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Harm Reduction using hospital lines to iv drugs

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Greenlighter
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I went to the hospital for some mild dehydration and the nurse put an IV in the vein in the left side of my right arm, so that they could hook me up right away in case i needed any fluids, meds, whatever.

There was no need and the doctor sent me on my way , but I still have the IV taped to my arm. Once I am properly hydrated I have decided to shoot some of my own stash.

Let me be clear that I have never IVed anything before in my life - I decided not to because am a thin female with bad veins- sometimes even nurses miss when drawing blood, or call in someone else to assist.

Here however almost all the work has been done for me and I am less worried about injuring myself. I'd appreciate it if someone could help detail the last few steps specific to my situation (I have already read several general IV guides)... e.g. what type of needle to use, how to insert it into my hospital IV, how not to miss, any other risks or ways to mess up the shot, etc) I know it must seem obvious but this is new territory for me and I want to be safe. thanks!
 
Well first things first have you ever ived before? Because if not then you shouldn't start.

Other then that there are some differences when it comes to hospital Ivs and the normal shooting up, first off hospital Ivs don't use needles anymore, your Goin to need a syringe that the needle will unscrew from, then you just twist the syringe onto the part that connects, see if there's still a blood return, if not it may still be in the vein but being blocked for whatever reason, flushing it with water can help make sure your still in if it doesn't puff up and start hurting. If all is agogo then cook your junk like normal, make sure you filter extremely well, also see if you can get hospital grade syringes that hold more then 1 cc, I get ten cc rigs tha work wonderful, you can use more water this way, next your going to need a syringe with just water as a flush or else half of the product will just be left in the tubing, after shooting you shoot the flush to get everything into the vein. Not to mention use alcohol wipes to sterilize the cap that you twist the syringe on.

Other then that just make sure you clamp off when your done and don't use the iv for more then 3 days, or you'll run a greater risk of infection then you already are.

Anymore questions just post or pm me, I only use Ivs for injections so I have a lot of knowledge to spare.
 
I just noticed you said you never ived before, you really shouldn't start now but if you do do a LOT less then you normally would just to see how it gets you, then go up from there. Also lOok in the other threads for help on mixing your stuff for injection, to learn how.

But I'm tellin you you really shouldn't play with fire.
 
Damn this looks a hell of a lot more complicated than i was hoping. Honestly though I will probably try to iv, one way or another.... even though it is not a wise choice. I just hope to at least cause the least amount of damage as possible, whether that be the hsopital iv route or on my own. I had looked through the threads for tips aimed at people with bad or difficult veins long ago and realized actually hitting the vein seems like a shot in the dark, so when I got hooked up at the hospital it seemed like the easy solution.

I know what you mean about those screws, once I got toradol IV and the nurse screwed on the toradol to the part that connects and flushed with saline every once in a while. I know bl doesnt allow sourcing, but is it ok to ask if such screw-on syringes are obtainable for the general public ?

if not, is it even possible to use any sort normal syringe with the hospital iv?

as for shooting up in general - at the crook of my arm my veins are really thin, barely visible if at all, and they roll. a nurse once showed me how to 'feel' the vein she was drawing blood from, but shes a professional, i am far from that. the only veins i have that pop out at all when i clench my fist are towards the lower wrist (they sort of form a zig zag pattern), but apparently that is dangerous because i could hit an artery.

anyway menaces, or any other iv users for that matter - your input is greatly appreciated, and it looks like I have tons more reading to do...
 
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OP, the specific instructions for how to inject into your IV line will depend on what kind of line has been established.

Here is a link with some illustrations and information about using IV lines. Depending on what you currently have, additional tubing with connectors may be needed.

You asked about risks - injecting something non-sterile always carries risks. All of the standard blood infection, endocarditis and other organ infections still apply.

http://www.healthwarehouse.com/need...le-syringe-without-needle-10cc-100-count.html

I don't think is sourcing because it has to do with harm reduction, but if I'm breaking a rule mods please feel free to edit this. This is what you need.

That is perfectly fine :) the only sourcing we allow is for harm reduction supplies, like this.
 
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to IV in those tubes you need the same needles that users use to inject in there groin and you dont need the needle end you just the plunger part every time iv seen them at exchanges etc the big ones you use for your groin the needle is seperate from the plunger use that.
 
The issue with this is that most drugs people IV are not sterile and pure. Putting contaminated, impure drugs into your circulatory system is bad enough, and then on top of that, you have an IV line sitting in you at all times. This is different from merely using an insulin syringe to inject.
 
Wait they left the IV line when they sent you home? Is there a reason because that is simply asking for an infection not to mention im sure its uncomfortable as hell.
 
i thought it was illegal to leave with it still in your arm, since it's the hospitals propery.. but i guess if they forgot it than it ain't your fault.. but i wouldn't keep it in too long and when taking out make sure you put pressure on it for a few minutes with a tissue or something so you don't bleed everywhere, not that it would be *tons* of blood, but some will come out.
 
If you want to try IV but don't want to risk fucking yourself up, have you ever tried plugging? I'm amazed how many people here have never given it a whirl.

Anyway the point is plugging gives you almost the same high as IV but with none of the risk.

I highly recommend it!
 
I understand a long time has passed, but had I injected right away after leaving would it still be that much more dangerous than injecting with an insulin syringe?
Less dangerous probably as you wouldn't have to worry about missing the vein. The only danger with it is infection. Similar to an open wound but an infection could be worse as it is right into your vein. I mentioned using long term portal catheters as an alternative to shooting drugs a while back.

Regarding plugging I think it is better compared to snorting than IVing. It is commonly viable method of administration with generally many upsides that people do tend to overlook though.
 
I'd be worried about clogging your line up with drug gunk.

When I had a PIC line after brain surgery the nurses were quite picky over what could be inserted. Anything too thick and the line would just be useless. Then you'd have the awkward moment when the doctor asks you why your line is blocked.
 
Thanks everyone. I am aware of the high bioavailability of plugging in many cases, and yes I have tried it. My main interest in IV is for its rush. I'll abstain for now though and try to learn as much possible about IVs in general.

Menaces and JaydenJohn, or anyone else who IVs, can you comment on whether the syringes in Menace's link and the needles that JaydenJohn said are used in the groin are the same or different? If they are different, could either be used to inject into a hospital IV like the one I had, theoretically?

to refresh your memories,


Originally Posted by JaydenJohn
to IV in those tubes you need the same needles that users use to inject in there groin and you dont need the needle end you just the plunger part every time iv seen them at exchanges etc the big ones you use for your groin the needle is seperate from the plunger use that.

Thanks.
 
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