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VERY intense and AWFUL LSD trip - ended up hospitalised.

Nathanm

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I would just like to get this story out there, you can ask for details If I miss out anything that you would like to know.. please note that this will be told in a story like fashion as I have bad amnesia from the event and can't remember exact details..

The night started out with a mate and I looking for something to do, I was 17 at the time (this was only a couple of months ago), it so happened that another friend of ours had a free house. We decided we would get some drugs for the night. Called up dealers etc etc and came across some very pure ketamine from a trusted source, the dealer told us that we were in the area of a dealer who did the best acid in London. We bought 2 tabs of this dealer (unsure on dosage of tab but they were very strong and definitely LSD, I have done nbomes etc and this was my first time on acid - very different effects, more fluid and less digital and nbome)

Upon arriving to my friends house, I immediately snorted a large 150mg line of ketamine, after about 25 mins or so I was nice and wonkey. My friend did not do as much ketamine but did do some, unsure on dosage. We then proceeded to take our LSD. Initial high was great, we were walking around my friends house laughing at how large our pupils where and generally having a nice trip.

Here is where I forget a lot of what happened, I only remember fragments so it is a little hard to describe what went down..

at around 2-3 we all ended up on my friends bed, laughing at stupid things and talking about spagetti as you do. Then suddenly from my point of view I teleport to the kitchen, all my friends are standing there not moving, I was stuck in a frozen world for what seemed hours and hours. I became incredibly agitated. After about 5 or 6 hours of walking around the house trying to "start" time again I gave up and fell asleep on the sofa. I wake up to my friends around me telling me stop screaming and that I was going to wake the neighbours. I get up and realise im screaming, but again I am stuck in a timeless loop... Waking up to my friends saying stop screaming, then going back to bed, then waking up, STOP SCREAMING, going back to bed.. this went on for an insanely long amount of time, I can't even describe how scared I was that this loop would never end, from my point of view I was doing this over and over for at least a day..

Next segment of memory I remember - I am in the kitchen, my friend is putting my head in the sink, I can smell sick and I can feel the tension in the room, something was seriously wrong.. my friends tell me now that I was having a seizure in my sleep and screaming and crying..

Then blank. Next thing my feet are very cold, I realise I am outside with no shoes on being walked slowly to the back of an ambulance, I hear the crew saying "Nathan, Nathan can you hear me? Nathan". I was completely convinced that I was seeing a vision of my future if I didn't stop taking drugs. The vision was that I was the victim of a car crash, thats what I thought had happened, I could clearly see a crashed car and I felt like I was 10 or 15 years in the future. I remember parts of the ambulance ride, but not much. Again I was told that I was having serious seizures in the ambulance and my heart was stopping and starting.

Next memory, I am in hospital, I am handcuffed to my hospital bed in agony, the pain is coming from my right arm, I had been injected with something but the nature of the trip made the pain incredibly intense. My parents are staring at me crying, I ask my mum is she is real, she replies "yes, yes I am" and breaks down into tears, I can see peoples emotions in colour, my mum was blue/purple - this meant to me at the time disappointment, sadness and extreme anxiety. My dad was blue/red - this meant to me anger and disappointment. I was given large doses of valium to calm me down, the visuals of the acid are coming down and I am starting regain an understanding of the real world. The doctor asks me "do you know where you are?" I said "yes, I'm at a hospital what is going on please tell me I have no fucking clue whats going on".

The doctor goes on to tell me that they had to knock me out, I had to be restrained because I was screaming, punching and shouting. They told me While trying to get me out of the ambulance I was hysterical, crying and screaming, they called the police to try and get me out as I was in such a dangerous state and I punched the officer in the face and broke my handcuffs. Eventually they managed to strap me down into a hospital bed and sedate me (I do not know what with).

The next memory I remember is being given lots of valium and being walked to my car so my parents could take me home, I was the given valium to keep me calm for the next two days.

This was the worst experience of my life, I have lost friends due to it and my parents will never look at me the same way, I just wish to share it with the community. I took every precaution - trip sitters, reliable sources etc but perhaps K-holing on a very strong lsd tab was just too much for me at the time.

I look back on the experience without regret however, as it has taught me to value my health, learn that I am not invincible and has stopped me taking stupid amounts of drugs at any one time (I still believe the substances I took where safe). I have no idea why this happened, neither do the doctors as they agree that what I took should not have affects my heart rate so drastically or caused me to have such awful seizures.

Anyway, my message is to any new user, research, research, research and know your limits! I wouldn't put my worst enemy through this experience. Thank you.

