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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

I don't know if these vaccines were designed specifically to kill, but damn the side effects are heart-stopping (and blood-thickening).
yeah, almost as serious as the side effects of the virus itself. well, if a level of magnitude less is 'almost'...
 
How does it feel to be on the side of the pharmaceutical industry, the banks, and the rest of the establishment?
let's say you're in the hospital with some rare, deadly disease, the ONLY lifesaving medicine available for you was made by pfizer...

you'd refuse the meds, letting yourself die for the cause???

i applaud you, a true hero- martyr at heart.

i mean, that would RREEALLY stick it to the man.
 
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let's say you're in the hospital with some rare, deadly disease, the ONLY lifesaving medicine available for you was made by pfizer...

you'd refuse the meds, letting yourself die for the cause???

i applaud you, a true hero- martyr at heart.

i mean, that would RREEALLY stick it to the man.
Not if it was tested and had phase 3 trials like most Medicine has. Conflating the gene therapy shots with all rigorously tested pharmaceutical products is like the ultimate cope. Which I enjoy, I like seeing folx cope, it’s a guilty pleasure.
 
some of us know how to put money on the safer bet.

billions of ppl have had the vaxx, hundreds of millions have had covid.

millions have died of covid, and how many deaths can be reasonably attributed to the vaccines? like less than 20? certainly less than a hundred, last i had heard (a year or two ago) it was 8.

have fun with your viral roullette.

also, calling it 'gene therapy' as though it's changing everyone's genome (which is usually what gene therapy means) is misleading.
 
So if the covid shots are so good, and covid is as dangerous as you claim, then why hasn't Africa had a big problem with covid when a high amount of them haven't taken the shots?
 
Errrm safe bet, billions of people vaccinated, uuuhhh you’ve taken other meds that have gone through the appropriate trials, you’ll be sorry when your dead
 
Lol, this thread got shadowbanned but that doesn't happen around here

Should just stand strong and remove it instead of a passive aggressive action
This isn’t shocking lol. One time back in the lounge days, I wasn’t technically breaking any rules so they put my ip in some sort spam filter. Was a pain to get them to undo it, basically had to beg. This admin is far better, but I could see why they don’t won’t this on the front page. Wrong think topics bring unwanted attention from glowies and aren’t good for advertisers.
 
I just think this proves the point if there is nothing wrong with the vaccine why can’t we discuss it?
why all the secrecy?
just because they fear creating vaccine hesitancy?
shit like this looks more suspicious to me
if there was nothing wrong they would let everyone voice all their fears
facui wouldn’t have said don’t do autopsies
don‘t do autopsies while we roll out an experimental vaccine on a gene sequence delivery platform that has never successfully been used before
you would think the scientists would want the safety signals for their data but nope they don’t want the data
that’s weird that’s wrong
glad that shits not in my body
I constantly wake up in the morning and just feel blessed not to have any experimental juice flowing around in my body.
This all feels like it was a basic intelligence test, a way to weed out the useless eaters. But in that same breath, they are forcing kids at these elite colleges to get the newest shot. Many of the folks that run this planet have their kids at these places. It’s hard to know what’s happening, but we can sleep easy knowing we made the right decision.
 
Not even snaffy makes pro vax arguments anymore, at least he came around , I figured it was only a matter of time, but this guy, I’m not sure he’ll ever wake up n smell the clotted blood
 
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Not even snaffy makes pro vax arguments anymore, at least he came around , I figured it was only a matter of time
It’s wild that liberals shill this hard for pharmaceutical products, I have a feeling they deep down know they are wrong. But they haven’t gotten the update yet to be able to acknowledge it.
 
This isn’t shocking lol. One time back in the lounge days, I wasn’t technically breaking any rules so they put my ip in some sort spam filter. Was a pain to get them to undo it, basically had to beg. This admin is far better, but I could see why they don’t won’t this on the front page. Wrong think topics bring unwanted attention from glowies and aren’t good for advertisers.
I figured it out. I put Opiate Killer on ignore because watching his history/development is depressing, so it ignored the thread he started (this thread). Nothing out of the ordinary except me being dumb
 
I understand if people here dont take me 100% seriously lol i dont think i would either i have enjoyed readintg this thread but let me tell you I have had a lot of bad flus, cold in fact I Always get ill this time of year except this year i got ill earlier than normal around september/october time anyway I woke up felt a bit down and was told I by college I needed to get tested and low and behold I tested positive anyway I have never gone from feeling ill to straight up worrying about dying in my life honestly I swear on my dads grave I thought I was gonna die at one point the fever was so bad I was talking gibberish and I couldnt string sentances together(not that made sense anyway) in my head or out my mouth I would catch myself having conversations with people who wasnt there or just talking shit when waking up from the fever and that fucking fever wasnt even the worst the worst was my chest and heart(I presume) killing and then slowly but surely aches and pains that make withdrawal look like a joke spreading all over my body until EVERY SINGLE bone was inflamed and ached and this was agony because my lower back bones were aching now to meaning I couldnt do anything to stop it or get releif for a few minutes by turning over this was the peak of it and i slowly got better then I reached in the draw and took some heroin and forced myself to smoke it and ignore the throat irritation and it did help a lot oh and I already had 1 vaccine but no boosters so I honestly dont know what to make of it but before that I was kind of anti vax maybe I still am the point isnt about being anti vax the point is covid is no fucking joke Idk what strain I was infected with but it was a nasty fucker I may not be the healthiest person but I am only 26 usually colds and bugs only last 12-24 with me but covid was another beast and I really did think about calling an ambulance or something just my 2 cence
 
