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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

Weird coincidence after my post just a couple hours ago, there was JUST a bit about a Diptheria outbreak here in the UK on the news.
 
MsDiz said:
Covid is also new ffs! Like NSA said. I guarantee you, we will see in a few years the damage that covid has done and you’ll all change your opinion on the vaccine. I’d bet my yearly salary on it.
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I would gladly take that bet…if you honestly think In a few years the vaccine will be anything but a commercial you see in between price is right episodes that says “did you or someone you know get hurt taking the MRNA vaccines, you may be entitled to compensation “ then you haven’t been paying much attention to anything but what the companies and scientist they fund say
 
I truly hope more people wake up and soon.

How many more scandals until the people realise we are being tested?
It's always the ones who have never picked up a book who are the first to say "You're not the doctor. Of course the doctors are right!!"
I'd love to hear the positive outcomes of making it illegal to leave your own homes, though now it's absolutely OK to do so. The naivety of our population is outrageous.

It's almost like dividing everyone based on vaccination status, gender, race, religious beliefs and so on has absolutely nothing to do with these made up people who control us! That would be an absurd assumption to make am I right?
 
Also how do people who don’t watch “corporate news” end up with the exact same POVs they talk about on those corporate news channels…hmmm, things that really make you think… is it even possible that corporations like FOX and CNNs reach goes beyond their own (main) platform…nah, that’s crazy talk
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Also how do people who don’t watch “corporate news” end up with the exact same POVs they talk about on those corporate news channels…hmmm, things that really make you think… is it even possible that corporations like FOX and CNNs reach goes beyond their own (main) platform…nah, that’s crazy talk
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It think if it happens its because we are very social species and our regular interactions have a great affect on others and society as a whole. So media is able to influence those that consume it and then they in turn influence the people they come in contact that don't.

Also look at fashion and Gandhi.. so many people do what everyone else is doing.. thats why be the change you want see in the world works.. on this one I initially thought how fkn idiotic is this idea.. holly shit was I wrong. It you start doing something positive for our overall experience in life and people can easily copy it.. its rolls like wild fire.. its unbelievable.. try it.. I mean give it five minutes though.
 
I will occasionally watch US state media just to see their spin on certain narratives. They are all about the same, mostly bc they are all owned by Steve Jobs’ widow, and a handful of other mega rich people.
Listened to a bit of npr the other day and it was wild. They are so obsessed with identity politics and pushing their orthodoxy. I’ve watched it a bit closer than usual. They really like desantis, and trumps still the number one enemy. Makes me wonder about desantis tbh. But not really, they see someone easier to manipulate in desantis since he doesn’t have independent wealth.
 
Dropperneck said:
I will occasionally watch US state media just to see their spin on certain narratives. They are all about the same, mostly bc they are all owned by Steve Jobs’ widow, and a handful of other mega rich people.
Listened to a bit of npr the other day and it was wild. They are so obsessed with identity politics and pushing their orthodoxy. I’ve watched it a bit closer than usual. They really like desantis, and trumps still the number one enemy. Makes me wonder about desantis tbh. But not really, they see someone easier to manipulate in desantis since he doesn’t have independent wealth.
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Anyone who has legitimate “fuck you” money is a problem for the government, and if one of those people happen to make it into government then all bets are off
 
Dropperneck said:
Without that money you don’t stand a chance in their kangaroo courts or being up against their corrupted/subverted state agencies.
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I truly believe in a decade, maybe more, when all the hype n social media shit dies down n wears off trump will actually be looked back on as a good president when just looking at his resume ,(think G.W.)you can mark my words on that
 
alasdairm said:
i see this kind of message in here pretty frequently and it's odd to me. i think you're better than this @Foreigner .

it's just not possible for different people to look at an issue and see it differently?

a few months ago, somebody leveled this criticism at me. it's not a little comical to me as i watch pretty much no broadcast or cable tv in real time - almost 100% of my content viewing is movies and tv shows i watch after the fact.

i get my news from a selection of sources so i guess those are my corporate media overlords? can you tell me who they are? i challenged the person who accused me of this to name my sources so we could discuss my corporate media overlords. he did not respond. i wonder why...

alasdair
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I was mostly being tongue in cheek. I have a hard time understanding why anyone is still buying into this program. Honestly, I can't fathom it. I know the trite common explanations, but they are all devoid of critical thinking... which is really the answer that I have to arrive at: that people don't know how to think. There is no logic behind widespread use of a product that has such low efficacy and is so highly politicized.

