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Wars, Invasions, & Imperialism Thread v. Ukraine & Russia

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haradik said:
live in Kyiv. And every morning they shell at least a few houses.
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haradik said:
Is this an attempt to minimize civilian casualties? No, this is blood and terror. It didn’t work out “for good”, which means we will beat some, so that others would be afraid. Until fear paralyzes. This is their method
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I hope you find some peace sooner than later. I lived through a war in ex Yugoslavia which looked somethin like this one appears to be. First city called Vukovar, small in comparison to Ukrainian, was wiped from the face of the earth. I was in a capitol and we were bombed few times. Nothing like the third of the country that was completely demolished. It was till now the biggest war in Europe since WW2. I have permanent ptsd from sirens sounding every day and watching fighter jets flying over my head. Tactics of indiscriminate bombing, war crimes and imposing fear by flying 70 fighter jets over capitol city just to intimidate is something I resonate with deeply.

I pray that this whole mess in Ukraine stops. To this day I don't know why the war between essentially same nations was started and why people "from the other side" were forced to shoot at their former friends. Here the situation was more complex but I am sure of one thing - large amount of soliders participating in the war didn't want to fight, but they were forced to. I believe that this is also the case with Russian soliders. I am talking about that 90-95% of "ordinary soliders" that are either forced to shoot/fight or they will be killed by their own goverment and generals. Im rambling sorry sbout that. I am distressed by this war as it brings out my own trauma. Hope you find peace @haradik .❤

P.S. Unfortunately the reason for war is always the same one - money, power, influence, control...all tied with most lowest capacities of human beings like greed, hatred, ilusion of greatness/wanting to be God...and I don't see that fixed soon unfortunately.
 
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December Flower said:
Can we make one little nuance clear here:
neither did the Germans know what was going on, about 90%+ had no idea whatsoever
what was happening in the camps. They thought they were work prisons.
The camps were kept under secrecy, and fake camps like Theresienstadt were used to lull people into believing they were pretty fancy work camps

It wasn't until the KZ in Thüringen was discovered that the whole thing came to light,
to both Allies and German civilian population. Many thought this to be some "Ally lie",
some still think that.

But being a big fan of the US I just want to leave here that you guys absolved our high ranked Nazi scientists of their crimes, destroyed evidence of their past, and let them live in the US like normal people to get an edge over Russia.


that's just the US engraved Western society we live in.
US can do what it wants, but nobody else is allowed to.

People started hating Russia on the click of a button.
Why? Because media told us they are the bad guys.

It's a similar tactic as the one the Nazis used here in Germany.
As long as the people know who the "enemy" is, they are content.
So you just tell them who their enemy is, and make a compelling case
only very few are prone to check if there is more truth behind it,
most will just bark when the media tells them to bark.
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Likewise, the conflict I was born into the start of, was so much propaganda and lies until the inquests started thirty years later and it is really difficult for the people who were hook line and sinker on the side of one government to admit a war has at least two sides and both sides lie to the max. People here still walk about refusing to believe that government was so culpable, that the army lied through it's teeth and now the same government is bringing legislation to ensure their commanders are not to be punished for the cold blooded murders of civilians, children etc. No Nuremberg style trials for NATO military personel. They can commit murder so long as the conflict ends in "compromise" aka, them getting their own way. I expect Ukraine will suffer the same way and be forced to accept the slaughtered civilians without complaint as part of the eventual withdrawal deal.

Same old story, country A (neighbouring country) fucked up country B (mine) because it was tiny by comparison and they wanted to stay and practice their shooting or ride around with their guns pointed at you feeling superior. Until I was 28 and they agreed finally to withdraw their troops.
I disagree with only the US gets away with it, the US didn't blow up our infrastructure, other countries feel entitled to extra "respect" for being powerful too. If anything the US were quietly on our side, same as they are quietly on Ukraine's side and sending money for them, they did that for us too, stupid pricks kept the conflict going that way.

It is horrific wherever it happens, however the powerful portray themselves, they are usually powerful because they are total cunts. Whether we are talking about the States, the UK, the Balkans, Russia or we go right back to ww2 and Germany, there are no constructive wars.
Anyway Russia is hitting back on sanctions, the US economy runs on property rights including patents, so Russia gave permission for their companies to ignore all such claims to their profits, Russian oxy coming our way?
 
deficiT said:
This will be a place to discuss the various happenings in the world, particularly related to global foreign policy related to wars, invasions, and imperialism.
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Why does the USA have such an obvious "America will lead the international stage for its own interests" so blatantly and obviously that Biden just says it and there's no other country or nation besides Russia and China that calls bullshit on it?