From someone who has a A+ gcse in history if you guys wanna know a real conspiracy theory that is true and I dont care if you laugh at me the spanish flu was released by the axis troops in ww1 to slow the americans but they coverd it up because obv the world would be pissed think about it they had poision gas and everything else they were much more developed in ugenics by then than people think history doesnt lie my friends
 
Hahaha…. Honestly, I was going to reply to this thread more thoroughly but it’s pointless. People who debate only become more entrenched in their views than being open to information from “the other side”.

My personal view is that the vaccine is safe but yes, there are side effects we didn’t see from the trial (for obvious reasons). One being the effect on some women’s menstrual cycle (I was also in this group) which resolves usually after a few months (I am however seeing instances where issues have continued for a longer period). No evidence at all to suggest fertility has been affected and I don’t expect to see any.

Vaccines have side effects, it’s par for the course. It’s about weighing up the risk of getting a vaccine (that has been developed by scientists the world over who came together to find a solution to covid) or getting a new virus that is not only killing people but leaving people with long lasting side effects.

I hear it all the time, “why would I get a vaccine for a virus that only kills ‘x’ of people?” It’s not the mortality rate I personally worry about, it’s how the virus is attacking the hosts body and what we have seen so far, like the clotting issue, is only the tip of the iceberg.

I have also seen lots of people say, “well I didn’t get the vaccine and I never got covid.” The number of asymptomatic people who had/have covid is huge. That does not mean you are not at risk and I will link this case study.

I don’t support mandatory vaccination at all, just to make that clear. I mentioned before that my son wouldn’t be getting the vaccine as I don’t feel the evidence I’ve seen points to him being in any way at risk (his age group). I know many Drs in Ireland also feel this way and are actually vocal on their social media about this (children not needing the vaccine). Of course, it goes without saying children who are compromised are better to receive the vaccine than to get covid.

You can always find something that will support your viewpoint. I have tried to keep my mind open in regards to the vaccine/covid and made my decisions in line with what I’ve read. Will I need a covid vaccine next year? Maybe not, maybe the strains will continue to become less damaging and I’ll feel that I no longer require it or it could go the other way.

Keeping my mind open and I suggest everyone does the same.

Talking in circles achieves nothing but I wanted to put my final thought about this in the thread.
I guess theres a reason human trials take years not months well atleast they are supposed to with proper vaccines
 
Try 60,000
for shits and giggles, let's pretend that's true:

that's still over THREE LEVELS OF MAGNITUDE safer than the virus.

ffs, why do i even come back here? the lack of critical thinking among anti vaxxers serves only to piss me off.

have fun with your tee hee circle jerk, i'm tired of trying to hold y'alls hands through this EASY logic.

edit (i suck at math, the antivaxxer fuckery is even fucking stupider than i thought before the edit)
 
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Why does it always seem like the "vaxxers" get the most angry & upset about some one else's choice?
I don't see "anti-vaxxers (stupid term, since most people are just against the covid shot & not vaccines as a whole)" getting pissed off at other people for having taken it.

Although this whole debacle has caused me to re-think vaccines and institutionalized medicine/science.
Anyone an old reddit user? Remember that "anti-vax" rhetoric that went on there for a few years right before "covid"? Doesn't seem so organic now looking back. They've been priming people to villify any one who refuses forced treatment. And it's clearly worked on a good chunk of the population.

I'm completely unvaxxed, still haven't had covid and if I did, it was indiscernible from any other cold/respiratory infection.
Yet I know plenty of people who got all their shots & boosters & keep ending up with covid anyway. Pretty ironic.
I've never taken a flu shot either & somehow haven't had the flu since I was 7 years old.
Yet my mom was a flu vaccine fanatic (cause she was told she should be due to her COPD), yet she still ended up with pneumonia every winter. And eventually got blood cancer, which I find pretty interesting.

It's unreal how well they were able to whip the whole world into a fear frenzy over something as bad as a cold.
Next Big Pharma will come out with a shot to protect people from stubbing their damn toe & people will flock to it like a herd.
Cause we all know pharma corps & government have NEVER abused people, caused deaths or experimented on people before, ever.
 
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