W/d's at day 10?

[Alm931]

My doc was opiates I have been using oxycontin/oxycodone snorted for about a year or 2 now. First 4 months or so was 40-80mgs every few days and the past 6 months have been heavy, ending in a solid 4 months of 400mgs a day sometimes more and even a bunch of tries IV ( towards the very end)

Anyway, I'm clean 10 days cold turkey today, but 3 things have notibly stayed the same. I get restless/sore legs and hips, horrible anxiety ( racing thoughts that make me hot or cold and chest butterflies) and the WORST insomnia. Maybe 2 hours of sleep if I am lucky. My addiction counsellor said I should be dealing with just some insomnia now, not those 3 big symptoms plus barely being able to eat

Can anyone with an addiction pattern similar to mine shed some light on whether this is normal and when I might finally feel normal. As I said it has been 10 days since my last dose ( 5x 15mg opana snorted the last day of use)

I wish I just felt normal, I could take the 4 days of complete misery at the beginning because you know it will end, this is definitely the most difficult part of staying clean, I just want my energy and sleep back!

Thanks a lot

 

[theartofwar]

are you staying active ? I know it feels like eternity - i've had some kicks prolong like that - oxys in any form seem to linger and have a longer kick for me , not as intense as smack but god you just wanna feel fuckin normal!! Best thing I did while kicking anything was exercise - get your endorphins going - get yourself outside if weather permits - when I kicked methadone i went hiking for a couple weeks , saved my damn life i was ready to fuckin saw my legs off - 7 weeks of insanity man.

Hang in there - it will get better. Glad you already have a counsellor but unless they have kicked multiple opiates over differing lengths of uses / doses - they are quoting prior clients and books. I can tell you having kicked every opie in the book it can drag on and blow :/ !

 

[clementines_ghost]

Alm, I am 18 days clean (c/t) from a 240 mg/day oxy habit (plus 80 mg hydro + soma). My insomnia disappeared with a vengeance on about day 12-14. I now completely collapse at around 7:30 pm, am in bed by 8 with a giant mug of Sleepytime tea (3 bags, little sugar, around 12 oz. water) and asleep, HARD, by 8:10 pm. I sleep until 6-7 am with about 4 get-ups in the night to change my PJs (still having soaking night sweats all night which fucking blows). I do not take anything but Immodium & Advil on a daily basis. And only 2-4 mg. of Immodium, not insane amounts.

This w/d is unlike anything I have ever experienced, and I've been dabbling in opiate addiction for a decade. Unique for both its longevity and its brutality. Day 18, and my remaining symptoms are: profound lack of energy, diarrhea (taken care of by Immodium, but I daren't stop taking it), night sweats, and emotional numbness.

The only slightly enjoyable aspect of being clean is that my fucked-up and completely inappropriate sense of humor has increased tenfold, and I'm regularly laughing at horrible things and people look at me like I'm a fucking monster. Oh well, fuck it, at least I can laugh at something.

Hang in there -- it seems to never fucking end, but my only confidante in all this says that he can see marked changes in me daily, despite my inability to see them, and I trust him.

 

[QuasiStoned]

I don't think that your experience is too far out of the ordinary. After I dropped a 2 year pod addiction I was sick for like 2 weeks straight...

I remember taking a week off from work and detoxing, then returning to work and still having a tough time of it. It does get better though, just gotta be patient.

 

[paranoid android]

Ive gone cold turkey off morphine, hydromorphone and oxycodone. Oxycodone for me was the easiest of the lot and the withdrawals didnt last too long but the depression following oxy withdrawal was even worse then going off of morphine or dilaudid. Maybe thats because oxy always gave me a kinda stimulating boost.

