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Violent civil war over drug legalization inevitable in U.S.?

Have any of you ever heard that old riddle of sorts where everyone lives in a village, and they have everything they want: awesome cars, great life, everything individualized to your personal tastes, except for one caveat; every night, the entire village gathers and 1 person is chosen randomly out of the village to be hanged. It's not really a riddle, but the point in presenting this scenario to someone is to ask whether or not they would choose to live in such a place.

It sounds to me like everyone is completely content to accept this reality in the war on drugs. Yes, I can go out and buy drugs. I can do it again and again. But one day, the wheel is going to stop on my name and it could ruin my life just because of the established order. What about those of you who regularly consume prescription meds, ecstasy, lsd, and once in a while have a bunch of it on you for you and your friends - just trying to have a good time? You're in the village, and the government has more severe punishments than the hanging presented in the village story. Imagine withdrawing from heroin in a county jail, throwing up, shitting, all the while cellmates telling you to shut up before they beat you half to death for bothering them?

How about federal time for being at a giant party with a pocket full of pills? What happens to your life after you leave the penitentiary and no one will hire you or even give you loans to go to school? You are now swimming in shit for the rest of your life, and there's no land in sight. The only reason there's no outright war against this kind of governmental abuse is that the people who get picked for the hanging are too defeated to do anything anymore, and the people who didn't get picked for the hanging are just lucky.

They've got you right where you're supposed to be, but to the people sitting in cells over nothing who have nothing to look forward to there is an extremely violent war going on inside. If enough of these guys don't find Jesus while in the penitentiary, there will eventually be an outburst of people who have nothing to lose demanding that there lives be given back to them, and I don't think the government is capable of doing that.
 
captainballs said:
I can't really see it happening any other way, unfortunately. People want to use drugs, govt says no because of a, b, and c. People hold protests and get miniscule laws changed. A state or two largely doesn't mind if you smoke weed and grow it. But the federal govt holds the cards, and the answer to legalization is an unequivocal "no" from their end. So eventually this is going to turn violent. It's the only way things get taken care of in less than two lifetimes of waiting for the political machine.....
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Weed heads - Can't we all toke up and be friends? :) Fighting? War? Let's just chill and watch a movie instead.

Prescription Pill Poppers - Sure I can fight, just gotta make sure I can take these handful of pills every few hours.

E Bombers = <3 PLUR!!!!! <3

Shroomers = Why war? Human nature is so cyclical *ponders for several hours*

Coke/crackheads = WAR!!! *5-20 minutes later* COKE!!!!...Back to the war!!! *20 minutes later* COKE!!!....fuck it, lets get some booze and party

Alchy's = Dude I will totally fight in the war, that sounds like an excellent idea. I always thought you were full of great ideas, I just never got around to telling you. *Next day* .....Oh man, what was I thinking last night. I hope no one remembers that.

Smackheads = Fuck ya.....*nods* Dude I'll totally fiii....*nods*......10 hours later....I can't fight now! The yawns are coming on, I'm starting to feel nauseated, plus it seems pointless now. I need smack.

Meth/amps = WAR! We'll kick ass the first 3 days, but then we have to take on the regular people AND the shadow people, not gonna work bro.



Sorry to shoot it down, but nah, it ain't happenin' :) ;)
 
^ well you don't think very highly of your drug using peers.

What about the sober folk, awfully soft.

I think we could take em'. Im cocked glocked and loaded. Especially loaded.
(this post was in good fun, there is no glock sitting next to me I assure you)
 
well, if you're on a sedating drug, you're not willing to fight. If you're off it , most of the time you are trying to recover or are in severe withdrawal. If you have your stuff, why fight?

if you're on uppers, you won't trust anyone enough to allow real cooperation, make bad tactical and strategical decisions because of sleep and food deprivation.

if you're on hallucinogens, you understand everyone and dont wanna fight.

You'd need a mostly drug free leader to lead such a resistance. However, if he is a non-addicted, non-using guy who earns great amounts of money, why the hell should he want to lead anyone to legalization, which would cut their incomes by huge margins, because most likely the pharma industry would take over and knock them off the market due to sheer engineering power to create drugs ever more desired and maybe less harmful (like happened to almost all legal drugs for health care).

The only real reason for people who have power and money to legalize anything is a huge lack of governmental money, like in Cal now.

Personally, I'd rather have the world ending because everyone is high and not caring than to continue with war, deceit, religion and so on, things which make me want to vomit. It's just like with cancer, if you cant treat curatively, you treat palliatively.
 
i don't see it happening.

drug dealers have the firepower, but they lose if drugs are legalized. and i just don't think drug users are willing to risk their lives in an armed conflict, especially given how little legal status has to do with availability.

there are some big civil rights issues, and a lot of people who are fed up with the drug war, but i just don't think that the majority of drug users really care about that stuff. bluelight is kind of a self-selecting population, since the people here are here because they are interested in more about drugs than just using them. but i think the population of people who feel passionately about the issue is far too small for any kind of successful violence to seem feasible.
 
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