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Wanting a good opiate experience but I have fears...

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Lillady1985

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So I've never been a big pill person. I started a little thing with Xanax because it helps my real medical conditions I have panic disorder and I'm a hypochondriac. But then I found the after effects to be worse than I felt before so I quit that never with a habit. Anyway...I was prescribed 5mg oxycodones before which made me feel nice but I never took more than prescribed...then recently had 10mg hydrocodone which I split in half and took twice feeling nothing and then the third time taking 5mg got this really wonderful feeling but it could have been a lot more wonderful... Weird, I know. So after that I said why not try 10mg. So I tried 10 and I ended up getting faint, my heart started to beat fast, felt as if I was going to black out, my palms were sweating and I panicked. I felt like shit. I called down after 30 mins and never felt good at all. Since then Ive taken 5mg sevral times and don't feel anything. So yesterday I took 7.5mg a little step up...I think I feel like I'm just getting my body used to them because they used to make me a little nauseated but now they dont...anyway really nothing with 7.5 not even itchy like I have been before. So...I'm sure me being scared isn't helping me at all. I want to take 10mg or maybe 15mg is what I need for a good experience but I'm so scared I'll have that panic again like my first experience with 10...Do you think I got panicky from the pill or something in my head? If I took 15mg I wonder if that would happen again? If it did I think I guess I'll stay away from opiates all together because the negative is outweighing the positive so far...I definitely wont take them on a day Im feeling fearful but when Im feeling calm and happy already. I just wanted some opinions on what might be a good experience or if anyone else has felt anything like this before.
 
Personally with highly addictive drugs, I recommend taking them as prescribed by your doctor.
 
If you have a panic disorder it wouldn't surprise me if that had something to do with being anxious about the effects of the pill you just took. You can safely combine small amounts of benzos (Xanax in your case) with the opiates, considering you already have a tolerance to the Xanax and have a reason to take it.

However, if you're only having negative experiences with opiates, or, in your words, the negative is outweighing the positive, it might just be better to stay away from opiates altogether. I know a lot of people really love opiates (myself included) and a lot of them love them a bit too much (myself also included) and developed an addiction. So there's fair warning. I'm sure other posters will echo my point of view.

My experiences were different, I have positive experiences and increased the dose, more positive experiences. However, if you're getting negative experiences, increasing the dose/taking more often, etc...may just cause more negative experiences.

Opiates are not for everybody. That's my 2 cents.
 
No no no I absolutely will not be combining Opiates and Benzos. I never mix drugs...I have had good experience and feelings with opiates just a small small fuzzy feeling...thats why I continue to experiment...when I say negative I guess Im talking about the one bad experience with 10mg and the rest being experiences where I felt nothing...
 
I think it's in your head, but who knows? Also, you might be expecting a totally different experience.

In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, opiates are not all that intense. I would say that marijuana changes a person's perspective far more so than opiates. The first time I experimented with oxycodone, for example, I had to call my sister and ask her "what I should be feeling." It sounds dumb, but one might not notice an opiate's effects the first few times when they're anxious and wondering what's about to happen. Then, you'll realize that you feel more at ease, more comfortable, the sense of well-being, the warmness, and so on... and then you'll understand what an "opiate high" really is.
 
I would be soooo fucking pissed if i got anxiety while using opiates

Anxiety is all in your head i know its easier said than done but you just have to KNOW that your not going to die and that your going to have a wonderful experience and jsut go with the flow

Opiates should help anxiety
 
Listen, I doubt you will experience "panicky" feelings again. It was probably just a simple panic attack. You want a good opiate experience. For those with no or very little tolerance 15 mg is a good dose of hydrocodone. You will feel good, but like mentioned the effects CAN be subtle. At 15 mg I don't think they will be as subtle, but opiates are subtle drugs in general, well the euphoria is "subtle" compared to other drugs, but that doesn't mean any less powerful. I wouldn't take 15 mg, and then go out and about as opiates can make you feel "faint", which is nothing to worry about, but opiates are often best enjoyed at home, just relaxing. At 15 mg you might experience some nausea, lie down if you do, same goes for feeling faint, or dizzy. Just let the effects embrace you. Again, I don't think you will panic because you have accustomed your body some to opiates, and I do think what you experienced on the 10 mg was just a panic attack perphaps because you didn't know what the hydrocodone was doing. 15 mg is not too much, as in dangerous, but it might feel a little strong, maybe not. But that is what I recommend if, and only if you will be at home, relaxing with a bed near by.
 
