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Warning: Sniffer dogs at london tube stations

reckon the dogs are trained for meph and methylone already then yer?
 
Yeah you can tell when someone's coming down the escalators with meph because of all the people gagging a hundred feet away.
 
On the subject of police wrong doing, did anybody catch this earlier in the year? Unbelievable.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/mar/29/police-burglary-exeter

Officers who 'burgled' Exeter homes as part of crime prevention exercise accused of trespass

It was meant to be an imaginative way of hammering home the message that some householders are making life too easy for burglars. But police were under fire today after admitting they had been sneaking into people's homes through open doors and windows and gathering up their valuables into "swag" bags.

Officers in Exeter –who left the swag behind, together with crime prevention information – found more than 50 unsecured properties and claimed people had been glad to receive the wake-up call and advice. But not all residents were happy and a criminal lawyer suggested that the police may have been guilty of trespass.

One resident, Mike Parsons, said: "Since when have members of the constabulary been allowed to enter into someone's private property uninvited and without a warrant? How long before a police officer is attacked and fatally wounded by a worried householder who hears a noise downstairs and then attacks the intruder? This is trespass plain and simple."

Neil Scott, a criminal lawyer, of Foot Anstey solicitors, said: "I have never heard of anything like this before and it seems to be incredibly risky.

No one has an automatic right of entry to someone else's property without consent. That applies to police officers and members of the public, and whether it is unsecured is irrelevant. Police need a warrant from a magistrates court if they wish to do this, or they may enter a property if they believe an offence is being committed. To my mind, if they have entered properties like this, they are trespassers. Trespassing is not a criminal offence but it is considered a civil wrong and could be pursued through the courts as such."

He added: "What if one of the homeowners goes on to claim something has gone missing while the officers were in the property? There is a risk of an accusation of burglary. And everyone is entitled to use reasonable force to defend their property from intruders. Conceivably an officer could have been attacked."

Devon and Cornwall police said the operation was launched after a "spike" in burglaries, mainly at student accommodation. Officers had encouraged householders to take security more seriously but warnings were not heeded.

Other forces have tried initiatives such as rattling windows and trying doors then shouting to residents – sometimes waking them up – to warn them they may be at risk.

Officers decided a more "innovative approach" was needed and the "swag" campaign was launched.

PC Rob Bolt, neighbourhood beat manager, said: "Officers were able to walk into people's homes and place the swag bags in their properties while we could hear them upstairs. We were expecting to find some insecure properties but were amazed by the number that were identified." Officers are dedicated to catching offenders but if we can stop the crime occurring then we can prevent members of the public from becoming victims of crime.

"While we do not want to create an atmosphere of fear, it is important that occupants are aware that currently most burglaries are occurring through insecure windows and doors. Even if you are in the house, a burglar will still seize the opportunity to open your door and see if anything is in view."

Around 16 officers have been carrying out the "burglaries" supported by officials from Communities Together, which brings together other groups and agencies.

Police said the officers involved were in uniform to allay the fears of residents if they suddenly came across one of the intruders.

Matthew Elliott, the chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, criticised the campaign.

"Officers are there to enforce the law but that does not mean that they are above it. Taxpayers want their money to be spent on police going out fighting the real criminals, not breaking into ordinary, law-abiding people's houses and telling them what to do."

A spokesman said: "This initiative was carried out with the best of intentions. However we do accept that our actions of entering properties to leave the bags could be deemed as trespass.

"This was a one-off initiative which we will not be repeating."

To date the force has received no complaints from any of the residents concerned.
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they don't always have a sniffer at warehouse project, in fact they usually don't.. never seen one in piccadilly station though, but above it there is a massive police station (BTP) so its best to avoid if your carrying lots, I tend to use to coach to get back to leeds because there are NEVER polis at the coach stations
 
Do they still do those big 'we're randomly searching anyone we fancy' exercises at train stations as they did a couple of years back in London? I think it was under some horseshit anti-terror pretext, but it was fucking frightening.
 
not sure about London, but occasionally on the met stations in manchester (think its always at the end of the line, saw it in altrincham, so you have to get off) they set up a metal detector and a sniffer dog with the ticket people, not cool!
 
^ Yeah, I've seen that before in Manchester. Dogs with the ticket guys, harsh.

I've had 4 metro fines from skipping the metro in Newcastle, 2 went to court, named and shamed on posters on the station. Not big, not clever, but never dared do it much in Manchester, only when I was really skint.

I just refused to use the underground in London if I was carrying.
 
MDMAhead said:
LOL, no you don't!!! You can just walk straight out the main exit that leads towards Picadilly Gardens. The only reason I ever go down those escalators is to get to the taxi rank on the other side of the station.

Oh, and even when I have gone down those escalators, I've never seen a sniffer dog at the bottom. Infact, I've never seen a sniffer dog in Picadilly Station at all (which is funny because they always have a sniffer dog on the door of the Warehouse Project, which is about a 1-minute walk from Picadilly Station).
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I didnt make it very clear, when getting off the train at platform 13/14 you have to do down that ramp thing that moves, or down the stairs, but they both lead to the same place, there is no other way of getting out of the station if coming in from this way, they were stood at the bottom of the flat escalators.
 
tekkeN said:
never seen one in piccadilly station though, but above it there is a massive police station (BTP) so its best to avoid if your carrying lots
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Aye, you don't want to end up seeing the inside of that station. :\

They do have sniffer dogs at Piccadilly, but it was more common about three years or so ago, coinciding with my heavy coke period. I work near the station, go there for lunch and pass through it on my way to and from work, so I always got a heads-up from colleagues whenever the dog was there.

I only ever saw them at the bottom of the escalators once. Most of the time they'd stay in the main station area, meaning you could walk round them via the bit with all the shops . After all, disrupting travel is one thing, but disrupting consumerism? Never.
 
yup seen the inside of that station when I was 15, great fun :|

i always hate going through picadilly with drugs, especially when you have to go to platform 13/14 as mentioned, its too late to turn back if you see police.. I always thought oxford road station was safer if going to leeds but you really are trapped there so now i just get the coach everytime
 
If I'd been 15 when I went to that station I'd have crumbled!

Ironically enough the station entrance is in one of the only spots in town where you can get some peace and some space. The perfect spot for a cheeky spliff before or after a train journey. Shame about the rozzers shuffling back and forth, eh?
 
it wasn't cool, they don't even have a touch screen fingerprint reader there you have to get your hands all messy with ink

remember before they did up piccadilly, it was grim! now its all space age
 
Yep, old-fashioned policing. I swear I didn't know a man could be so rough with a DNA swab!

Cherry, didn't realise 'my' circle was so popular! If you're ever visting and you see a skinny, dark-haired freak in a leather trenchcoat smoking a rollie then you'll know exactly who to avoid. =D

I kind of miss the drafty old Piccadilly with the barber's downstairs.
 
i was very young before they re-did it, didn't have to pay for a piss back then! (not that I do now, unless carrying)
 
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