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Stimulants Vyvanse and extreme Depersonalization/Derealization and what might have caused it.'

Pouncey

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About A year ago I was prescribed vyvanse for ADHD and ADD, and everything was amazing, I was social, energetic, and attentive. I'm going to be completely honest here and say yes, I did abuse them sometimes, and I think that might be one of the causes for this. The first time I stayed up two days in a row without sleep, Everything was still good. So I kept doing it, about once every week maybe even more. Eventually staying awake kept getting harder and harder so I quit doing it, I had learned my lesson and now I'll never abuse anything again, I even quit pot.

The Derealization kicked off when I started producing music, about 5-6 Months ago, I would just sit in front of my computer screen literally almost all day, and I began noticing that after I've passed the peaked from my prescribed amount, I would start feeling really strange, almost like I could stare a brick wall for hours and hours on end and my mind would have this odd pressurized fogginess to it, which would not allow me to create music, or anything really.

So I quit, it felt like I was killing off thousands of brain cells every time I took it.

I've been sleeping relatively good for about a month now and decided to try vyvanse out once more. Yesterday morning I took one pill and everything was going good.

I got on my computer and went to town on FL Studio. Made a 6+ minute Trap + DnB + House hybrid track, My longest beat yet.
You can listen to that song here: https://soundcloud.com/pounceyy/beyond (Mix is kinda low so you'll have to turn up the volume)
It's extremely fast paced, and since I'm being honest here, I was sweating balls from speeding while I was making it lol.

Nearing the end of the song (Around 2PM?) my body started getting numb and my mind began getting foggy, I knew what was coming. If you listened to the song I linked, you can clearly tell that nearing the end, the beat started slacking a bit. Due to the brain fogginess.

After finally finishing it, I began mixing and mastering it. That's when things started getting really bad. I would get a glass of water and sit it on my desk, then about every 15 minutes i'd go get another glass of water, I eventually ended up with 4 full cups of water on my desk. That's not even the worst of it, I was feeling so out of it, I could look up at my ceiling and I wouldn't be able to tell you if I had my legs crossed or not. I didn't feel "in" my body, nor did I feel like I was floating above it.

At around 4PM I was completely finished and decided to upload it to SoundCloud, And through out the rest of the day the feelings previously explained did not get any better nor worse. It's now 10AM The next day and I'm still suffering from brain fogginess, and am slightly still unaware of my surroundings, not nearly as bad though. It should be more less gone by tomorrow if I can get a good long night of sleep.

Now the reason I'm posting this is because I want to see if we together (People who also suffer from DP/DR) can figure out what the fuck causes it.

I first thought it was due to some form of permanent damage of the brain due to sleep deprivation, Which could very well be possible. But then I remember that this all started when I started sitting in front of a rather large computer screen day in and day out.

Could it be sleep deprivation? Or is it the fact that staring at an LCD monitor all day is just plain unnatural for the brain and can mess with your perception? Maybe they tie in together and the combination causes you to spend way to much time in your head thinking? I don't know.

What are your guys opinion? And to the people who also have DP/DR, When did you start getting it? And what might you think caused it?

Also, Does anyone know if all stimulants cause DP/DR? I want to try new medication because otherwise I have no motivation or the attention span to follow my dreams and that really bothers me.
 
All I can say is I was Diagnosed with ADD back In April of 2012 and was prescribed 30 Vyvanse 40 MG by my doctor for the month, planned to be taken every month. I took the first pill the first day and felt kind of weird.. as if I could stare at one music video for 2 hours at a time and I'd go in and out of panic. but at the same time I was feeling "good" the vyvanse was giving me a buzz. Well about 3 days passed and I took my 4th dose I believe and about 3 hours later after taking it my whole body went numb, My heart rate went up to 240 bpm, I knew I was dying, I told my dad I was dying, He asked me what did i do? I said nothing just call the ambulance I'm about to die, and then i broke out into a seizure. Next thing I knew it had been a week and I was in the hospital for an allergic reaction to Amphetamines. The Emts told my parents if they didn't get there any sooner and on oxygen I would have most likely died of heart failure. it took them 3 days to get my blood pressure from 230/125 to normal 120/75 (something like that) . I will always have something against all amphetamines. Imo I think they should be out lawed. There is a lot of alternatives to add/adhd meds. one of them I take is clonidine. it works just fine for my add. No need for these dangerous amphetamines to exist. Vyvanse is a pro-drug for adderall so it's what adderall processes into after it's in the body. I believe. it's been a while (2 and a half years since I was explained this by the hospital) . Dude I was seriously consider just dealing with the condition you have. this drug nearly killed me And I'm not the only one . I know I'm not. Also after the Vyvanse reaction I developed anxiety/panic attacks which I NEVER had before. I fucking hate that these are legal and you can get a doctor to write them. Yeah I might be a hypocrite since I'm addicted to opiates/benzos (oxy/hydro/xanax/suboxone) But atleast I know I'm not gonna die from a heart attack taking opiates. sorry just had to get this off my chest. I haven't talked about my experience with Vyvanse in a while.
 
Wow man, I experienced almost all of this except the seizure part. Music also has sent me in and out of a panic feeling, Only a few times though. Now I'm guessing I was on the verge of having a seizure yesterday because I was numb and I was practically sweating and I nearly blacked out every time I stood up.

I think I have had a seizure from Vyvanse once before a few months ago, I stood up in my chair and walked to my door then blacked out and broke some glass with my head and arm, but those few seconds that I was out, I could still hear and feel to a certain extent, and what I heard was a whole lot of glass & stuff breaking and I even felt myself shaking a little bit, one of the weirdest feelings ever. I don't know for sure though because I was alone.

All I know is I'm never touching vyvanse again. I personally think its just government lab made meth, just a little safer.
 
Wow man, I experienced almost all of this except the seizure part. Music also has sent me in and out of a panic feeling, Only a few times though. Now I'm guessing I was on the verge of having a seizure yesterday because I was numb and I was practically sweating and I nearly blacked out every time I stood up.

I think I have had a seizure from Vyvanse once before a few months ago, I stood up in my chair and walked to my door then blacked out and broke some glass with my head and arm, but those few seconds that I was out, I could still hear and feel to a certain extent, and what I heard was a whole lot of glass & stuff breaking and I even felt myself shaking a little bit, one of the weirdest feelings ever. I don't know for sure though because I was alone.

All I know is I'm never touching vyvanse again. I personally think its just government lab made meth, just a little safer.

Yeah I wouldn't touch it again. And yeah what they are saying below is true also. But I look at a computer lcd screen all day and none of this happens to me lol (: I do my school work and talk to friends and play games on here, never has this happened to me. I think we can all blame it on the vyvanseee :)
 
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