Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

[Zopiclone bandit]

Gonna send to the Dive

Says it all right away

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Really killer..

• Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. More than 650 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 16, 2022. During this time, VAERS received 17,537 preliminary reports of death (0.0027%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. Continued monitoring has identified nine deaths causally associated with J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. CDC and FDA continue to review reports of death following COVID-19 vaccination and update information as it becomes available https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Chances of death in a given year of a IV drug user.. all drugs iv
2.35 out of 100 py or 2.35%

Mortality among people who inject drugs: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

To systematically review cohort studies of mortality among people who inject drugs, examine mortality rates and causes of death in this group, and identify participant- and study-level variables associated with a higher risk of death. Tailored ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Exactly.
Death rate among the population who took the vaccine: 0.0027%
Death rate among the population who did not take the vaccine: 2%

You are 741 times more likely to die if you haven't had the vaccine vs if you have

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

It does go both ways historically, I agree, but currently in the U.S. it's extremely one direction throughout our important institutions, and that worries me

The U.S.A. has a weirdly THIS or THAT mentality on most things. Like, the recent abortion stuff, for example. All I've heard any Americans talk about is pro-life or pro-choice...like, everywhere else we would [well we wouldn't fucking ban abortion in the first place, but] debate things like how many weeks into pregnancy should it be allowed, or under what circumstances etc. Americans don't seem to understand nuance or shades of grey.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I'm a cactus, not a troll.

Further, it's pretty rich that you're sitting here casting shade at me for 'propaganda' when there is literally evidence we can all see and feel, as well as track and study, indicating that significant climatological shifts have occurred in a specific and predictable manner which is consistent with temperature increases that are more severe than they would be if there was not the large scale burning of fossil fuels, and the constant consumption of non-renewable power.

You're fighting the wrong people, and the wrong battles guys, I'm sorry to say. Maybe it feels better to fight the 'big bad' because you've become so socialized by comic books to only have the capacity for nuance delivered as big good vs big bad, but that's not how things work. Evil is complex, nuanced, and diffuse. What's a greater evil, however, is the ignorance and indifference you hide behind.

Tractus

 

[someguyontheinternet]

The U.S.A. has a weirdly THIS or THAT mentality on most things. Like, the recent abortion stuff, for example. All I've heard any Americans talk about is pro-life or pro-choice...like, everywhere else we would [well we wouldn't fucking ban abortion in the first place, but] debate things like how many weeks into pregnancy should it be allowed, or under what circumstances etc. Americans don't seem to understand nuance or shades of grey.

The weird part about abortion is that if prolife people actually believed that abortion is truly murder then they wouldn't have any provisions for rape, ectopic pregnancy, or any other exceptions based on length of time but that's not what we see because they know it's bullshit they're just trying to rile people up to get more votes and that kind of shit ruins discourse

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

It's like nobody in this thread made it past the grade where you learn that correlation does not equal causation

"Violent crime increases during heatwaves.
Ice cream sales increase during heatwaves.
Therefor, Ice cream causes violence" - the type of logical fallacy a lot of people seem to be using.

 

[AlsoTapered]

US culture IS so often based on black and white thinking (also referred to as all-or-nothing thinking) - splitting is the term psychologists use.

I'm sure you can search for Roland Fairbairn who coined the term. But it's a trait seen in adolescence but in adults it's regarded as a cardinal symptom of borderline personality disorder. The latter is described in the DSM.

Borderline Personality Disorder - DSM-5 and ICD-11 Diagnostic Criteria

Borderline personality disorder criteria for DSM-5, ICD-11 includes personality functioning impairments with pathological personality traits.

psychscenehub.com

Seems frighteningly accurate to me.

 

[PtahTek]

If it were it gives all an easy way out of all this madness.
Just sayin'

 

[AlsoTapered]

If it were it gives all an easy way out of all this madness.
Just sayin'

Symptoms of borderline personality include being emotionally unstable, having upsetting thoughts and acting without thinking.

The main treatment for borderline personality disorder is a type of talking therapy called psychotherapy.

The cause of borderline personality disorder is unclear. It's been linked to traumatic events during childhood, such as neglect or abuse.

So ,not EASY.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Symptoms of borderline personality include being emotionally unstable, having upsetting thoughts and acting without thinking.