Any questions please ask.
 
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I'd also like to add - I cut my hand with a blade repeatedly to try and "start" time again..
 
Good report man. I have never done K before but is it possible you got K-holed? That's the only thing I can think of.

By the way you should edit out the prices in the beginning. Price naming is against the rules.

Glad your safe
 
I K-holed and as I was coming out of it I took the acid, obviously something went drastically wrong, if anyone knows what may have happened they should post to let people know.. even the doctors where baffled, LSD should NOT play with your heart, neither should ketamine
 
You gotta remember that the human brain is still a big mystery. What might not be harmful for most people, could be deadly to another.

Something obviously didn't mix right in your brain.

If you want more people to see your question I suggest posting it in Basic Drug Discussion.
 
Thanks for your sharing.
Too often the risks of recreational drug use are underestimated leading to serious consequences. New drugs and new combinations can't be approached with too much caution. Synergistic effects often result in experiences exceeding the usual response of the individual substance if not combined, 1+1=3 . LSD and LSD like hallucinogens combined with dissociatives especially arylcyclohexamines like ketamine are spectacularly synergistic, something like 1+1=5. A more sane starting dose would have been maybe a half hit of the acid and maybe 40mg of the K. Later after you see how the smaller dose's effects you, you can raise the dose next time appropriately based upon experience.
I am, however, quite surprised about the seizures. I personally have taken ridiculously large doses of LSD with huge doses of K's brother PCP many times, and although I was fantastically deranged, I never experienced seizures( except doing overdoses of IV cocaine). I honestly wonder if the LSD might have been something else or if you had residuals of other drugs from other days that were involved as well. Regardless you would be wise to exercise caution using any substances that effect seizure threshold as you might have epileptic tendencies which can be aggravated into becoming full blown epilepsy by incautious chemical exposure; the more seizures one experiences the more susceptible to another one becomes.
Anyway, I wish you the best.
 
I'm sorry that you've lost some friends because of this. Have you spoken to them about it? Whilst you took the substances wrecklessly (by your own admission) what happened was more or less beyond your control once the trip was underway. If my friend had had an experience like yours I would be unbelievably worried and wouldn't shun them after because things got messy. Perhaps they'll learn if it ever happens to them.
 
That was a great report mate. It just goes to show that even with research and common sense things can still go awry. I'm sorry to hear that you lost some friends to this. I wouldn't bunk out on a friendship just over a bad drug experience. I hope you're doing better now and that everything's cleared up with your family.
I'm just wondering, were you charged because you punched the officer in the face or was that let slip?
 
Yeah I can say from experience that K and Acid synergies particularly well. Although I do the K after I start peaking on the acid, but the tiniest amount seriously intensifies an LSD experience.
 
Thank you for the kind words, I have received nothing from the police so I am still unsure whether they let this slip or I have been charged with something. I am fine now, but it did take a while to recover. I am connected with my family there are no more issues..
 
I K-holed and as I was coming out of it I took the acid, obviously something went drastically wrong, if anyone knows what may have happened they should post to let people know.. even the doctors where baffled, LSD should NOT play with your heart, neither should ketamine

I'm almost certain you received DOC and not LSD due to the heart issues. They can both fit on blotter, and most people that put DOC on blotter don't do it properly. They either use the wrong paper and absorb too much or they don't mix the DOC right and create hot spots on the blotters. Your friends might have received less than you, so they didn't feel how intense this compound can be. In your case the residual ketamine high likely masked the stimulation of the DOC until a few hours in. DOC is long lasting and drains your brain. It's particularly bad if you have depression or anxiety.

It's fun at first, but a few hours in the euphoria dies down as the stimulation and psychedelic effects continue. Anxiety sets in and it's a miserable ride for hours after that. DOC at first feels like you took the best LSD ever and immediately snorted a bunch of meth, so at first it's all sunshine and rainbows. But then the comedown is speedy and causes a lot of dysphoria, and it can last for an entire day sometimes making sleep almost impossible. Don't trust anything you get anymore, especially LSD since it likely isn't LSD no matter what your idiot friends or the dealer says. The worst trips of my life have come from DOC, and that can be said for most of my friends that have taken it too.
 
Don't trust anything you get anymore, especially LSD since it likely isn't LSD no matter what your idiot friends or the dealer says. The worst trips of my life have come from DOC, and that can be said for most of my friends that have taken it too.
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I don't believe you got Dox or RC's unless you got it tested. It likely isnt an RC no matter what your friends or some guy on the internet says. Lots of new users blame all the bad trips on something else.
 