Why would any other country be expected to put America first and not themselves?

Biden and today's USA have exposed exactly how much of an empire it has sneakily built by inserting America into foreign interests.

How did America get that much global influence that it has been "legal" for it to make up some bs about "intelligence that Iraq has nukes" and conned other countries into declaring war?

Why was there so little response from other countries at the haphazard withdrawal from Afghanistan? How did Biden just take billions of Afghani money because of some compensation to the trade centre victims 20 years ago? Today's Afghanis were not responsible, neither was the Taliban! World banks won't deal with Afghanistan now, people are selling organs to survive. And the Ukraine can't see America couldn't give a shit about them either?

Its obvious Biden lied to Ukraine about letting them join NATO when they could never, its disgusting to have such a war hungry idiot like Biden get that job, considering his years of meddling with Ukraine.

Is swapping one dimwit for another every 4 years better than countries that have 1x autocratic dimwit?

The UN was Americas idea and its obvious why Russia sees anything "western" as nazi like, because it is. I doubt the nazis saw themselves as evil either, they saw themselves as righteous , above everyone, just like the America today.

America empire builds by propaganda, blackmail, interfering in local disputes and has no ones interest besides their own.

Its weird how its happened and sad no leader has the mods to call them on their bullshit, maybe because the sanctions and threats if they dare question America is too real?

This is far from healthy.

America doesn't care about Americans. At all. The billions and trillions spent on inciting war for gain could have gone to increasing minimum wages, infrastructure or social security. Or education or anything.


America is 100% guilty of genocides especially in the middle east and needs to be investigated, held to account by the United nations.

America didn't care about what the nazis did, they just wanted a foothold in Europe as Europe was the economic powerhouse at the time.

Now it isn't. The Ukraine conflict would be over today if America directed its puppet President to sign the treaty as it stands, which is reasonable.

The only real hope are countries with influence and economic strength to go against sanctions despite threats of being sanctioned so America doesn't have the stranglehold on the world like it does.

Other countries cant be held hostage by fear they are going to be invaded therefore need Americas weapons. No one needs that nor does anyone need Americas permission to trade with anyone else or interact with anyone.

America is a true disgrace, for real.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Why does the USA have such an obvious "America will lead the international stage for its own interests" so blatantly and obviously that Biden just says it and there's no other country or nation besides Russia and China that calls bullshit on it?
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Johan Galtung put it nicely “I Love the US Republic, and I Hate the US Empire”.

 
Negentropic said:
@Electrum1 I'm curious man, info about Ukraine on reddit is propaganda but Twitter is not? Not a bait question, just curious.
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That's why I put "I assume this video is legit" on the thermobaric video because it may not be.

At the beginning of the war the tweets I posted here about the Russian cargo planes full of paratroopers getting shot down turned out to be propaganda too.
 
Electrum1 said:
"Zelensky bans opposition parties in Ukraine"

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I read an article somewhere that quoted someone in American politics that Zelensky would just be replaced should anything happen to him.

Since when does America have any authority in a foreign government anyway, shouldn't the Ukranian govt speak for themsrlves?

We all know America installed its own puppet govt in 2014, theres been about 3 changes of corrupt criminal puppets since then and the Ukraine has not been able to survive without billions of foreign aid.

Fuck the Ukraine, its a shitshow like any other thing America interferes with.

Russia is better off concentrating on protecting its border, Dombass and Crimea, park nukes facing in the direction of Kiev and get out of there.

I wouldn't blame Putin if he nuked Europe yet he should just aim at Biden, kill the Queen to kill the nest.
 
Negentropic said:
Didn't US intelligence confirm this? I can't find anything refuting it. What are you reading?
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Idk about U.S. intelligence, but U.S. media claimed it happened. Ukraine claimed they shot down two cargo planes full of paratroopers but there was never any images of the wreckage like there is for all the other planes that got shot down. Been almost a month and still no images.
 
Electrum1 said:
Idk about U.S. intelligence, but U.S. media claimed it happened. Ukraine claimed they shot down two cargo planes full of paratroopers but there was never any images of the wreckage like there is for all the other planes that got shot down. Been almost a month and still no images.
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I mean, you know they don't share certain images during active war so as not to reveal their own locations or strategic defense locations right?
 
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