The main treatment for borderline personality disorder is a type of talking therapy called psychotherapy.

The cause of borderline personality disorder is unclear. It's been linked to traumatic events during childhood, such as neglect or abuse.

So ,not EASY.

There is some research saying that there are issues with opioid signaling and possibly oxytocin although the root mechanistic causes are still unclear and it may be partially genetic but there are also some environmental/upbringing risk factors

 

[thujone]

It's more like arguing about the definition of air travel when before it was only a blimp but the airplane just got invented

what if you have no need to travel anywhere but you're still being herded onto a plane against your will, and when you protest, people disregard you and just keep screaming "the plane is safe, the plane is safe!"

Do you think vaccines have remained the same since Jenner first demonstrated them in 1776? There are many different methodologies. When purified polysaccharides were first used in 1923, did the definition of vaccine change? When purified proteins were first used in 1970, did the definition of vaccine change? When the first chemically engineered vaccine was introduced in 1963, did the definition of vaccine change?

The technologies behind vaccines has been undergoing constant change and improvement for 250 odd years.

As for mRNA - it's been under development since the late 1980s... I feel that in 35+ years of development, they have but in an enormous amount of work to ensure safety. Yes, LONG before covid several companies were developing mRNA medicines. It was the production costs that prevented their use, not a safety concern.

The great things about science are that it doesn't care about your opinion or my opinion. To be given a patent the developers have to provide sufficient detail to prove:

1)The compound and/or usage are novel
2)Sufficient detail is supplied so that another facility with the appropriate apparatus can replicate the experiments.
3)Studies carried out before the patent was accepted are published,

That means that anyone with the appropriate resources and skills can repeat the synthesis and repeat all of the experiments used to ensure safety.

there were length trials for all the previous vaccines and this one was fast-tracked, then a bunch of people lied about how safe the vaccine were, and people are still trying to lie about the safety of these vaccines despite information about serious side-effects in the Pfizer documents that were released.

this is a perfect sample of how easily manipulated we are as a society - the documents are public and people are still "following the science" to conclusions that are simply not supported by the evidence.

can't very well blame the rest of us for any exaggerations contrary to the science (bless) when the "experts" have spent the whole pandemic shooting from the hip and then retconning the facts every time their theories turned out to be wrong.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

what if you have no need to travel anywhere but you're still being herded onto a plane against your will, and when you protest, people disregard you and just keep screaming "the plane is safe, the plane is safe!"

The only people screaming are the ones who have swallowed the antivax propaganda, the rest of us listen to the statistics and evidence.

Exactly.
Death rate among the population who took the vaccine: 0.0027%
Death rate among the population who did not take the vaccine: 2%

You are 741 times more likely to die if you haven't had the vaccine vs if you have

Here since you missed it

 

[PtahTek]

Symptoms of borderline personality include being emotionally unstable, having upsetting thoughts and acting without thinking.

The main treatment for borderline personality disorder is a type of talking therapy called psychotherapy.

The cause of borderline personality disorder is unclear. It's been linked to traumatic events during childhood, such as neglect or abuse.

So ,not EASY.

I have at some point been "diagnosed" with all the above and more... a lot more.
Trauma.
After trauma.
After f-in trauma.
Yeah... Not easy.
Therapists helped with perspectives insights and tools but it's up to us to actually execute the "plan".
My therapist left to have more of an impact on the community at large and especially the children. There are others and I hope to find another competent one soon.

How was your post a response to what I posted?

 

[AlsoTapered]

I have at some point been "diagnosed" with all the above and more... a lot more.
Trauma.
After trauma.
After f-in trauma.
Yeah... Not easy.
Therapists helped with perspectives insights and tools but it's up to us to actually execute the "plan".
My therapist left to have more of an impact on the community at large and especially the children. There are others and I hope to find another competent one soon.

How was your post a response to what I posted?

No - I wasn't suggesting you are ANY point. Firstly I didn't know and secondly, if I knew, I hope I am a better person than someone who would seek to attack you in any way.

I was referring to an ex-US president.

 

[Foreigner]

Billionaires are not in the same league as the trillionaire/system owner class. Money is not equal to power.