People just believe what they are told. They trust the government and the medical establishment, blindly. It doesn't occur to them at all that maybe they are being deceived. I can't imagine living that way. I respect people's individual choices almost universally but this is one choice that I just can't respect... unless a person actually wants to self-harm, then it makes sense.

The pandemic setup was so patently wrong and suspicious from day 1. I guess what it comes down to is that fear really works on most human beings.
 
Foreigner said:
I was mostly being tongue in cheek. I have a hard time understanding why anyone is still buying into this program. Honestly, I can't fathom it. I know the trite common explanations, but they are all devoid of critical thinking... which is really the answer that I have to arrive at: that people don't know how to think. There is no logic behind widespread use of a product that has such low efficacy and is so highly politicized.

People just believe what they are told. They trust the government and the medical establishment, blindly. It doesn't occur to them at all that maybe they are being deceived. I can't imagine living that way. I respect people's individual choices almost universally but this is one choice that I just can't respect... unless a person actually wants to self-harm, then it makes sense.

The pandemic setup was so patently wrong and suspicious from day 1. I guess what it comes down to is that fear really works on most human beings.
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That's why we should start questioning ourselves and wake the F up. Not everything that the FDA,WHO, the government try to impose on us have good intentions.
The reality is that they see us as bloody LIVESTOCK, so it's time for the REVOLUTION.
 
at this point in time I don’t see how anyone can be pro COVID vaccine…like you literally have to be willingly putting your common sense on the shelf and your head in the sand,..I kinda get the denial from parents that gave it to their kid, nobody wants to accept they put their kid in danger, but your average adult, I mean come on how many things can you tie to a coincidence before you say “huh, that’s weird”
 
Las Veghost grower said:
at this point in time I don’t see how anyone can be pro COVID vaccine…like you literally have to be willingly putting your common sense on the shelf and your head in the sand,..I kinda get the denial from parents that gave it to their kid, nobody wants to accept they put their kid in danger, but your average adult, I mean come on how many things can you tie to a coincidence before you say “huh, that’s weird”
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That commie Gov in Mass
recently brought back semi- lockdowns (not much different than the original ones)
trying to implement them until May-June next year
poor souls
living in their pools they eventually forget about the sea
 
Foreigner said:
I respect people's individual choices almost universally but this is one choice that I just can't respect... unless a person actually wants to self-harm, then it makes sense.
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This is so extreme.

@MsDiz what kind of a forum are we? We want to X but we also want X Reduction. If reducing X through the safer use and proper representation of Y, we eliminate stigma don’t we?

Or do we show disrespect for people engaging in something specifically for basic health reasons. What if X is extremely politicized and the spread of misinformation in the war on X costs over time millions of lives and trillions of dollars needlessly.

Does this analogy work?

Remember guys. When something is studied endlessly and pondered endlessly by all kinds of folk for all kinds of reasons, you can probably find evidence to support anything you like in any way.

Idk I just have a hunch the world didn’t shut down for no reason, not all medical science and political deployment to solve world issues is Inherently malevolent, the basic numbers and facts are probably on par, the scientific community has basis, the world is not all some conspiracy about the boogeymen out to get you, etc.

