Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
People need to be psychologically coerced into practicing basic things that we've known work since the Spanish flu?
Was the Vaccine Designed to kill
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You're missing the point, and I have no idea what you're actually referring to either given the mRNA vaccines are new technology.
No doctor in good conscience should have been prescribing the vaccines to anyone, and certainly no one under the age of 60, given what was known at the time about the vaccines themselves and also the statistical data already available regarding who was at risk. What overrides their judgement is the educational conditioning, the money, and the regulatory pressure, as discussed previously.
Unfortunately they are the ones who are going to get blamed should the truth come out. Rishi Sunak was on GB News the other day and basically admitted as much when two audience members hounded him about the damage the vaccines caused them personally. Governments will just throw all the doctors under the bus in an attempt to save their own skins should it come down to it.
No doctor in good conscience should have been prescribing the vaccines to anyone, and certainly no one under the age of 60, given what was known at the time about the vaccines themselves and also the statistical data already available regarding who was at risk. What overrides their judgement is the educational conditioning, the money, and the regulatory pressure, as discussed previously.
Unfortunately they are the ones who are going to get blamed should the truth come out. Rishi Sunak was on GB News the other day and basically admitted as much when two audience members hounded him about the damage the vaccines caused them personally. Governments will just throw all the doctors under the bus in an attempt to save their own skins should it come down to it.
nepalnt21
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i literally don't do this, please back that wild claim up with evidence.
(speaking of dogma... lol u just make shit up in your head about me)
nepalnt21
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there you go again, just making shit up.
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Esoteric thinking... the polite term for psychotic.
Don't expect someone experiencing paranoid delusions to respond to sane argument. FLICC is their go-to response because cognitive dissonance is more distressing than conflict.
Reaching out to ANYONE who shares the delusion is understandable. The need for vindication is a significant stressor.
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nepalnt21
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it makes sense that they'd accuse others of "dogmatic" thinking;
it's like the social engineering technique:
~if you want to know how someone feels about something, ask them how they think people at large feel about that something~
they think everyone else thinks like them (in tribal, dogmatic ways) but then they also somehow believe that they are more correct, have that "esoteric" knowledge.
i'm just spitballing here, but it makes sense to me.
reminds me of flat earthers... do they just like feeling cool and superior with their awesome rare cool esoteric misinfo?
it's like the social engineering technique:
~if you want to know how someone feels about something, ask them how they think people at large feel about that something~
they think everyone else thinks like them (in tribal, dogmatic ways) but then they also somehow believe that they are more correct, have that "esoteric" knowledge.
i'm just spitballing here, but it makes sense to me.
reminds me of flat earthers... do they just like feeling cool and superior with their awesome rare cool esoteric misinfo?
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I don't know if it's an ego trip or merely someone suffering from a serious mental illness.
But that NEED to assert facts by employing FLICC is usually a sign of stress. Believe me, I've had to manage people suffering from schizophrenia and their is nothing more outlandish than someone prepared to die on a hill for some odd but honestly held belief.
So anyone who disagrees is either a fool or part of the conspiracy.. I've had more than one person on BL convinced I was just an AI program... which I found insulting since it's not like AI is really any good.
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
so what is the point?
what is the conspiracy behind mRNA technology?
it's designed to do what? and don't tell me kill people
like dude, I get being skeptical of vaccines, I also understand being upset about mandates... but it's nothing more than a vaccine
it was pushed out and I'm sure pharma companies lobbied for mandates so they can become wealthy, but that's about it. That's where the rabbit hole ends, unless you're delusional.
also it's not new technology, it's 20 year old tech, it's just never been tested at such a scale.
so now you speak on behalf of doctors everywhere? because you watched a few obscure videos on youtube/facebook?
give me break man
the notion of that is ridiculous
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I think someone made a good point that mRNA had a problem - it required a very specific emulsion and someone famous in that field finally cracked it.
But their are 11 or 12 different vaccines and most are not mRNA so it's a delusion to say their is one vaccine.
But their are a dozen COVID conspiracy theories from 5G to bioweapon to COVID not existing. Amazing. It's a bioweapon that doesn't exist. Schrodinger's conspiracy.
But their are 11 or 12 different vaccines and most are not mRNA so it's a delusion to say their is one vaccine.
But their are a dozen COVID conspiracy theories from 5G to bioweapon to COVID not existing. Amazing. It's a bioweapon that doesn't exist. Schrodinger's conspiracy.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
The goalpost kept shifting. It was a conspiracy that was freestyled as they went.
If you can't name the perpetrator or their devious designs, then the conspiracy can just keep evolving.
Covid conspiracy people are a lot like UFO/alien people. They want the conspiracy to be true so badly, that they take on gargantuan levels of cognitive bias. They are so obsessed with the conspiracy itself, that they ignore facts or reason, because they want the conspiracy to be true. It starts to define their reality.
I'm really into conspiracies and UFO stuff myself, but I'm not delusional.
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That's a cardinal sign - that the goal-posts keep moving. People ARE making money from these conspiracy theories which I find deeply repugnant. Preying on the mentally ill.
The UFO stuff is interesting because of course it could be research aircraft. It's just OFFICIALLY unidentified. But look at Paul Bennewitz. It's arguable that he was used as a locus of disinformation and he wound up in a psychiatric hospital.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
The UFO stuff has always been 95% bullshit from the beginning. But that 5% that can't be explained is remarkably interesting.
The field of UFO research is just so congested with bullshit it can be difficult to sift through.
It's not arguable, it's a documented fact that it happened. Richard Doty has made plenty of stuff admitting it.
Whether Bennewitz was mentally ill beforehand or during the disinformation campaign is not very clear, but I believe he probably was.
He is probably not the first case of this happening either.
