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I don't know if my problem is related to mdma experience last weekend.
What happend to me is that 2 days after the actual experience I started feeling weird sensation on left part of my chest, things like pressure in different areas of chest shortness of breath, sometimes mild pain that is not localised to one area it could be almost in the shoulder or some where around armpit area.
It started 2 days ago being more strong yesterday and I almost dont feel anything today. I'm still going to see a doctor regrdless even if it goes away, but I was just wondering if anyone had similar thing happen to them after mdma.
To add a detail the whole experience was at a huge trance event that I spent 10 hours partying at.
Just want to know if anyone had similar thing happen to them and what it really was, I know it's hard to pin point what exactly happenes, culd of even been just overexhaustion of muscles since I get similar feeling after intense work outs :S
Well I would really appreciate any info... :)
 
Were you dancing? Did you maybe have a light stick in your left hand?

I know that sometimes after an evet my arms/legs/neck can feel so bad where I have been dancing for hours on end.

Normally it goes away with in a day or two but if your worried then a trip to the doctors is the best answer :).

Good luck
 
i don't know that with mdma, but it's common with methylone or mephedrone. did you test your pills/molly?
 
your chest pains may very well be from the rolls. one of my good buddies who took ALOT of rolls (anywhere from 5-10 a night) was always talking about how he had chest pains the next day(s) after rolling, and he said he knew it was from taking so much ecstacy. i've done a good amount of x but i never took it to an extreme level. ive done enough to notice a tolerance, but not enough to get the nasty side effects.
 
in the are you feel the pain press about at the muscle in that area , if it hurts then you know its just the muscles if not then its probably internal
 
for what i figured it might be muscle related pain, and other symptoms of having a heart attack are very well resemble panic attack which could happen after a weekend of rolling, when emotional state is still unbalanced. I never had panic attacks after rolling, so this shit is pretty freaky, I almost ran to emergency room yesterday. Will see what doctor says next week.
Thanks for your input guys.
 
believe me its not uncommon what your going through lots of people suffer panic attacks on e's and feel the effects from the attack its self for days including my self
 
Are you still having chest pain? I had the exact same expirence you had 45 day ago and i also freak out. I had to run to the ER 7 hours after taking the mollys. Yesterday i went to the doctor and perform and electro went well. Nevertheless i still have the same feeling you had by the armpid and the upper chest. I was wondering if you could tell for how long after taking the mollys you felt the pain? Thank you in advance.
 
Serotonin has far reaching effects.
Chest pain that occurs even days after MDMA or stimulant use is a sign of trouble.
Listen to your body and stop rolling for a long time.

I first experienced chest pain about two months prior to my 'brain damage' or Serotonin Syndrome.
15 months later I am still not done changing and I would do anything to go back in time and listen to my bodies warning signs.

The hypothalamus is a key area of the brain responsible for the effects of MDMA, as serotonin nerves that extend into the frontal lobes travel through this small and powerful region of the brain. The HYP controls many autonomic functions such as digestion, body temperature, and heart-rate.
It is the commander of the entire endocrine and adrenal system - and serotonin in the frontal lobes has a profound impact upon hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis function!

The HYP is also known to be HYPER-innervated from MDMA toxicity, because axons in the higher brain are lost.
Even during recovery, hyper-innervation of the hypothalamus continues for months and months.
MDMA permanently rewires the brain, this is no longer in debate.

I still remember the chest pain that occurred prior to my near destruction.
It felt like a deep ache, a soreness in the left armpit.
I tried to convince myself it was from pushups, but over a period of 3 days it really bothered me.
So I went to the ER and they found nothing on the EKG or chest CT...or bloodwork.

That is because the problem does not reside in the heart, but the brain.
And six weeks after this I had my first mini-binge. Rather modest in comparison to stories on BL.
2.5 tabs twice in 6 days, followed by another half the next day, and 4 benedryl 2 days after that.

But the chest pain I experienced after this was INSANE.
I went from feeling completely fine to "OH MY GOD! I'm DYING!!!"

It was such a wrenching pain in my heart I felt like I couldn't breathe!
It took ten minutes of SEVERE tachycardia for me to realize I wasn't going to die - at least not from a heart-attack.
I'm certain that a person in poor condition would be at risk for heart-attack.
Plenty of other HORRIBLE things happened after that, including eventual fever, possible stroke, cerebral edema, and the most intense intestinal pain in my life.

