US - Prescription for effectiveness

A state owned database for people's prescription history?

What's to prevent that data from being mined and given to the companies who make the drugs? That data would be amazing for economic and marketing purposes. You would know exactly which demographic uses your drug the most and where to focus your advertising budget.

Also, do you want the government knowing you're an oxycontin addict? All government databases cross-connect in today's world because of homeland security.

Maybe I'm paranoid but I'd rather only my doctor have this info about me.

 

I do belive opiate painkillerz are prescribed quite loosley.They are in the UK and what i,ve read in america also.So sorry for the ladys loss of her son heartbreaking!!. There needs to be a more stringent system when it comes to prescribing opiate painkillers i feel.This is coming from a person who is battling Addiction to Dihydrocodeine!!!!

Aren't painkillers OTC there in the UK?

hydrocodone/apap solution is schedule III narcotic here in the US. Most pharmacists here will give you dirty looks unless you are wincing in pain...

They are insane with the harder stuff like oxycodone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, etc.

you really need to know a pretty cool doctor to get opiate scripts here in the US. You can't just walk in any clinic and get them.

 

Amazing. Blame everyone except the person who themselves deliberately put the drugs into their own body. I can understand her grief, but she needs to realize there's only ONE person to blame for her son's death: himself. "Oh no not Garrett he was a sweet little angel who would never do anything wrong". Or is personal responsibility an antiquated idea nowadays?

 

b1t- we fully agree that base is, almost 100.0000%, the devil lol. However, why do you think, then, that the appropriate way to regulate it is to ban it? Do you suspect that will reduce the # of people who base? Do you think it will make the lives of the basers, and their effects upon society, safer?
I don't advocate making crack legal because I think it's an acceptable product to use, i advocate it because it achieves better results for baseheads, it makes society safer from baseheads, and i'm not worried because i know it will do little to change the baseheads-per-capita in any given area. [on a different level, of ethics/morality, i think it's inherently wrong for the state to say yes/no to getting high, but it's not even necessary to go there to get across that prohibition - even of crack - is misguided at best and is far inferior to legality on ALL axis *except* for that of punishment, ie a person who gets high deserves a punishment for doing so, just like someone who steals or assaults]

 

Well Virginia just enforced this system in July. This applies to any C2, C3 controlled substances. But u can drive to DC and u have different laws even how scripts needs to be written. To be honest, prescription drugs are hard to monitor and an overdose can happen with/without monitoring. The guy that died at 20 was an unfortunate case.

 

wtf article did you read?

 

Dude I am a rebel just like you and hate laws in general BUT there must be some - there are law3s of physics and laws of nature to name but a few systems - there must be some ways to make sure people are not killing themselves using pain medication recreationally - they have no place doing it.

Thanks for the insight though, but really it all boils down to information - there would already be better controls if the US government didn't actually want people ODing (population control) or getting hook on pharms (cash-cows).

Information and education from an early age to stop children needing to turn to drugs in first place when they get older.

Also what the hell dude - whilst shooting speedballs is your decision, it is a bad one, and very very wrong. There shouldn't be laws against doing so, as I am not a prohibitionist, BUT whoever is actually doing speedballs needs a good talking to.

PA - hahah kinda funny.

Actually the whole point of my post was to show the fact that laws do not change a thing. Granted i was pretty fucked up when i wrote it so yeah . I have never driven anything other then a all terrain vehicle on a path that cars are unable to drive on while impaired on anything and in that case i am only going to hurt myself if i roll the bike or whatever. People do not follow or break laws because they happen to be on a law book made up by elitists. If they scrapped all laws tomorrow and dismantled every police force i doubt one would notice much if any increase in crime. I didn't stop using cocaine because i suddenly found out that what i was doing was illegal i stopped using it because i realized that i would be lucky to last 6 months if i kept it up. The reasons why i have never murdered someone, raped someone, molested a child, taken advantage of some woman's misfortune to pimp her out and make money for myself that way, stolen from a poor person to benefit myself while letting them starve, etc, etc also have nothing at all to do with it being against Canadian law either i assure you. It all has to do with what i consider right and wrong so my own personal morality essentially. There are plenty of legal things i would not do either because they go against my own morals. I would say that this is also the case with the vast majority of the rest of the people living on this planet as well.

The law and order types really do baffle me. Do they honestly think that something has to be wrote on a piece of paper with illegal wrote next to it in order for people not to do it? As for prohibition of drugs i think they should all be made legal as the harm caused by prohibition right from prices inflated due to their illegality up to the number of lives ruined because people can't get a decent job or even a passport after catching a drug charge far outweighs the ill effects of any drugs. Alcohol tends to make people much more violent then most commonly used illegal drugs but noone in their right mind would ever think that bringing back the prohibition of alcohol would be a good idea.Why? Because through that little experiment performed in the US the world learned (or should have learned ) that making a drug illegal not only does nothing to offset the harm caused by the drug itself but that the illegality of the drug produces a fuck of alot more harm then the drug itself ever could.

