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Vitamins for 2011

delta9 i know my nutritional science and its mostly scam. i read medical journals all the time. vegetables are only proven to be beneficial in extracts with high potency (meaning you might have to eat buckets a day full body to get similar benefits but then ull poison yourself).
all research has been concentrated on IN VITRO on lab mice, with highly potent extracts (specific chemicals).
considering fruits and vegetables have the flavonoids which in many science journals are proven NOT ABLE TO BE ABSORBED IN HUMANS.
same type of flavonoids are extracted in high potency, re-aranged chemicaly and usually used on cell cultures in labs proving that THEY MIGHT help against diseases.
 
Dude your post just screams nutritional ignorance. 8(

Ok then, how about you eat nothing but meat for the next 50 years and I'll eat anything except meat for the next 50 years and we'll both meet back here. Ready, Break!

Spoiler alert - You're going to die first ;)
 
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delta9 nobody said eating only meat will be good you retard. i said eating only meat or only plant food is detrimental over time.
besides usually it does take a really long time if you eat only meat to die and considering only fools want to live forever, i dont take much problem in this IF i cared enough to eat only meat that is. which you completely misunderstood anyway.
 
and there is 100% proof that eating only plant food (adding unnatural supplements to equation to fill in the nutrients) is actually proven healthy ?
i read only vegetarian supporter sites stating such thing without conclusive results.
considering i was not born in usa and in my culture and place where i lived only poor people were eating vegetables because meat was hard to find and none of them lived so to be so healthy.
 
Proof that a diet consisting of meat and plant sources together is overall healthier than plant sources alone? There is none.

No, but there is no evidence a purely vegan or vegetarian diet is healthier, either. The only studies relating to aging benefits from specific diets that have any merit are still fledgling and those are caloric restriction diets. Other than that, all we can say for sure--so far--is that raw unprocessed foods are best.

FWIW, human flesh is the healthiest thing in the world for humans (and likewise for other species too [that others species' flesh I mean]). It contains all nutrients necessary in all the proper ratios. If you ate nothing but human meat and water for the rest of your life, you'd be perfectly healthy.

We should all be cannibals! :D
 
^ exactly. eating too much of anything is causing oxidation. humans are aging naturally, nothing can reverse this but delta9 believes that magically eating "healthy foods" prevents, cures diseases and makes humans not age.
 
It is worth nothing since that is probably the most impractical diet plan ever.

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^ exactly. eating too much of anything is causing oxidation. humans are aging naturally, nothing can reverse this but delta9 believes that magically eating "healthy foods" prevents, cures diseases and makes humans not age.
Another case of failure to read by acesin. Try again once more with feeling :)

edit 2 - actually fuck it you guys ruin all the fun you can have this thread and the other one I'm done.
 
delta9 its too easy to say failure and not even bother discuss it further. i know, too easy to avoid doing.

also its the most simple nick of all, asecin. im sure after seeing it countless times you learn to spell it correct maybe ?
 
Chill out, delta. I know it's impractical. It's was worth mentioning because all of a sudden everyone is enamored with trying to find a perfect diet. Who eats perfectly, anyways?
 
sirtophamhat, he thinks he does. thats why every time i visit this part of the forum i see him giving people advices on how to be perfect eating the perfect food that he doses on daily believing he will live to be 100 without a single sign of a wrinkle.
 
Good reviews people. Lets try and stay away from the meat vs veg debate because i was hoping to get what other people were taking as far as vitamins were concerned. a stack
 
Also, a difference between vitamins D2 and D3 is that D3 is not vegetarian and D2 is. D2 is derived from yeast and D3 is derived from sheep or occaisionally fish. D2 is definitely OTC, at least in the US, I buy it here every few months at a grocery store..
 
vegetables and fruits are rich in b-vitamins and anti-oxidants and animal proteins increase oxidative stress on the body. i don't know what asecin is talking about. fruits and vegetables are much easier for your body to digest and healthier in the long run. my doctor told me this, and i have ready many books that back this up.
 
vegetables and fruits are rich in b-vitamins and anti-oxidants and animal proteins increase oxidative stress on the body. i don't know what asecin is talking about. fruits and vegetables are much easier for your body to digest and healthier in the long run. my doctor told me this, and i have ready many books that back this up.



vegetables and fruits are rich in b-vitamins and anti-oxidant <- LOL that is so wrong i wont comment on it.


animal proteins increase oxidative stress on the body <- lol again everything can cause oxidative stress in your body especially when you eat too much of anything.


fruits and vegetables are much easier for your body to digest and healthier in the long run <- again false. humans are all different. many many people cannot digest specific fruits and vegetables. many of them contain tannins which cause cancer btw and prevent absorption of nutrients.


my doctor told me this <- yes. your doctor, the person who sells drugs to people to "cure" them said this to you. im sure if the good doctor actually recommend for you to eat healthy he will lose his job. he knows what he mentions you wont do as much as you believe
 
i also go to an alternative medicine doctor. in fact, he knows exactly what he is talking about and you are right, he is risking a lawsuit by practicing alternative medicine. but, he is the best doctor i've ever been under the care from.


without him, i would have died years ago from the multitude of chronic illnesses i have.

oh forgot to include my list:

morning:
probiotic, multi-vm, fish oil, folic acid sublingual, vitamin c, vitamin d3, nt factor energy, brm-4 (immune mushroom extract), vitamin a&d caps, neurorepletes, lyme factor plus, immune factor plus

lunch: vitamin c, fish oil, brm-4, r-lipoic acid, riboflavin, zinc picolinate

dinner: multi-vm, probiotic, vitamin c, nt factor energy, lyme factor plus, immune factor plus, fish oil, seleno-methionine, pyridoxine p5p, vitamin e mixed tocopherols, brm-4, acetyl-l-carnitine, ubiquinol, hemp oil
 
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i never said they dont contain b vitamins. it just so little, and based on huge portions with low density that give up trying to get em from that source alone.
for example depending on a condition you might have, you may need up to 100mg of given b vitamin and thats beyond impossible from vegetables
 
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