Technology and investment may have these vaccines as the most researched in history despite a shorter time. Everything which comes out in regard to the long term and incidence rates of collateral damage due to COVID infection negates the fact that vaccines aren’t quite perfect with a fraction of a percent having actual proven damages,

The history books for this time period are going to be interesting. The future is the flu, the common cold, and COVID for sure now, and vaccines will obviously still exist and be improved upon yet again. All theorizing aside, it’s almost certain there will be a lot of disrespect for whatever is identified as the main antagonistic forces creating these platforms of fear and conspiracy and such.

Every time I read this foolishness, always accompanied with its anecdote, or vast minority of cases in evidence, calling everyone else brainwashed or devoid of critical thought or whatever - I just think of the USAs death rate compared to New Zealand. I think it’s killing people that this rubbish continues to have a serious platform.

I’ve got absolutely zero shame in saying I support mandatory vaccinations. With only proven medical reasons to not get one being the exemption. Not fear. The medicine our ultra intelligent species as human beings have studied for eons with all our tech.

We can study something in a single day with greater efficiency than an entire centuries work could manage in a century just centuries ago. Pick any one I don’t mind. Let the experts work, like MsDiz for instance.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Good post like almost all of yours are...until the above statement which, for me, is an amazing thing to hear from a bright guy like you for about a million reasons.

Mandatory vaccinations? Seriously, fuck that. C'mon.
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In counterstance against the ridiculous amount of undue death. Yes I do. Other vaccines are mandatory if you want easy access to Kindergarten. I have no issue with deploying mandatory COVID vaccines until it’s actually suppressed.

Hey government control! Red light! Green light!
 
I have my reasons to take a harder stance on this @ageingpartyfiend the way COVID has been handled, and all of the sludge which murks up my ‘brighter’ points and caused a ton of death and trillions in extended financial losses of all kinds in Canada and the US drastically outweighs any govt control whining about a short poke that is vast minority complications. And exemptions are made.

This whole stupid issue absolutely wrecked my best relationship because we disagreed on whether it was okay for him to keep coming home with COVID getting us sick, he is a trucker who is constantly picking up everything he’s around in the USA. He kept coming home sick, wouldn’t get checked, was just as stupid about it as a ton of the posters in here are, etc, didn’t want vaccines, didn’t want govt control.

Hey Kevin! Red light! Green light!

It led to our final confrontation which destroyed everything. He was going to come home sick AGAIN with his shitty attitude and I couldn’t stand it. I have a lot of reasons to be terrified of this behaviour. Although his employer had to fucking move things around last time he tested positive, got COVID very shortly after probably from him, her husband wound up in the hospital with it, etc. I thought if I asked her to talk to him about getting a test, just a test, she might respond. She was wrapped around his finger as they’re close friends and birds of a feather flock together right?

That to the last part which is more hurtful and fucked up on both of us than I care to write about here. i love that man so much, and this argument actually ruined us.

I have been homeless extensively ever since in a climate where costs have doubled to live at the bottom rung and the lack of cohesion on this very issue is the root cause of severe underfunding and unavailability of resources. If you think I am wrong. Fuck you, you villianous twat. Pussy. Go get a poke so we can stop bailing out the incorrigible middle to upper ends which structure us. You help suppress the numbers and I’ll show you a society that recovers quicker. Or wind up sick. It’s on you buddy,

Hey KEVIN! Red light! Green light!

I have a SEVERE autoimmune disease which will kill me in my 30s most likely. It trumps any whining about COVID or vaccines any day. I don’t understand what all of your issues are. You’re a bunch of pathetic whiners and you’re going to ruin your appeal with your systems, which whether you like it or not, are better than no system. And people you care about. Vaccines and testing and masks are superior to your crucifying antiestablishment whiner bullshit. No one enjoys this. The science and the experience of this backs me up all fucking day that I am right and you are wrong,

COVID-19 will DESTROY me if it triggers my disease. If you want to come around me sick, you better fucking watch it.

THATS why I support mandatory vaccines. It’s a mandatory school lesson against pseudo=schizophrenic conspiracy regarding something which is very simple. These things have been developed and more than suggested for a reason.

HEY KEVIN! RED LIGHT! GREEN LIGHT!
 
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