared and anxious because of hallucinations.
And the Funny thing is, i really enjoy shrooms/lsd/ketamine and for many years I've had only couple not so pleasant trips, tripping is nice and warm and wild, but it's not that dark, intimidating, scary and evil world what stimulantpsychosis is.
Sometimes lsd is too stimulating for me and I get anxious when coming up, but it passes in couple of hours.

Same here basically. The side effects of using got worse & more frequent the older I got. I'm glad I quit when I did or I'd probably be in an even worse spot now.

I know people in their 50's & 60's who still use meth almost every day & have been for decades. And they still work & go about their lives like nothing's wrong. I have no idea how they do it. lol

Oh I love lsd. I prefer it to shrooms. Lsd made me pretty horny like meth, but without all the shitty downsides.


I've always preferred heroin & opioids anyway though. And I'm on subs. So I think that played a big role in making it easier for me to quit. Also just life circumstances made me have to quit. Moved in with somebody I couldn't do meth around anyway without feeling guilty & shitty, so the cons started to outweigh any positives in getting spun out. So deciding to quit was a little easier for me to do than it would be for some one in a different circumstance.