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Weird mdma comedown.. Please help

Seems to me serotonin is responsible for balance/muscle control or something, cause everytime I've done it.. I feel slightly dizzy when walking around the next day, like some of my natural balance is impaired. It went away after a short while
 
I went to the doctor today and he really tried so hard to understand my symptom. He told me that MRI's or cat scans will not do anything. I even asked him if this is still an imbalance of serotonin and he didn't think that it is.. I am not sure if I should go to the neurologist in May and get told that i do not have any problems..
 
The largest part of Mdma come down is because you think way to much. Sure, some of it is unavoidable but the majority of it can be prevented just by being certain with yourself. I am still coming down and have an effect like you describe, a kind of jumbled view, but I feel kind of normal at the same time.

I don't want to speak to soon, but instead of worrying about something when you think of it, just confront it. It's made the past few day of my come down a lot easier. Say you're having a bunch of anxiety about the feeling in your head. Instead of worrying about it, just say, okay, I have this feeling in my head, worrying about it isn't going to do anything, stay calm and eventually it'll go away. Just think of anything, but as long as you confront the problem instead of worrying about it, you'll have a much easier come down, at least from what I am experiencing.
 
haha you found my very first post on BL :) I was a mess on this month the panic attacks were unbearable but I went through it! The most amazing this is I didn't take any SSRI's.. I am more calm these days but there are still bad days and reading a ton of horror stories arent helping. I am looking forward to my neuro appt tomorrow but I am hoping he will not put me on any ssri's. Wish me luck! :)
 
Hello jonnavi I strongly advise you dont take any SSRIs or any other Ads for that matter.

I have been on a ton of them and none have helped they just give nasty side effects.

The only AD I have heard working was Stablon which Cope took for a while. Stablon is an SSRE an unusual AD.

SSRIs have nasty side effects and will not solve your problems. From speakingwith others on BL it seems that the disruption to the serotonin transmission caused by the MDMA means the SSRIs dont seem to work.

As to exactly the cause of this I dont know but my own experience of citralopram and effexor confirmed this to me. They did nothing other than make me feel worse with loads of sexual dysfunction / spaced out side effects.
 
futura2012 said:
Hello jonnavi I strongly advise you dont take any SSRIs or any other Ads for that matter.

I have been on a ton of them and none have helped they just give nasty side effects.

The only AD I have heard working was Stablon which Cope took for a while. Stablon is an SSRE an unusual AD.

SSRIs have nasty side effects and will not solve your problems. From speakingwith others on BL it seems that the disruption to the serotonin transmission caused by the MDMA means the SSRIs dont seem to work.

As to exactly the cause of this I dont know but my own experience of citralopram and effexor confirmed this to me. They did nothing other than make me feel worse with loads of sexual dysfunction / spaced out side effects.
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Hi futura. Have had trouble with sexual dysfunction too, although it was completely a consequence of my MD use in my particular case. Did SSRIs cause this for you, or did it merely worsen a pre-existing symptom of MDMA abuse? Also, have you made any improvements in this regard? Sexual dysfunction is definitely one of the more frustrating aspects of my comedown - has been 4 months for me with minimal improvement :/
 
futura2012 said:
Hello jonnavi I strongly advise you dont take any SSRIs or any other Ads for that matter.

I have been on a ton of them and none have helped they just give nasty side effects.

The only AD I have heard working was Stablon which Cope took for a while. Stablon is an SSRE an unusual AD.

SSRIs have nasty side effects and will not solve your problems. From speakingwith others on BL it seems that the disruption to the serotonin transmission caused by the MDMA means the SSRIs dont seem to work.

As to exactly the cause of this I dont know but my own experience of citralopram and effexor confirmed this to me. They did nothing other than make me feel worse with loads of sexual dysfunction / spaced out side effects.
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I actually do not want to take any ssri's or any other type of drug due to the trauma.. I am hoping that there are other alternatives that the neuro would suggest. Maybe more supplements??
 
Hi futura. Have had trouble with sexual dysfunction too, although it was completely a consequence of my MD use in my particular case. Did SSRIs cause this for you, or did it merely worsen a pre-existing symptom of MDMA abuse? Also, have you made any improvements in this regard? Sexual dysfunction is definitely one of the more frustrating aspects of my comedown - has been 4 months for me with minimal improvement :/
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I think the SSRIs caused a specific sexual dysfunction. Now I have stopped taking them the symptoms have virtually gone but I seem to not be able to get 100% hard sometimes its weird to explain but I think it will pass with time. Before the SSRis I think the MDMA comedown only caused a general diinterest in sex however this is coupled with a general feeling of appathy.

Cant really be bothered to do much these days despite being a very very active person before.

In terms of improvement I think the disinterest in sex will come back once I can remove the general feelings of appathy. I feel this will only happen once I can restore a healthy serotonin network. Right now my sleep is out, I have no appetite, feelings of appathy, chronic anxiety etc so it would seem this is all classic symptoms of serotonin supply issues.

Whilst I have tried the supps, 5HTP etc I think in my case it is more to do with the transmission side of things rather than the supply of serotonin. Hence why it is taking so frigging long to sort itself out. So far 18 months now of this torture. This also explains why the SSRIs were inaffective no point in inhibiting the reuptake of a cell that isnt working properly.