Ive been in withdrawal for a good 2 weeks at a time especially coming off of morphine so it's not uncommon to experience symptoms this long in to withdrawal. If the insomnia is that bad i would say that trying some sort of sleeping pill even OTC ones such as diphenhydramine, doxylamine, dimenhydrinate or other anti-histamines that are prescription or OTC in some countries such as hydroxyzine or promethazine wouldnt be a bad idea. they work good for some people atleast in the short term. Some anti-depressants such as the tricyclics amitriptyline and doxepin and the atypical anti-depressant mirtazapine (remeron) work great for sleep as well. Other then that id say try something like zopiclone or maybe a hypnotic benzo such as temazepam or nitrazepam. I would keep the benzos to a short term or occasional use though because you don't need a benzo addiction after coming off of opiates.

 

[Alm931]

Thanks for your posts everyone. So I decided to take a leap yesterday after hearing all this "exercise saved me" talk so I went big. I used to work out like a maniac, but as I'm sure we all know, getting a fix trumps working out anyway. I went to an hour and a half long spin class yesterday at 9am after barely sleeping. It kicked my ass! Felt soooo good to sweat like that. Anyway, I fell asleep around 12 last night and slept until 9am with only one wake up. It wasn't a deep peaceful sleep, but hell I'd take any kind.

It's day 12 and I feel good. The only thing that I've noticed is the morning anxiety. If I sit in bed and think about it, it gets worse, so I try and get up and active as soon as possible in the am. I'm finally starting to see what people mean when they say you will wake up one day and realize it is better than the day before and it just keeps getting better.

I've decided working out is going to be my new thing, get healthy, go back to college in a few weeks ( detoxed over holiday break ), and vie even decided that since I'm doing so well I will spend the money normally spent on jawnts (oxy) on a nice little senior year spring break trip with my friends!

The right mindset has really kept me going, and the first weekbwas he'll, but it's getting so much better, too late to turn back now!

 

[theseeker]

I'm very sensitive to opiates but my experience might prove useful. I was on only 40mg/day of oxy for 6 months and it took me a FULL month to feel better. Two months and I felt normal. There's no time table with this shit- it literally could end at any time. I also noticed that there was some oscillation in the way I felt day to day for a period of time- ie. some days better and some days worse. But the general trend, of course, is to feel better. It sounds like you've turned a corner yourself for the better! All the best to you.

 

[Alm931]

Hey guys. Just wanted to post again cause I know when i was going through the worst of my w/d's I was browsing for some hope, and I'm sure there are a lot of you out there.

Today was the best yet. I worked out and am seriously attempting to "hook" myself on fitness because it is bringing back normality to my life. Aside from anxiety this morning, today was a damn good day. I'm hoping last nights sleep wasn't a one time thing, but I'm exhausted from my long day so that's def a good sign. I have a spin class at 930am so im going to try and sleep

Listen, if your reading this, browsing story after story here's all the advice and motivation you need. I posted 3 days ago looking for answers cuz I felt like SHIT. Now I'm eating like I haven't in years ( 3 big meals minimum), feeling happy, and sleeping ( I hope )
I was doing oxy for 2 years, started as everyone does, a line here, line there, then every day, and BOOM I wake up after a 550mg day wondering WTF my life has come to. If I can do this ANYONE can. I failed so many times before but because I didn't really want it.

My advice, get a support system. Tell a parent or spouse ( told my mom ). Make it someone you CANT let down. It will help keep you on your toes

Delete your drug connects from your phone. This helped me when my mind wondered and I thought "I wonder if I could get any right now" which surely would have been yes and led to using if I had the numbers still

Get active. That's the common denominator for me feeling significantly better thus far. I thought it was BS but the day I made myself sweat for an hour was my turning point.

I was doing 400+mg a day. I was IV'ing like 7 roxi 30s at once at one point. I went through 60 OC 40s ( I bought them to taper, didn't happen) in 4 1/2 days. Thats like freaking 14 40s a day! If I can feel good after 13 days SO CAN YOU.

I'll continue to post and let ppl know how its going bc I found these threads useful when I was lost in the belly of horrible withdrawals.

 

[jksr1]

your allmost there my friend,just dont turn around. you will make it.

 

[attempt4]

The most effective thing for me in cold turkey/withdrawal is Cannabis and Exercise. Cannabis really helps lift the depression and exercise gives an overall lift.

You could try Kratom to help get off it. But that could be switching match for a lighter.