But it all began with chest pain.
And a brief look into Serotonin Syndrome, a loosely defined and poorly understood neurological condition, will show that chest pain and tachycardia is the FIRST sign and it is SUDDEN onset. It normally occurs from the use of two offending serotonergic medications, but MDMA alone causes effects very similar to the cascade of symptoms seen in acute SS. It is the degree that separates them.

Do not roll again for a good year.
I mean that!

Let your hypothalamus and frontal lobes have a LONG opportunity to re-wire themselves with the limited amount of damage you have done.
No, this does not occur to everyone. But for those that it does happen to, it is a CLEAR sign that drug use must be stopped.
All serotonergic drugs and psychidelics need to be avoided as well. And stims, at least for a while.
Even weed could cause you severe panic attacks, so smoke carefully in the next few months.

And exercise - it sprouts serotonin axons through BDNF release.
Seriously.
Don't expect the doctors to know SHIT about MDMA or the serotonin system either.

Good luck.
Take care of yourself.
 
First bad come down,
I would like to thank you for input and also for taking the time to write it. After my horrible experience with molly's i promise my self never to take any sustance tha can injured my health never again. My chest pain its almos gone but today i was squezing some lemons with left hand and felt that weird felling by the armpid and upper chest. I'm very sorry of what happen to you but also deeply grateful with you for sharing it. Since my experince 45 days ago i gave up alcohol as well. I do not smooke weed but o do cigarettes. " planning to quit soon". I'm running 5 times a week but i do not push myself because i'm afraid of my chest pain. Do you think i can do exercise as i did before this experience? For how long i could expect these feeling by my armpit and upper chest? After reading your post i feel a little bit paranoic that worst is not over yet. Did you felt the same chest pain after taking Mdma and then 6 weeks later you had mdma again? Once again thank you for sharing.
 
First bad come down,
I would like to thank you for input and also for taking the time to write it. After my horrible experience with molly's i promise my self never to take any sustance tha can injured my health never again. My chest pain its almos gone but today i was squezing some lemons with left hand and felt that weird felling by the armpid and upper chest. I'm very sorry of what happen to you but also deeply grateful with you for sharing it. Since my experince 45 days ago i gave up alcohol as well. I do not smooke weed but o do cigarettes. " planning to quit soon". I'm running 5 times a week but i do not push myself because i'm afraid of my chest pain. Do you think i can do exercise as i did before this experience? For how long i could expect these feeling by my armpit and upper chest? After reading your post i feel a little bit paranoic that worst is not over yet. Did you felt the same chest pain after taking Mdma and then 6 weeks later you had mdma again? Once again thank you for sharing.
 
For me chest pain was only noticeable for the first month - on the left side.
The first night was the most severe - the rest of the month was pretty minor.
As the re-wiring of my brain continued it eventually became quite obvious on the right side.
In fact it was so persistent and severe that my right arm went completely NUMB on two separate occasions - a sign of stroke.

It took many months of constant local aching combined with anxiety for this to happen.
It was always deep inside the armpit and down the bicep.
Occasionally it pinged very specific muscle nerves in the shoulder, and when it was bad it would affect the palm of my hand.
Terrible shooting pains.

If I remember correctly, the first 'stroke' occurred around month 6 right after smoking weed...and the second happened around month 8 while laying in bed after a high-garlic meal. Garlic causes blood pressure to drop, which increases stroke risk.
And this was the type of sensation loss that one would get from sleeping on a limb for several minutes, right down to the pins and needles.
Motor control was never lost, but I did feel like my right arm was heavier than my left.
By month 11 ALL aching and discomfort in my arm was gone - for good.

I must admit that recently my left armpit has had very mild aching that slightly resembles what happened before.
But there is NO anxiety or discomfort, only awareness.
A good sign, I think, that blood vessels are continuing to re-establish themselves.

You see, serotonin has a direct effect upon small blood vessels in the brain.
And if you move enough capillaries around, over time you will begin to affect arteries as well.
The process of angiogenesis, or creation of new blood vessels, is a well-known property of brain glial cells.
And brain vasculature is fortunately set up so that neurons can derive their blood supply from a variety of sources.

Also fortunate is the fact that not all 'strokes' are debilitating.
Hemorrhaging is quite dangerous because it can put pressure against neurons causing cell death.
And ischemia is the opposite - the loss of blood flow down an artery.
This is usually caused by clots, possibly in the brain or arteries of the neck that supply the brain (which can need surgery).