I actually do not want to take any ssri's or any other type of drug due to the trauma.. I am hoping that there are other alternatives that the neuro would suggest. Maybe more supplements??
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Good to hear it will be interesting to see what the neuro sais. I suspect not a lot but we shall see :)
 
I am at month 3... The anxiety is way way down. But I still feel like their is a knot between my eyes. Very frustrating at times. It takes A LOT of practice to ignore it.
 
Hey guys just want to give you an update of my appointment. The neurologist asked questions about my medical history the common usual stuff and I was really honest about my drug use etc. I did balance tests and a bunch of other tests throughout my body including vision. After the tests we had a little chat about my condition. He said that no tests are needed such as mri's brain scans etc. He informed me that there are no other tests to confirm any damages that the drugs might have done to my neurotransmitters. Having said that, he did not dismiss the possibility that the drugs have affected the balance of chemistry in my brain. Like what most of you guys have said on your posts, time is the biggest healer and this is his last words to me... I have mixed feelings about my appointment. In a way I am happy that I don't have any other problems that I have to resolve but I am also sad that there is no easy way out.. What I'm really happy about is that he didn't suggest or prescribed any ssri's or any pills that I need to take or that may help to alleviate my symptom. I guess this is the end of me searching for hours online trying to find some answers. Like many others who are suffering.. I hope that you find ease in the coming months/year. For those who will be reading this, may this serve as a valuable lesson to NOT ABUSE DRUGS.
 
^ I'm really happy for you. Finally a doctor putting it all to rest should give you a *phew* feeling of relief you need to just quit worrying and move forward from now on, without looking back and regretting and wondering "if only I didn't..."

"Today is the first day of the rest of your life"

"Don't worry, be happy"

:)

Optimism is key. I have severe depression but there's pretty good non-drug-related reason for it tbh. Ex-gf of 5 years that just dumped me when I lost my job, living with alcoholic dad (again:() that constantly criticizes me in the worst ways possible (worthless stupid SOB, etc), had to take my dog of 5 years to be put-down two months ago because she flips out on other dogs and tried to kill my dad's dog...

Yeah I don't think it's surprising I'm depressed...
 
I think you are definitely right "optimism" is key and after my appt it gave me so much peace and even if I still have this symptom its easier to deal with it now. I guess part of it is acceptance since I still tend to dwell in the past and who I was before. I have read so much on the internet about effects etc but what I really was forgetting a lot about was dealing with it and facing it.. I am now content with myself and taking it one day at a time.. I do not know my recovery timeline but what I am definitely sure of is that I am no longer scared of it.
 
Yeah I'm about to take a break (2-3 weeks maybe?) from BL. I keep finding myself checking longterm come down threads like several times a day looking for reassurance. I don't think it's healthy.

Also, I would advise anyone recovering from a longterm come down to not drink coffee. I had a cup today and it made me feel anxiety... especially when it wore off.

Wish me luck... I will recover from this naturally, I have to. My brain is not static.

Whatever my problem is, whether it is physiological or psychological... I can't just stay like this for my whole life

I'll give it two years max, if I don't see ANY improvements before my 21st birthday, then its time to start thinking dark dark thoughts...
 
Yeah I'm about to take a break (2-3 weeks maybe?) from BL. I keep finding myself checking longterm come down threads like several times a day looking for reassurance. I don't think it's healthy.

Also, I would advise anyone recovering from a longterm come down to not drink coffee. I had a cup today and it made me feel anxiety... especially when it wore off.

Wish me luck... I will recover from this naturally, I have to. My brain is not static.

Whatever my problem is, whether it is physiological or psychological... I can't just stay like this for my whole life

I'll give it two years max, if I don't see ANY improvements before my 21st birthday, then its time to start thinking dark dark thoughts...
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You wont stay like this for your wholelife be assured of that just remain positive.

I have got out of one of these comedowns once before so its definitely possible to feel normal again.

You will definitely see improvements in the next two years. For me I just woke up one day and the anxiety had vanished lets hope thats whats in store for you.
 
futura12, I actually searched for your posts because I remember you said you had a 6 month long come down and came out of it.

It gave me hope.

Thank you.
 
HarrytheHead said:
This is very good news. Take a little vacation from BL to shift your attention away from all this. My two cents. :)
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hahahaha! I cant get enough of it! lols I actually go on other forums as well so dont worry I am aight! Better than before! :)
 
WhatIsWrongWithMe said:
futura12, I actually searched for your posts because I remember you said you had a 6 month long come down and came out of it.

It gave me hope.

Thank you.
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I agree! Futura is one of the people I look up to and is one of the people who helps me with my questions regarding my comedown. He definitely knows about long term comedown recoveries.. Thanks Futura you are amazing! :)
 
futura12, I actually searched for your posts because I remember you said you had a 6 month long come down and came out of it.

It gave me hope.

Thank you.
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Many others on here have come out of the other side also. Its just a case of being patient and making the best of each day despite the feelings of horror and dread that you have.

On my first comedown I took nothing other than 5HTp. For my second I made the mistake of getting involved with MEDs and I genuinely beleive they havent helped much.

Hope is the key as you effectively have to reprogram your mind negativity wont help you.
 
I agree! Futura is one of the people I look up to and is one of the people who helps me with my questions regarding my comedown. He definitely knows about long term comedown recoveries.. Thanks Futura you are amazing!
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Lets hope I can practice my own words on my second comedown LOL. Your welcome by the way..
 
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