I also don't see how the laws of physics have anything at all to do with anti-drug legislation. Unless one was making the point that the laws of physics are a example of natural law. The laws we have to live under and in fear of are invented by men to fulfill their own agenda just like the religions we use to justify those laws. The laws of physics are not made by man where as the laws of countries and the religious morals they use to enforce them are man made and self serving.

 

that little experiment performed in the US the world learned (or should have learned ) that making a drug illegal not only does nothing to offset the harm caused by the drug itself but that the illegality of the drug produces a fuck of alot more harm then the drug itself ever could.

You know what's incredible is that the same cartels that bring the drugs over the mexican border are the same ones who used to bootleg and make moonshine and speakeasy's

 

interesting historically, but it really amounts to nothing more than "smugglers smuggle". Modern DTO's have very little in common with prohibition-era dto's except some basic requirements (interesting wiki for sure tho!)

 

interesting historically, but it really amounts to nothing more than "smugglers smuggle". Modern DTO's have very little in common with prohibition-era dto's except some basic requirements (interesting wiki for sure tho!)

Same familias man. Same organizations.

 

one more excursion into your personal life. I know a kid who died from second-hand smoke, let's track everyone who smokes marlboros; remember to track all sales of alcohol and send agents to monitor your liquor cabinet, how much coffee did you drink today, above the legal limit?

 

Pharmacies are bullshit anyway. I'd rather have pure powder and ug scale longside education the governments should be handing out for fuck sake.

I'm smart enough to weigh out my own shit and you can keep your binders and fillers and markups you draconian greedcunts.

 

o come on thou pharmacies are still incredibly useful - but the gov mandating that, b4 patient/pharmacist can do specific things, they need DEA permission slips, well, that's retarded.
/for chrissake I had to spend most of my day a few months ago just to grab antibiotics for an eye infection. If it weren't for the ridiculous rx rules I could have just grabbed what i needed at CVS.

 

/for chrissake I had to spend most of my day a few months ago just to grab antibiotics for an eye infection. If it weren't for the ridiculous rx rules I could have just grabbed what i needed at CVS.

I don't know if we want to live in a world where antibiotics are ad-lib and OTC. These organisms are masters of adaptation, and wider distribution of antibiotics may cause an apocalypse.

 

antibiotic-resistant bacteria. bah. don't know enough there to respond to you..

 

Addiction To Prescription Drugs Reaching Epidemic Proportions

The ever-growing problem of drug abuse and addiction in America is not by any means restricted to shadowy street narcotics.


Patients who obtain prescriptions to legal drugs from their healthcare professional for pain management and/or other reasons are getting hooked more and more on those pills even to the extent of what’s being diplomatically called non-medical reasons.

The US Office of National Drug Control Policy admits that prescription drug abuse is the country’s “fastest-growing drug problem” and that the CDC indeed has declared it an epidemic.

Medical News Today suggests that doctors may have had the best of intentions at least in terms of treating acute pain.

The body’s vital signs can be rendered normal with a prescription to address pain. Dr. Aly Hassan of the University of Nebraska medical school identified pain as the fifth vital sign that goes along with pulse rate, body temperature, blood pressure, and respiratory rate.

Hydrocodone, an opiod, is apparently the most common drug prescribed to treat moderate to severe pain.

According to the National Institutes of Health, patients can become addicted to narcotic painkillers, sedatives and tranquilizers, and stimulants.

Doctors seem in general more quick to write prescriptions for these meds than ever before, and online pharmacies make access to these drugs even easier.

So how does the problem manifest itself? The Mayo Clinic warns that “prescription drug abuse or problematic use includes everything from taking a friend’s prescription painkiller for your backache to snorting or injecting ground-up pills to get high.”

The National Institute on Drug Abuse similarly adds that “prescription drug abuse means taking a prescription drug that is not prescribed for you, or taking it for reasons or in dosages other than as prescribed.

The Inquisitr writer Scott English has suffered chronic lower back pain due to a bad disk and therefore has real-world experience with potentially addictive prescription meds:

“Although there are several nonaddictive alternatives out there such as physio therapy and medical marijuana (where legal), the doctors insist that the best method for me is Oxycontin which does a lousy job at killing the pain and is highly addictive.

When I broached the subject of medical marijuana with my doctor, he was hesitant to give me the prescription because ‘marijuana has a high likely hood of being abused.’

