Stimulants Using IV a-PCyP, my experience so far.

[bluecollartweeker]

Used to only smoke meth before my addiction and tolerance led me from 20mg a weekend to some months later habitually slamming 100-300mg (not at once) per day just to feel some relief from my depression and ADD, after I slammed the last point of my bag-n'-bottle scraped flake, my dealer died, and so I tried a-PCyP as my fix, over a wee bit under a month I smoked 5g like a crackhead who won a scratch off and realized quickly how compulsive cathinone's can be even when every hit just made me more paranoid and neurotic , still that cat made a just nearly passable enough replacement o keep me from asking around the alley bums for hits of scrape. When I only smoked it I figured it too Moorish and anxiogenic, frustratingly hypersexual yet made climax nearly impossible, couldn't ever cum on that drug but by god did I give it a college try till my veins were dry. My girlfriend did not enjoy that aspect and it was embarrassing as hell.
But then when I used the a-PCyP intravenously with my girl it felt like the first time I ever got tweaked and the first time I ever got to fuck her beautiful soul. it became my DOCs ROA-OC
we fucked for hours and I had the focus of a neurotypical non-tard unlike my usual inept, distracted, scattered, dysregulated behavior.
IV was the only ROA that seemed to have the majority of useful and manageable effects with the least paranoia, hypertension, discomposing frenetic bath salt face eating behavior, or suicide yearningly low crash. Just fatigue, stimdick (even on 50mg viagra and 20mg cialis) and I was pointlessly and regrettably argumentative the morning after (not as much so as phenidate aggression, more just causeless frustration but thankfully not the kind of argument a good kiss and chocolate couldn't fix.) although my threshold dose IV is 50mg, and I use 100+ often, I have badly high tolerance to NDRIs and genetic dopaminergic neurological disorders (I have TRD and ADD but Parkinson-like muscle movement disorders (PNS dopaminergic) and narcolepsy (CNS) run in both sides of my fetid genepool), so dont dose like I do if your going to lab-rat yourself with Chinese power crystals.

IV (painless if done legit, but a missed shot will fuck you up like halogenated phenmetrazines. 3c,4f,4m all collapsed my veins back in the days of youthful ignorance and speed adoration. same risk I think as bupropion, lucky for my limbs I'm a pretty good shot and only slammed bup once when I had crystalline pure triple re-x and filtered bup I used o snuff up. it was way less potent than vaped but way more enjoyable and vaping needs highly delicate method as to neither burn the bottom of a pile or inhale powder, (rocks always burn and melt at the same time which is nasty and the mix of vapor and smoke is pungent, nothing like meth or freebase phenyl morpholines with their crackback and smooth clear clouds.. IV use had nearly no compulsive redosing, but I did use 5 100mg doses over all (i have an absurdly problematic IV meth tolerance so dont dose like me a tweaker speedfreak with ounces of crank to slam and ADD so had 150mg mainlined gets me feelin sober)

shot up once this morning with no overwhelming urge to redose, and i have yet to spontaneously combust, necrotize, cannabalize, or fuck a dozen of HIV positive linebackers. 7/10 stim

 

[negrogesic]

As far as the pyrrolidine synthetic cathinones go, I found a-PCyP to be the least moreish by far, even when vaped. That said, considering how related drugs (like a-PVP) are just about as moreish as freebase cocaine, even the least compulsive substances of this class are still quite compulsive. Never tried IVing it, but interestingly, I found that a-PCyP is actually a decent functional stimulant when taken orally, even at good sized doses. This is fairly unusual for drugs of this class, which tend to produce a scattered stimulation of limited usefulness (though MDPV is functional at low oral doses).

Sometimes when it comes to stimulants, sometimes the IV ROA produces effects that somewhat resemble the clean, smooth effects of oral dosing (separate of any initial rush that IV admin might produce). But I'm not sure what the health implications might be of frequent/regular IV doses of a-PCyP (particularly on the vascular system). Other that, it is a fairly gentle and forgiving stimulant as far as synthetic cathinones goes, not particularly adrenergic feeling, lacks a horrible comedown, and as far as mechanism of action, is probably less neurotoxic than methamphetamine. Plus, it much easier to sleep and eat when using a-PCyP when compared to meth.

Still, can't imagine cramming that stuff down my veins on a regular basis. Since it's not a particularly euphoric drug anyhow, you're probably better taking it orally. But again, I never IV'd. But when vaped I found it to be pretty lame, not euphoric, though fairly compulsive. But I think I was just trying to squeeze an a-PVP type high out of it, which just isn't possible with a-PCyP.