How would you know when medical professionals are indoctrinated not to look for correlations indicating vaccine damage, when it has only been 2 years or so since the rollout started, when damage might be internal that you can't immediately register especially if it is working on the nano/genetic scale, and those who might have just died from the damage who obviously wouldn't be presenting with anything because they're already dead.

Your bias is self evident in this quoted text. Both sentences are based off vague assumptions.

I have not been ill since before the pandemic. No mask. No jabs. Associating with those who were working in schools with cases. Picking my nose. Rubbing my eyeballs. It's fucking bollocks and I'm tired of this idiotic covid belief system that allows medical professionals to excuse the sick lifestyles everyone leads these days, lumping people under this giant umbrella diagnosis based on a completely bullshit testing model and ignoring the fact that the majority of people do get ill regularly because their lifestyles are absolute garbage and they are garbage people inside and out.

You know this is true because the government/media deliberately chose to ignore the fact that the majority who were dying were the very elderly, in the UK the average age of covid mortality was above the national average age of mortality (82), and also those who were obese and already very ill. They also printed bullshit scare stories in their propaganda rags about young body builder types and athletically fit people dying of covid, stories about children with some foot/skin condition, and all the rest.

I'm tired of people like you who work in a supposed professional capacity who do not apply a professional level of critical thinking to your domain of work. EDIT: This doesn't just apply to those in the medical field, it is pervasive across our entire society: academics, journalists, law enforcement, politicians, etc.

I don't see and feel anything different in regards to weather at all. This statement just reveals the type of mental processes going on in your head, courtesy of the government.

I just came back here to compliment you on how clear-seeing you are. There are many levels to what is going on but you're seeing at the very top of it all, for the most part. Particularly the owners of the economic system. Centuries of wealthy families and oligarchs did not just give up their power, they restructured it. I also work in medicine, will probably be going to medical school soon as well to become a doctor. (Side note, I want to be a doctor outside of the western world, I don't have much interest in living/working in the corporate countries anymore.)

To me, the behaviours of the ruling class are not surprising. They are psycho, twisted and demented. Their way of seeing the world has held us back for centuries. We are still pretty much living in the dark ages. The pandemic, however, made me much more depressed because of the gullibility of the general population. I thought there were more critical thinkers out there, but it turns out there are way, way less than I thought. People who I thought were intelligent completely bought into this crap, and even turned on me when I urged them to think more deeply.

Here in Canada, the courts have all defeated challenges to pandemic policy. We are still in a "state of emergency" to this day. This whole thing has been top-down it's very obvious that information, power and wealth is controlled from the very very top, above government even. The Commonwealth nations especially, are still basically just discreet monarchies. Our so-called democracies are theatre. The U.S. may be a mild exception, but barely. In Canada, right now, there is literally no mechanism or check-and-balance of power to stop this from happening again. Every system of power here has sided with the scam. I knew there was deep rot and top-level control, but I think I underestimated it until the pandemic happened.

They ideologically purged all major institutions of one ideology and replaced it with another, within 2-3 years tops. It happened so fast.

I really think this world is doomed, don't you? It's next to impossible to get people to see. I have participated in so many threads like this over the years. The people who already see are all there is. The ones who don't see, generally never see. Here in Canada, right now, the major backlash is that people just don't feel like getting more boosters. The uptake is very low. There is so little discussion about what a giant scam it was. The population is only just now establishing the entry-level thought of, "I am tired of getting vaccines. I don't want anymore. They don't feel good. Covid is with us now, it's not going away, I shouldn't have to get anymore." The thought process does not go deeper than that.

I just finished studying university immunology this past summer. It was hard, very hard. Applying that knowledge to the "peer-reviewed" research I have been reading on covid vaccines, my mind is blown by how transparently bad the science has been. Between the statistical flaws and the blatant manipulation of immunology understanding, it is corrupted to the core. It has to be intentional. I can't imagine PhDs in immunology publishing this stuff and actually thinking it's true. Perhaps they are just doing it to avoid being purged from their careers, or losing their grant money. But the fact that they can tell such big lies in the plain light of day now... there's no attempt to even hide it anymore, or couch it in something else. They just straight up lie.

And everyone believes them. And if you point out the lie, you get your life destroyed.