I'm sorry that you've lost some friends because of this. Have you spoken to them about it? Whilst you took the substances wrecklessly (by your own admission) what happened was more or less beyond your control once the trip was underway. If my friend had had an experience like yours I would be unbelievably worried and wouldn't shun them after because things got messy. Perhaps they'll learn if it ever happens to them.

i wouldn't shun the op BUT he chose to take loads of drugs, had a major freakout, tried to cut his wrists. you can see how after this you would want to distance yourself for a few weeks/months. especially if your friendship revolved around taking drugs all the time. the one thing you wont be doing with the op is giving him any more drugs...
 
I hope this doesn't come off any sort of way but since you are young I am going to tell you what someone told me a long time ago: stick to one thing at a time don't mix drugs. Don't even mix weed and beer man do one or the other.
 
It's fun at first, but a few hours in the euphoria dies down as the stimulation and psychedelic effects continue. Anxiety sets in and it's a miserable ride for hours after that. DOC at first feels like you took the best LSD ever and immediately snorted a bunch of meth, so at first it's all sunshine and rainbows. But then the comedown is speedy and causes a lot of dysphoria, and it can last for an entire day sometimes making sleep almost impossible. Don't trust anything you get anymore, especially LSD since it likely isn't LSD no matter what your idiot friends or the dealer says. The worst trips of my life have come from DOC, and that can be said for most of my friends that have taken it too.

That's not how I perceive DOC. I agree about the euphoria at first, and then more stimultation and psychedelics but I find it *extremely relaxing*, with a motivational boost (albeit a bit tired) after the comedown.

Anyway it could explain something if the OP was given DOC. Must indeed suck if you think it's LSD.
 
Don't trust anything you get anymore, especially LSD since it likely isn't LSD no matter what your idiot friends or the dealer says. The worst trips of my life have come from DOC, and that can be said for most of my friends that have taken it too.
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I don't believe you got Dox or RC's unless you got it tested. It likely isnt an RC no matter what your friends or some guy on the internet says. Lots of new users blame all the bad trips on something else.

I'm guessing you were trying to quote me. I would bet good money that a huge minority, if not the majority, of drugs out there are passed off as something they aren't. I didn't pull the DOC idea out of my ass. There already aren't many psychedelics that cause a high degree of stimulation. Taking that into account we can narrow it down even further based on psychedelic stimulants that can fit on blotter. He has experience with nbomes, which means he likely knows what 25i feels like. DOC is very similar to LSD initially. It's the increased heart rate that really makes the two different. I have a very low resting heart rate, but DOC will put mine over 110 BPM. Too much DOC can lead to really bad psychosis as well. Basically all his symptoms point to DOC, which is also very common right now thanks to how cheap it is.

That's not how I perceive DOC. I agree about the euphoria at first, and then more stimultation and psychedelics but I find it *extremely relaxing*, with a motivational boost (albeit a bit tired) after the comedown.

Anyway it could explain something if the OP was given DOC. Must indeed suck if you think it's LSD.

Have you ever taken a high dose? It's very difficult to measure so most people that put it on blotters do it wrong. I've seen a couple people have serious psychotic episodes as they came down. This is probably the sudden drop in serotonin and the rapid heart rate which causes anxiety. The psychedelic factor hasn't gone away at that point in the trip either, almost guaranteeing a bad trip. What makes a bad trip on DOC so much different than other psychedelics is your heart rate just keeps rising and rising which makes you more and more anxious.
 
I've seized on MXE several times. In fact, one time it was starting to have such bad effects on my body (seizures, water retention, etc.) I just threw it all away. Even if you were no longer holed it was still working in your body.
 
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I've seized on MXE several times. In fact, one time it was starting to have such bad effects on my body (seizures, water retention, etc.) I just threw it all away. Even if you were no longer holed it was still working in your body.

Ketamine doesn't seem to have an effect on seizure thresholds or induce seizures, even in epileptics. If the trip reporter was prone to seizures, then it was possibly the "LSD" that caused (though, numerous grand mal seizures wouldn't be likely). But this is still unlikely. The seizures and heart problems point to an amphetamine overdose. Unless he took another stimulant he didn't tell us about, or he's epileptic, then I'm certain he got DOC and not LSD. The DOC probably had a hot spot on it, and if the trip reporter didn't have any real stimulant tolerance then it likely caused an overdose.
 
Agree it was some kind of stimulant overdose, but doesn't Ketamine also have some stimulant propoerties, like MXE? Or is it stricktly a downer?
 
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