But Temporary Ischemic Attacks, or TIAs, are relatively minor strokes that typically do not cause wide-spread neuron death.
Symptoms are similar to those seen with more severe strokes but milder, of course.
Paralysis on one side of the face or blindness in one eye is a serious sign.
Pain in the shoulders, armpits, neck, or arms are considered less serious - but these often occur only on one side.
To test for a stroke both arms are lifted straight in front of the body by a medical professional, and you are told to hold both in the same position.
When the other person lets go, a droop or fall of one arm is a sign of lower muscular control.
And nerve damage in the brain.

When serious strokes occur in older patients, they are immediately put into physical therapy the next day.
Cardio is performed daily for six months, because statistically this is the time at which long-term recovery potential is reached.
Whatever level of function they attain by six months is what they will probably end up with.
And occasionally there is amazing progress in a minority of patients due to this exercise.
But in general, it is the extent of neuron death in the first five minutes that determines outcome.

Can I say for sure that you are having TIAs?
No - only an MRI can do that.
And there is little that can be done other than exercise.
Anti-clotting medications can be prescribed, like low-dose aspirin, or surgery performed on clots.
Neither address the root cause for you, so exercise is your best bet.

Lowering inflammation in the blood vessels of the brain and heart is a VERY good idea.
I highly recommend brushing your teeth three times a day if not more.
And floss every other day, making sure to brush once you are done.
The body treats plaque in the mouth like an infection, and the result is inflammation throughout the bodies circulatory system.
Good brushing habits are linked to lower levels of heart disease and stroke, regardless of other lifestyle choices.
This should be a regular practice, because only long-term changes will result in lower inflammation.

Daily aspirin is fine too, but stick to baby aspirin.
And turmeric is one of the greatest anti-inflammatory herbs in the world.
It fights inflammation in the intestines and it is a mild SSRI.
I take it daily and it occasionally makes a BIG difference in the way I feel.
Also, fish oil should be taken several times per day!
It improves the way your body digests harmful fats and cuts down on - you guessed it - inflammation.

You are doing well to run despite your chest pain.
The fact that you are doing it repeatedly without severe reactions is a VERY good sign that your HEART is just FINE.
I recommend lifting because it releases powerful waves of BDNF and dopamine.
Just start off easy and stop when and IF you feel chest pain.
If you can handle cardio, lifting should offer you no complications if you take it slowly.

Drop the cigarettes since they contribute to inflammation and prevent STEM cell proliferation in the brain.
You are robbing yourself of some of the powerful benefits of exercise.
Alcohol is a potent killer of nerve growth factors, so I'm glad to hear you dropped it.

Try to get as little light exposure at night as possible.
Dim your lights and computer monitor.
And get LOTS of sun during the day.
This improves brain function including serotonin production - and sleep is necessary for brain recovery.
Healthy diet is a must, but nothing does as much as regular exercise.

Make sure you stay away from MDMA for at least a year.
An experience like this is a sign that you may be more sensitive than others.
But the dose you took was ridiculous, too.
Now you know.

For many smart people, MDMA is a once per year experience anyways.
There is a reason for that.

Let me know if you have more questions.
No matter what, you are going to be OK.
That much I know.

Your heart is fine.
Your brain will be.
Period.

FBC
 
Hi FBC, once again thank for alll the input. I am amazed how knowledgabe you are in this subjet. Are you a neurologist by any chance?

Today i was playing tennis and @ one point my right are felt numb and heavier that the left one. Is this somethimg i should worry about? I swing the the arm up and down for a few times and the senasation went away after a couple of minutes. Evertying you mention so far is happening to me and i am a little worry. Should i be expecting intestinal pain in a near future? I hope not.

Well my friend, thank you again for all the info that you r providing to me and the others. Sorry if my grammar is not good enough but english is not my first language.

Best regards,

Milox27

I am following all your recomendation: Exersise almost everyday, heatlty diet, and sataying away from drugs.
 
