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Wars, Invasions, & Imperialism Thread v. Ukraine & Russia

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deficiT said:
Before the USSR was formed, like during the first World War, Russia was comparatively way far behind in regards to technology to the rest of Europe and the West.

They were fighting tanks riding on horseback is a common euphemism regarding the first world war for Russia.

The industrial revolution that took place under a planned economy catapulted the USSR into global power territory.
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Russian Tanks WW1
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German Tanks WW1
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December Flower said:
He fucking begged NATO to back off, he kept begging and they kept taking, what would you do? srsly
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I wouldn't invade an independant country that is not in Nato and wasn't imminently joining either.
I was surprised that so many former warsaw pact countries have joined NATO, but it is no excuse whatsoever for invading non-NATO Ukraine.
Invading Ukraine because they will soon be competition? Because Russia wants to take the oil? Because America did it in Iraq?
There might be something in that, but it's not a good reason, it's a greedy reason.
You won't convince me with the "Poor old Russia always gets picked on, it's not really Putin's fault"
 
Feels like a false flag bio/chem attack could happen from either side. I don't know if anybody here saw the hearing where Victoria Nuland admitted the U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine. Russia claims they're for bioweapons, and U.S. denied they existed then claimed they're for research.


Then the press sec posted this:
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papercuts said:
I wouldn't invade an independant country that is not in Nato and wasn't imminently joining either.
I was surprised that so many former warsaw pact countries have joined NATO, but it is no excuse whatsoever for invading non-NATO Ukraine.
Invading Ukraine because they will soon be competition? Because Russia wants to take the oil? Because America did it in Iraq?
There might be something in that, but it's not a good reason, it's a greedy reason.
You won't convince me with the "Poor old Russia always gets picked on, it's not really Putin's fault"
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As I said it's a complex situation. There's also the fact that the USA has been meddling in Ukraine politics


The Anti-Russian Government in a country that is like half Russians. Crimea was like 90% Russians,
and Ukraine banned the language, declared rebelling citizens "separatists" in the East and started bombing them,
all of that is researchable.

I think Putin knows that this is the only thing he can do for Russia not to die

Hey but why not because America did it in Iraq, twice, and Iran, and Afghanistan,
ach just check out the tour schedule
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and that was just up to 2003 :ROFLMAO:

What fucks me up is the narrative. Yeah because it's a European country and the obvious aggressor is not the USA everyone and their fucking grandma protests, but when the USA does it in muslim countries, or in other 'third-world countries" it's all fucking fine and dandy and only the "hippy democrats" protest anything. because they're "terrorists" or "separatists" and that's why it's OK to kill their civilians.

Putin says the same fucking thing. "Separatists" "Nazis" "Terrorists". When the US doesn't do it, it's not OK.
 
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Looks like India may have launched a missile at Mach 3 and 124km into Pakistan and Pakistan is pissed. Damaged some civilian property.


 
JGrimez said:
Like I said before, just because the propaganda is in English doesn't make it anymore accurate.
You think I care that much about Russia? I mean, their women are smoking hot but that's about as much as I commend them.
I do care about the truth though. I just find it so bizarre that you believe the MSM lies after they've lied to you SO MANY TIMES OVER AND OVER AD NAUSEUM.
Who's stupid for continuing to believe someone after they've lied to you for the umpteenth time?

+ I only report people who, if I respond proportionally, I will get infracted for. I've been banned too many times already to take their bait and whenever I complain you know what the admins say? "Report problematic posts". So I do. Trust me I'd much rather not report their posts and simply respond how I normally would (but then people report me in order to shut me up). Unlike the West, I learn from my mistakes.


John Mearsheimer predicted this back in 2015. He said if Ukraine continue to capitulate to these dangerous games being played by the West, then Ukraine is going to get wrecked by Russia. It's not like any of this was a surprise (to the people who are honest and pay attention).

What the virtue-signallers refuse to accept though is that this is the West's fault. It's just impossible for them to fathom that Russia holds the moral high ground over their own countries. Too much bias.
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JGrimez said:
Like I said before, just because the propaganda is in English doesn't make it anymore accurate.
You think I care that much about Russia? I mean, their women are smoking hot but that's about as much as I commend them.
I do care about the truth though. I just find it so bizarre that you believe the MSM lies after they've lied to you SO MANY TIMES OVER AND OVER AD NAUSEUM.
Who's stupid for continuing to believe someone after they've lied to you for the umpteenth time?

+ I only report people who, if I respond proportionally, I will get infracted for. I've been banned too many times already to take their bait and whenever I complain you know what the admins say? "Report problematic posts". So I do. Trust me I'd much rather not report their posts and simply respond how I normally would (but then people report me in order to shut me up). Unlike the West, I learn from my mistakes.