Thank you guys. I think this is good advice. I think I kept thinking that 10mg that time was an overdose for me when I started to feel strange or something and when I started to feel REALLY light headed I instantly panicked. Then I found out 10mg really isn't a high dose and how could it be an overdose when the pills come in a 10mg form? Silly me. I'm obviously not allergic because I would have an allergic reaction everytime I take some and obviously wouldnt be trying it again...The time I felt so wonderful when I took only 5mg before the 10mg experience...I felt no anxiety what so ever...thats why I was inclined to try 10. I think I should go for 15 on a really good day...in the evening time when I'm not feeling stressed at all and like one of you said "This is to help my anxiety not make it worse." I just hear so many attractive things about how people feel on opiates and I got a taste of that in the 5mg dose only once and I guess I'm chasing that...it was good but I know it could have been even better. Panic is a hard thing to deal with though and Ive learned to control it...but that time it really took me for a spin and I think thats because I instantly convinced myself it was the pill making me feel like that and it took control of me...now that they dont even make me nauseated anymore I think my body knows not to freak...I hope so...because if 7.5 half made me feel nothing I can go def go for 10 and I think 15 would have me feeling very nicely on a nice stress free day.
 
15mg may still be a little strong for a new person, especially one who has panic in the back of their mind as i sometimes do. Trust me 10 mg is nothing to be worried about, even though i have worries a few times when i have taken norcos. All you have to do is tell your self it is basically impossible to die on this low a dose of opiate. Go ahead and dose 10mg again when you want and go with the flow, there is Nothing at all to worry about with a dose like that , remember it.
 
These aren't amphetamines, and although I've heard of increased anxiety/panic while having taken opiates it is quite rare. She says she is prone to panic attacks, so that explains that. She just has to realize that she is okay, which I think she has. She says she can't even feel 7.5 mg, so I don't think 15 mg would be a bad dose for her.
 
It's possible that the vicodin could induce a panic attack, some people report that vicodin (and other opioids) can cause restlessness, insomnia, and agitation. Not everyone gets that doped up/mellow sensation (shame). It's really tough to discern what is causing your panic attacks with the vicodin, it very well could have induced a panic attack the first time, and now due to your fear of having another panic attack, you kind of bring it on yourself.

That's the vicious circle of anxiety problems, it starts as a legit panic attack and then the simple FEAR of having a panic attack induces future events. You seem like you are very sensitive to these drugs, so I would proceed with caution. You shouldn't have to force yourself to like opiates...take it as a blessing in disguise.
 
ro0ga said:
It's possible that the vicodin could induce a panic attack, some people report that vicodin (and other opioids) can cause restlessness, insomnia, and agitation. Not everyone gets that doped up/mellow sensation (shame). It's really tough to discern what is causing your panic attacks with the vicodin, it very well could have induced a panic attack the first time, and now due to your fear of having another panic attack, you kind of bring it on yourself.

That's the vicious circle of anxiety problems, it starts as a legit panic attack and then the simple FEAR of having a panic attack induces future events. You seem like you are very sensitive to these drugs, so I would proceed with caution. You shouldn't have to force yourself to like opiates...take it as a blessing in disguise.
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Let me explain a little better...I wrote that I only got panicky the ONE time I took 10mg. I've taken 5mg and 7.5mg a handful of times (10-15) recently with no panic episodes but not much of a high either usually with nothing felt at all. I don't think I'm that sensitive to the drug...I think I'd get some kind of panic everytime if this was true, I usually feel more relaxed with them that's why I will take them but I never really get a "high" besides one experience early on with 5mg...I havent taken the 10mg dose again or the 15mg dose yet because of fear the panic could happen again. And you are right about how panic attacks work, I have had panic disorder/anxiety for years and it started with a panic attack and then it was a vicious cycle where they took me over and I couldnt handle them so the doctor put me on medication because she said "I don't know what's going to happen to you if you DON'T take the medication" I was on that dredful zombie pill for a year and they went away but made me not give a shit and I stopped taking it and now I've been off of it for years rarely have panic attacks and if I feel something similar coming on I can control them. I don't know wtf happened that time I took 10mg but me feeling different pretty quickly, I was talking with a customer at work and I think the feeling of something that made me a little lightheaded instantly caused me to think "oh what i took isnt agreeing with me, it was too much" and had a panic attack.

There was a day and time for me where I had no fears and I would probably pop 20mg or so to begin with without a care in the world but my mind has changed and I do believe my panic disorder is a result of my previous drug use with everything else from coke to lsd and my overprotective mother.

I think I will try 15mg one day I am stress free and happy because I know its not going to hurt me, I'm not allergic, the dose is too small and if for some reason I have a panic attack I'm not going to die from that and then I'll know that its definitely not for me!!!

But hopefuly it will work out nicely :-)
 
^ Yea give 15 mg a go im sure you will feel just lovelyy!

If anything youll be like damn i wish i woulda popped another 5 mg

And yea as your popping the goods think "this is going to cure my anxiety" and with that mind set it will def help

I think this is a good strategy because it has helped me

When i start to feel a little panicy sometimes ill take just a couple of normal multivitamins thinking "this is what i need" and it suprisingly helps

Allll in the headdd

YOU have control not some measly little pills
 
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