UFOs are an amazingly convenient cover story for advanced military technology.
The point is that mRNA and nano-lipid particle technology is a whole new frontier. It's not the same as conventional vaccines, in that it is directly working with the machinery of our own cellular technology. As opposed to injecting a concoction of viral components in live-attenuated vaccines.
I've said before here many times, I don't know what is (or isn't) in these jabs - so I can't answer your question of 'designed to do what'. For me it is simply a matter of trust and risk/reward ratio. And I don't trust that there isn't something fundamentally screwy with these jabs (details below), and as for risk/reward ratio that is a no brainer for a guy like me in his thirties who is extremely healthy and gets ill once in a blue moon.. for a disease that is predominantly only killing those 80+ or with severe existing conditions.
I've also said here many times I believe the pandemic is a complete charade, nothing more than carefully crafted propaganda and statistical trickery facading over the top of real existing illnesses and conditions - this is why I continually bring up the Influenza rates dropping to near zero and the testing regime. Now given I believe this, and therefore it extends that the people at the top also surely understand this as well, then you can surely see why I would never get these jabs. If there is nothing to be vaccinated against, then there's a chance that there is in fact something screwy with the jabs. It could just be about money, true. I mean they manufacture wars out of nothing in order to generate weapons sales. But would they really go all in on something like this, just for money?
Maybe there's nothing in the jabs that shouldn't be there. Maybe it's a funky botched product like so much other shite in our modern world. Maybe some is saline. Who the fuck knows. It doesn't matter to me, because I'm never going to gamble my health on such an inherently ridiculous proposition to begin with. Even under a strictly conventional narrative, there is zero risk to someone like me. Zero. I literally have no reason to take it.
Never have I gone around making bold claims about knowing what is (potentially) in these jabs. I have also stated I would not be surprised in the slightest if there was actually some military technology in them, or at the very least something that shouldn't be there. I mean it's a perfect opportunity for free population testing, especially given they have no liability for consequences.
Given how many evil scumbags there are in the world, would you be willing to stake your life on the belief that there isn't something in them, that it's all just about money? I think it's delusional to assume there is zero chance there isn't something in them. Maybe there isn't. But again, the entire setup stinks to high fucking heaven. It stinks. Never in my life have I seen such a clear case of it.
Doctors are under oath. They should not be pumping experimental products into the population when they don't need it. You can argue the case for elderly people if you like and I would understand that point of view, but the statistical data is unequivocal.. no one under the age of 60 actually needed it at all. And when you get down <18 years old then any doctor participating in such actions has completely betrayed their oath and sold out their reason and mortality quite frankly.
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I appreciate that man, and understand. I'm the same way. I think the need for the vaccine in normal healthy people was nowhere near as big as mandating vaccines.
But you also have to realize that this pandemic was new. I don't think scientists or governments knew just how bad, or how benign it might be, so they took the precautionary path.
Back in 2020 and 2021 we really had no idea how bad covid continue to be.
They wanted to protect the proletariat so they can continue to govern from their high chairs.
delusion
so you'd rather take your chances on a man-made virus than a man-made cure?
not sure I see the logic
no they are not... the hippocratic oath is a formality, not legally binding. The hippocratic oath makes you swear to a bunch of Greek healing Gods, not some legal paperwork, lol.
obviously you can't intentionally harm patients, or do dangerously bad work, but there is nothing wrong with doctors treating their patients in any way they see fit.
yes
would you also believe that a few doctors out there make up some bullshit about vaccines being dangers... for money? for views?
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Sorry - but someone displaying all the cardinal symptoms of schizophrenia is not someone whose 'truth;' I feel I can rely on.
I have actually attempted to use reasoned argument but no this is a person who needs medication. And neuroleptics are really nasty medicines so I so I do not take pleasure in having to say this.
Pity is the appropriate emotion.
My sister is immunocompromised and that inability to consider someone else's position IS a cardinal symptom. No interest in how someone arrived at a position - just an increasingly desperate need to ASSERT their truth on others. It's sad and I bear no malice. I hope the guy gets well.
Resorting to pure spite was pretty sad to witness. EVERYONE on BL will see it.
I have actually attempted to use reasoned argument but no this is a person who needs medication. And neuroleptics are really nasty medicines so I so I do not take pleasure in having to say this.
Pity is the appropriate emotion.
My sister is immunocompromised and that inability to consider someone else's position IS a cardinal symptom. No interest in how someone arrived at a position - just an increasingly desperate need to ASSERT their truth on others. It's sad and I bear no malice. I hope the guy gets well.
Resorting to pure spite was pretty sad to witness. EVERYONE on BL will see it.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
honestly I wish the vaccine DID kill me, so I didn't have to listen to any more of this schizoid bullshit
it's always been hilarious to me that the people who DID NOT take the vaccine are the first to scream about ridiculous vaccine side effects on the internet
its almost like some child who has never done LSD trying to tell you what LSD is like
"LSD stays in your spinal fluid for life!! it makes you clinically insane!!!!!"
it's always been hilarious to me that the people who DID NOT take the vaccine are the first to scream about ridiculous vaccine side effects on the internet
its almost like some child who has never done LSD trying to tell you what LSD is like
"LSD stays in your spinal fluid for life!! it makes you clinically insane!!!!!"
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Bluelighter
No, it's pity we should feel. Someone so deeply invested in a delusion with so much cognitive dissonance that they NEED it to be true. Their entire world is validated by them being ;'special' and 'seeing through the matrix' and 'all those evil medical professionals seek to harm people...'
THAT is the pity. Likely it will only when something bad happens and they are sectioned will their be treatment.
THAT is the pity. Likely it will only when something bad happens and they are sectioned will their be treatment.
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