John Mearsheimer predicted this back in 2015. He said if Ukraine continue to capitulate to these dangerous games being played by the West, then Ukraine is going to get wrecked by Russia. It's not like any of this was a surprise (to the people who are honest and pay attention).

What the virtue-signallers refuse to accept though is that this is the West's fault. It's just impossible for them to fathom that Russia holds the moral high ground over their own countries. Too much bias.
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Only message allowed is Pro-Ukraine and Anti-Russian!

Don't look at the breaking of various treaties by the Ukrainians! Lisbon Protocol and Minsk Treaty.

tass.com

Kiev officially admits violating Minsk agreements — LPR envoy

In accordance with additional ceasefire control measures, in effect since July 27, 2020, the sides are prohibited from using unmanned aerial vehicles in the vicinity of the line of contact
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Don't look at that the Ukraine has ELEVEN Bio-Weapon Labs!


Don't look that the Ukrainians were looking into Dirty Bombs using the byproducts of their Nuclear plants.

I do not believe the Ukranian civilians should be killed but hopefully most have left the Ukraine?
 
December Flower said:
Putin has a weird admiration for America in general
He would have sucked that NATO dick so hard,
but US needs enemies to keep people busy looking at their mistakes ;)
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Honestly, I admire Putin. Why? Because I admire strength of character. And I'm sick to death of the media's narrative. Awww, the poor Ukrainian people are being tormented by the evil Russian dude? Why do we even GIVE a fuck? The media here has been accusing him of war crimes. Some media types (like Harvey Levin) have been saying it would better for everyone if someone in Russia would assassinate Putin. Seriously, what the fuck?

Putin should receive the Nobel prize for medicine. When he went after the Ukraine, the pandemic practically disappeared. Talk about a fucking miracle! Here in Los Angeles, masks suddenly aren't required at most indoor places! Out of the blue, restrictions are "suddenly" lessening; they're getting rid of those vaxx passports, like overnight.

Thank you, Mr Putin for curing Covid by invading the Ukraine! It's a fucking miracle!
 
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Illyria99 said:
Honestly, I admire Putin. Why? Because I admire strength of character. And I'm sick to death of the media's narrative. Awww, the poor Ukrainian people are being tormented by the evil Russian dude? Why do we even GIVE a fuck? The media here has been accusing him of war crimes. Some media types (like Harvey Levin) have been saying it would better for everyone if someone in Russia would assassinate Putin. Seriously, what the fuck?
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I saw a clip on a UK radio station today where it was asserted that Putin is a combination of Hitler AND Stalin together :ROFLMAO: Fucking ridiculous. All this talk of war crimes and having his assets taken.. well shit, I'll go with that if we can get the same applied to Blair, Bush, and all the neocons and City of London parasites who enabled those crimes (which were exponentially greater). When I can see all of them linked together in chains cracking rocks at the side of the M4 motorway, then we can think about Putin.

The irony is of course, that we (USA and UK) have contrived this Ukraine situation completely. Putin is just playing his role too. The world is a stage. It has never been more obvious that there is something else going on, globally, and that we are being taken for a ride towards a brave new world order.
Illyria99 said:
Putin should receive the Nobel prize for medicine. When he went after the Ukraine, the pandemic practically disappeared. Talk about a fucking miracle! Here in Los Angeles, masks suddenly aren't required at most indoor places! Out of the blue, restrictions are "suddenly" lessening; they're getting rid of those vaxx passports, like overnight.
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papercuts said:
Yes, nearly there. $10USD=£7.63GBP, which at today's price buys 4.9 litres, a gallon is 4.55 litres.
How is that connected to the crazy electoral system in the US?
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All of whoever is making the Biden admins decisions have led us to this point. The biggest was cucking our domestic production by halting all oil and gas permitting on federal lands. ultimately the largest they did was on the banking end, making oil and gas look bad for investment. This latest thing to cut out Russian oil, and buy from a different evil dictator didn’t help either.
 
@JGrimez Lmao I was literally making this same point to boomers on the internet going “oh muh gerd Pootin literally blew up a womens hospitahl”. The media has never told the truth, and now its a operation of purpose to shade the reality of the situation. Now that they feel threatened about the bio labs being exposed, they are warning Putin essentially that they will Assad him with a fake gas attack if he doesn’t quiet down lol. Gotta admit I do enjoy seeing the cringe fake footage though, I just remember how absurd the one they did for Assad was, they could have waited till the chemical weapons inspection committee wasnt in the country and Assad wasn’t winning his conflict 🤦🏿
 
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