You keep hearing it because you're wrong, that's why.
Oh yeah, how exactly -?
The underlying biotechnology of mRNA delivery systems may have already been developed and tested, but the active biological particulars of this concoction certainly hadn't.
You're already missing the point here. I'm not talking specifically about the MRNA vaccine, which HAS had reported unexpected complications that I would not even attempt to deny.
It doesn't matter if SARS is 'similar'
The extremely particular point I was making is that one of the basic reasons the vaccine could be developed in a short time frame, was that scientists already had some relevant data to hand. NO, a related virus is not the SAME virus. But it operates in a similar way when it comes to cell infiltration, how it replicates, and how it affects the organism.
Literally all I was saying is that the fast development was not 'suspicious' in that the people working on it had a viral 'blueprint' to go by and orient their work on. They were not encountering an entirely unstudied type of pathogen.
They conducted short term studies. That's all, because that's literally all the time they had available. So the 'rushed' argument is correct, because no medium or long-term studies were conducted.
You apparently misunderstand the process of how a vaccine is developed. .There are specific stages involved which recruit progressively larger numbers of clinical volunteers, and there's a minimum number of participants you need for each stage to be considered valid. It's not a matter of time but of numbers. The numbers were met in line with standard protocol.
The time in between clinical trial stages in 'normal' vaccine development is not spent in 'medium or long-term studies'. It's spent in bureaucratic processes which make it very laborious to apply, and get approved for, each successive stage of testing. It's these time-consuming processes that were slashed, not the rigour in carrying out each phase. Evaluating the test data as in came in, instead of only after final completion, also contributed to speeding up the development as I've already said. Every clinical standard was adhered to.
Follow-up studies are follow-up studies. Ie an entirely seperate branch of investigation which comes AFTER some medical intervention has been developed and authorised. And as every medical intervention carries an element of risk, the full effects can usually not be known for a while. That's why there is such a thing as continued monitoring. None of this is new, or uniquely applies to the covid vaccines.
On top of the fact that covid was a fucking nothing burger
OH? You base this pronouncement on fucking WHAT -?
That you personally never contracted it? Or that you did contract it but were lucky enough to suffer no long-term consequences? That nobody in your circle of friends and family got it bad?
FOR. FUCKS. SAKE.
Are you seriously discounting the CERTIFIED death toll worldwide? Or the research into the disease over the last 3 + years which is telling us that while the most common symptoms may present as any other respiratory illness, the true damage is done in the cardiovascular and neurological systems?
We have known for a while now the virus will attack the endothelium, ie the lining of blood vessels, and that it affects clotting. Most of the first victims in fact died from abnormal blood clotting in their lungs, meaning no matter how much oxygen was pumped into them, they were no longer physically able to take it up.
We know that infection with covid significantly ups your chances of suffering a heart attack or a stroke even months later. We know that it can DIRECTLY affect the brain and impair basic neurological functions. We know each successive infection, no matter how negligible the acute symptoms, categorically increases your chances of complications.
People have permanently lost their sight, hearing, taste and smell to this virus. Young healthy people with zero risk factors have dropped dead from sudden heart attack or stroke after a 'mild' infection. It presents as respiratory at the onset but it's a systemic disease that can attack absolutely any organ in the body.
There are numerous accounts of performance athletes who are bedridden in their twenties after contracting it. There's been an uptick in people diagnosed with auto-immune disorders that were triggered by a covid infection. (Other viruses do this as well, but with corona it's a much higher percentage.)
Check out some long covid / post-viral syndrome studies sometime and see how many countless individuals had their lives ruined from this allegedly 'nothing burger' of a disease.
Yeah you're PROBABLY gonna be fine in the grand total of things. You PROBABLY won't suffer long-term symptoms, statistically. Good for you. But you obviously don't give a fuck about KNOWN FACTS, nor about attempting to shield those more vulnerable than you.
I don't need to make a solid case, for YOU. It's perfectly valid to speculate. J
You DO need to make a case. Not for ME, but in general terms. Sure it's 'valid' to speculate. But if you're gonna claim something outlandish and assert that claim as fact, it's on you to prove yourself right. Not on those who doubt your assertion to prove you wrong.
.. You're another one of those who can't get a handle on how the 'burden of proof' works, aren't you.
ust because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't preclude the possibility that it might actually have some validity.
It doesn't make me 'uncomfortable'. It makes me ENRAGED when I can follow patient histories and then see people like you blithely discarding all those massive health complications and suffering as 'not real' , because it won't fit your chosen narrative of it's supposedly 'just a cold'. Hey, wouldn't we ALL love to blithely go about our daily lives like this shit never happened, or wasn't as serious, or wasn't still going on. I certainly would. But that's called denial.
You obviously haven't looked hard enough either. Prince Philip, Boris Johnson (and his father Stanley), are all on record saying there are too many people on this planet. As are various American and European power figures.
Pointless argument. Anyone with any sense can tell you that the planet is currently overpopulated with humans. We're not doing our own species any favours. Somebody observing that glaringly obvious fact doesn't equate to that same person having some super secret population reduction plan in place. Because being a thoroughly corrupt product of insane privilege still doesn't automatically turn you into a Bond villain.
The British establishment in particular believes it,
I personally don't give a fuck what the 'British Establishment' believes. I don't found my worldview on the opinions of a bunch of inbred exploiters.
Climate change is the ideological vehicle they're using, literally right now, to try and reshape the global order. Or have you been living under a rock?
Climate change is a real measurable thing that is actively happening. And combating it DOESN'T require a drastic reduction of the global population as yet, merely a better allocation / distribution of common resources, and more sustainable energy policies.
But OH NO that would be 'socialism', the apparently ultimate evil.
Also, given the prevailing general attitude of hyper-capitalists towards both their fellow human beings as well as the natural environment, I wouldn't expect any type of 'population control' from that lot.
Rather 'grow the population to disaster levels so I get the maximum amount of potential customers to screw the maximum amount of profit from. And so long as I'VE lived the high life, the world can end after me.'
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