Before they would even consider a MM prescription, they made me try morphine and Fentanyl (a synthetic opiate 200 times as strong as Heroin).

When Scott broached the subject of possible addiction to Oxy, he was prescribed yet another drug: “Clonopin, which helps with withdrawal symptoms in case I need it.”

Do you think conventional medical doctors are too quick to load patients up on drugs rather than address the underlying causes of pain or illness with non-pharmaceutical approaches? Is America an over-medicated society?

http://www.inquisitr.com/411504/addiction-to-prescription-drugs-reaching-epidemic-proportions/

 

o come on thou pharmacies are still incredibly useful.

Please qualify this.

And qualify the need for the "DEA" in your extrapolation.

 

Pharmacies are useful in the same way any specialized store is useful- it's the permission slips and legality that piss me off. I don't wanna see CVS and other pharmacies gone, i just want to ultimately hold the final say on what's okay for me. If the guy at the counter tells me i probably don't have true add and don't need that desoxyn, or that tylenol is more 'normal' for a sprained finger, that's great but it should be limited to advice and not the ability to refuse the sale because it's illegal.
/just woke, sorry if that's choppy but think it makes sense
//i cannot recall saying there was any need for the DEA...apologies if you read that into a post of mine. *IF* the DEA were needed, it is most certainly not in its current form or anything remotely resemblant of it.
///resemblant doesn't appear to be a word

 

I don't wanna see CVS and other pharmacies gone|

I do. With proper resources and social educating systems implimented they'd be moot, wasteful and inneficient. Come to think of it, they already are. 3rd time CVS fucked up my dexederine IR script not only charging me 180 dollars for a GENERIC (barr - the lowest quality just so happens...) making me wait a week to recieve something they had to order that turned out to be the wrong med. Don't you verify the scripts with the doctor vocally each time? Seems to me if you're going to make me go in to THE FUCKING OFFICE monthly because my experienced neurologist isn't given the privelage of writing refills on so-called "dangerous" drugs (IE: scheduled) you'd be consistent and strict enough to do this. Not to mention you filled my DATED scripts over a week early as I was just dropping them off so you'd have them and I didn't lose them, planning on picking them up on the ascribed date. I also said "picking this up saturday" to the pharmacist directly every time. I made out, but obviously I won for the wrong reasons.

If the guy at the counter tells me i probably don't have true add and don't need that desoxyn, or that tylenol is more 'normal' for a sprained finger, that's great but it should be limited to advice

I don't think there should be a guy, firstly. You can get your own advice and it will be far more accurate as know one knows you better than you, assuming you're educated. Seeing that you're a bluelighter, I assume you are therefore no need for the pharmacist.

i cannot recall saying there was any need for the DEA...apologies if you read that into a post of mine. *IF* the DEA were needed, it is most certainly not in its current form or anything remotely resemblant of it.
///resemblant doesn't appear to be a word

It's ok. It was just implied in your argument, probably unintentionally but nonetheless, there.

Think outside the box man! People don't need laws protecting them from themselves, just as water doesn't need a police state to make sure it freezes at the proper degree celsius. All is permitted, nothing is true.

Medicine shouldn't be an industry. Treatments aren't cures, and cures are never profitable. It's a system designed to fail, like the war on drugs, democracy, or the federal reserve notes.

 

if you "don't think there should be a guy" then where are you expecting to be able to purchase this stuff?

I'm advocating for full repeal to prohibition, with CVS's selling drugs the same as a paki sells booze. You seem to be saying that we don't need laws, yet don't need the places that sell the shit- are you saying that we should have to, like, synth everything at home or something? Unsure how producers can reach consumers in a practical manner w/o a retail outlets..

let CVS function as it always has, only no more permission slips (rx's). I definitely understand and endorse age requirements on certain products, but just remove FDA/DEA influence and let the product i leave with be a function of what i *wanted* and what they had in stock. Insofar as the chemists/pharmacists who're there- they're still greatly useful for their knowledge- they don't have to go away when the drug laws do ;p

 

Directly from the freelance chemist I trust the most, using vendor reviews and gcms testing to verify the quality.

I don't believe in capitalism, or money for that matter. Call me unconventional.

I still get all my unscheduled drugs sent conveniently to my door with GC/MS Safety Data sheets of consistant quality and at unbeatable prices.


Until they are scheduled, of course. Then and only then will quality and consistency decline, prices rise, and freedoms traditionally granted as 'illimitable' are reduced for both parties on each side while the indoctrinating facotor in the equation IE: the monarchical regime continue to enjoy unlimited resources and luxuries they hang their citizens for, usually for a profit on national television.

Facism isn't fun and never goes away. Kind of like herpes except more vociferous.