 

[Foreigner]

Exactly.
Death rate among the population who took the vaccine: 0.0027%
Death rate among the population who did not take the vaccine: 2%

You are 741 times more likely to die if you haven't had the vaccine vs if you have

The systemic collection of that data is full of corrupt biases. They made no distinction between people who died from covid and people who died with covid. They also generally treated the unvaccinated like shit in the hospitals. Unvaxed people got deprioritized care as punishment for not being good little lemmings. I have read so many reports. So the unvaxed who go to hospitals are more likely to die due to being hated by the staff. Furthermore, the latest variant (Aug-Sept 2023) is more deadly to the vaccinated, this info has already hit the mainstream.

The CDC and NIH in the USA already admitted in the senate hearings that covid death statistics were improperly collected and there were no attempts to rectify the data as it was being reviewed during the collection process. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

People who were in no danger of being harmed by the virus had their health risk level substantially increased by taking the vaccine. Young men, for example, increased their heart disease risk rate by 500% (that's 5x) by getting double jabbed.

Doctors are not properly recording vaccine ADRs. They are afraid to lose their jobs by doing so. Most of what we know about the covid vax ADRs comes from self-reporting, and there are millions of reports. And the background death rate in all the highly vaccinated countries is 20-25x normal. In Canada, the background death rate for under 40 y/o is currently 25x higher than normal. The ruling class is blaming it on the ailing health care system and the lack of medical prevention/diagnosis during the pandemic. They're fucking lying.

 

[thujone]

Here since you missed it

I didn't miss it, I just don't believe it.

first of all, that data requires autopsies. how common are those?

many otherwise healthy people are suffering heart-related issues since innoculation with the mRNA juice and there are two salient facts here - 1) the spike protein is physiologically harmful and 2) the mRNA juice makes your body continually produce them for months.

this has nothing to do with antivax propaganda. likely that propaganda is so pervasive because a lot of people can smell something funny with the pandemic response and feel that we were dragooned into taking a vaccine regardless of what the side-effects.

they just didn't give a goddamn and if this is the standard going forward then sooner or later there will be a vaccine that does enough harm that you can't ignore it.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

The only people screaming are the ones who have swallowed the antivax propaganda, the rest of us listen to the statistics and evidence.

Here since you missed it

Missed what?

 

[Mjäll]

Missed what?

He referenced your post for what the other guy missed

 

[-=SS=-]

The pandemic, however, made me much more depressed because of the gullibility of the general population. I thought there were more critical thinkers out there, but it turns out there are way, way less than I thought. People who I thought were intelligent completely bought into this crap, and even turned on me when I urged them to think more deeply.

I can live with others lack of intelligence and/or dimly lit self-awareness, but it's when they become a momentum that the state can weaponize that I start to get off balance. There was a moment when Boris Johnson and the EU simultaneously stated we 'might need to have a conversation about compulsory vaccination', that made me quite agitated because it's a hill I'm prepared to die on.

Existential depression has been lingering in the background of my personality since I was a teenager, due to the Iraq war and 9/11. At least with those I could work through the agitation, because unfortunately "out of sight out of mind".. Iraqis being slaughtered and their country ruined doesn't affect me personally. Mandatory, or compulsory vaccination, would affect me personally. My greatest worry with the jabs, beyond the implications discussed in this thread, is that I have this sneaky suspicion there is actually some mind control technology baked into them. I'd rather die with dignity and crucially my mental facility in tact, I do not want to be robbed of both life and the right to experience death completely.

I really think this world is doomed, don't you? It's next to impossible to get people to see. I have participated in so many threads like this over the years. The people who already see are all there is. The ones who don't see, generally never see. Here in Canada, right now, the major backlash is that people just don't feel like getting more boosters. The uptake is very low. There is so little discussion about what a giant scam it was.

Barring some miracle, yeah pretty much. It's very difficult to conceive of how we get out in front again when they hold all the cards. All we really have left is people power and the hope that nature will throw us a bone, which would be justified really.. how the hell can we compete with a global technological military apparatus that can find anyone on Earth and probably even kill them from space now.

If it doesn't work out for us, so be it. I just hope if they succeed in their plans, whatever the ultimate aim is, that nature opens up the Earth and swallows everyone.