Hi, I pretty much just made an account because I read your answers on this post and had a few questions myself. First of all I was having similar symptoms, for me my right side of my body was affected. The muscle under my right shoulder blade in the armpit area would noticeably swell up and be tense along with my right thigh. I used to deal ex and did it quite frequently for about a 2 month period, (every 2-4 days at sometimes, taking about 2-4 pills each time I rolled) I have since realized the horrible long term effects this has on your body because of my symptoms and haven't rolled since about september. I had similar symptoms when taking mushrooms which I know also has something to do with Seratonin as well but when shrooming I would feel pins and needles in my right arm and my right thigh would swell up extremely noticably! More symptoms I can note are that my right arm will have veins popping out in it, it will also tend to feel a bit heavy and I would feel tingles on areas of my body on different spots on my right side and occasional muscle spasms. This used to happen almost everyday not being present right when I woke up but usually starting about 4-6 hours into the day, these symptoms seemed to elevate with stress, so worrying about them would make them worse or in times of high stress or strain it would increase. I began working out and it made it feel a ton better a few hours afterwards but strained it during activity. Since I have quit ex it has occured a ton less frequently maybe once or twice a day every few days but it has been going away. I told my doctor about my short burst of heavy ecstacy use and occainional mushroom use and he said this was common and that in a year or so my symptoms should be, "as gone as they could be" anything else that lingers at that point is permanant. I guess my question has to deal with Marijuana, you said even would could cause sever panic attacks, this is exactly what happens to me. My intense ecstacy use was about from Jan 2011 to about April, with a few more times coming until september, this was about the same for the shrooms. My seratonin syndrome symptoms began in early october 2011 I'd say and I quit smoking weed on october 27 2011 because It caused my arm to tingle hardcore and the muscles on the right side of my body to tense up and swell, which in turn caused me to start having panic attacks. I really used to enjoy marijuana and haven't smoked in 4 months because I'm scared that all of this, "progress" my nerve damage has been having will be for nothing and that I will have another panic attack if I do smoke again. My overall question is... will I ever be able to smoke again without these symptoms? Does smoking worsen my condition? How should I go about starting up smoking again and when do you think I could? You seem very wise on this topic and have gone through some very similar things as I so I really appreciate your knowledge and answer. Cheers!
 
As I mentioned in another thread last week (approximately 2-3 days after some MDMA) I woke in the night with my heart racing. There was not the breathlessness of a panic attack but just my heart really racing. I eventually got up and decided to walk around to see if I could calm it down. It literally felt like it was going to pump out of my chest it was beating that fast. Anyway I tried to get into a comfortable position and see it through. I fell back to sleep (a very light sleep) and then woke up about 30 mins later and it was still racing. This went on for most of the night though by morning I could feel it had slowed down. However I had a really tight feeling in my chest (slight discomfort). That was the last of the racing though I have been waking in the night with some discomfort in my chest. It now sort of feels like indigestion but it certainly wasnt that on the first night.

Its been a week and I drank some alcohol last night and had the biggest discomfort (no heart racing just and uncomfortable sensation in my chest) in the middle of the night. I haven't slept one night all the way through since this happened (I normally do) and have been waking up 2-3 times in the night and not being able to get comfortable due to my chest. During the day I dont really feel a thing. I have been exercising and this generally reduces any tightness.

I did think I was about to have a heart attack when it was happening last saturday and I am still a bit wary about what happened.
 
Hello, after reading your responses to users who have had MDMA related chest pain and arm discomfort, I thought maybe you could shed some light on my particular situation. Two days ago I had a bad experience with a high dose of pure MDMA and needed to be briefly hospitalized. My heart rate returned to normal after a few hours and after some monitoring they let me go. Since yesterday I've been having slight chest pains and tingling sensations in my left arm and hand. I must admit this has been scaring the shit out of me but I don't know if going to a doctor would be an effective decision due to your explanation of the root cause in the brain. I have given up virtually all stims and drugs until I feel an improvement. I'm afraid I have weakened my heart or am at risk of a stroke? I am only 19 and was healthy before this experience but I'm scared none the less. Just wondering how Long I can expect to feel this discomfort, and if I should seek medical attention? I have been losing sleep over this and anxiety is prevalent. It would mean alot to hear your response sense it seems like you have had a similar experience. Thank you.
 
Hey Milox27 I've been having these chest pains the last two weeks & today it felt like it moved to numbing my whole left arm & then body. Has this happened to you? Or does these chest pains still happen to you? If so what could I do to help. I would go to the doctors but everyone with the same symptoms have been saying that the doctors won't recognize what we suffer from.
 
Hey, just giving my input here.

I took 2.5 really strong pills last Saturday night and ended up dancing for about 6 or so hours straight. I felt great the whole time, however on Monday it definitely felt as if though I had a slight discomfort in my chest. Not necessarily chest pains, but a feeling like my heart was tired after working so hard a few days before.

Hope this helped in some way. Wish you all the best.
 
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