 

[bluecollartweeker]

Your right about all that.
I slam it because of my needle fixation and the effects on my body so far arent as bad as missed shots of meth (ate holes through my sub-q) but the missed pyro shots give massive massssive bruises compared to anything ive missed.
needle fixation is so hard to overcome, ive had nicotine, albuteral, caffeine, meth, mcat, apcyp, 4 substituted phenmetrazines, and atleast an ounce total of intravenous PEA hcl but nothing did more damadge than missing shots of that wet super clear biker ice meth, think it was still soaked in solvents, only thing that came close to that mess was missing a shot of 3fpm in my thigh and not being able to walk for a good few hours withought falling over in pain. But that was way way back, i shoot up with as much acuracy and hygine as i really can as a working class speed junkie. My arms show the damadge as bright as my neon vest lol

 

[bluecollartweeker]

diminishing returns and bad track marks day after the binge, going to try 3f-pihp perhaps next month if I can.
edit, crash is easy to handle honestly I could never recommend iv drug use unless your already in it. the damage is real, and my body image is starting to really affect my love life despite the sexual context of cathinone use. but if anyone here wanted to know, it is slammable

 

[higherconciousness]

So no one has tried 3f-pihp? i tried searching for threads. Dont react well to acpyc and apihp is drying up so im curious if anyone has expericne with it.

 

[bluecollartweeker]

I've got 5g incoming, once mine arrives in the mail ill post my experiences here

 

[negrogesic]

So no one has tried 3f-pihp? i tried searching for threads. Dont react well to acpyc and apihp is drying up so im curious if anyone has expericne with it.

No, but I can only imagine it's worse than a-phip.

I remember 3F-PHP was like an anxiety attack in powder form. Oddly, it had a strong prosexual, but was pretty much unbearable without a benzo. I would imagine that 3f-phip is pretty mild though, since a-phip is quite mild itself.

 

[negrogesic]

Your right about all that.
I slam it because of my needle fixation

Yeah I was always the opposite. I never liked IVing drugs, in fact I hated the process of shooting up more and more over time (especially since it became more difficult due to loss of usable veins). I wonder if people with needle fixation tend to be those that shoot up alot of stimulants, because I almost exclusively shot up opioids (like heroin or pharmaceutical opioids) and only rarely stimulants.

 

[bluecollartweeker]

I went through almost 3g iv on a 70+ hour binge i was more manic and sexual but not very potent. 50mg per cc felt abut right. Got tweaked fast tho

 

[bluecollartweeker]

Yeah I was always the opposite. I never liked IVing drugs, in fact I hated the process of shooting up more and more over time (especially since it became more difficult due to loss of usable veins). I wonder if people with needle fixation tend to be those that shoot up alot of stimulants, because I almost exclusively shot up opioids (like heroin or pharmaceutical opioids) and only rarely stimulants.

Its hell lately im in hospital for the next 8 days getting infectons treated and i have few good veins left, but i also think its a self harming thing that makes me feel less guilty subconsciusly

 

[SouthBendRickyG#1]

As far as the pyrrolidine synthetic cathinones go, I found a-PCyP to be the least moreish by far, even when vaped. That said, considering how related drugs (like a-PVP) are just about as moreish as freebase cocaine, even the least compulsive substances of this class are still quite compulsive. Never tried IVing it, but interestingly, I found that a-PCyP is actually a decent functional stimulant when taken orally, even at good sized doses. This is fairly unusual for drugs of this class, which tend to produce a scattered stimulation of limited usefulness (though MDPV is functional at low oral doses).

Sometimes when it comes to stimulants, sometimes the IV ROA produces effects that somewhat resemble the clean, smooth effects of oral dosing (separate of any initial rush that IV admin might produce). But I'm not sure what the health implications might be of frequent/regular IV doses of a-PCyP (particularly on the vascular system). Other that, it is a fairly gentle and forgiving stimulant as far as synthetic cathinones goes, not particularly adrenergic feeling, lacks a horrible comedown, and as far as mechanism of action, is probably less neurotoxic than methamphetamine. Plus, it much easier to sleep and eat when using a-PCyP when compared to meth.

Still, can't imagine cramming that stuff down my veins on a regular basis. Since it's not a particularly euphoric drug anyhow, you're probably better taking it orally. But again, I never IV'd. But when vaped I found it to be pretty lame, not euphoric, though fairly compulsive. But I think I was just trying to squeeze an a-PVP type high out of it, which just isn't possible with a-PCyP.

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