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RCs Urgent -Danger - Please read!

Ninae

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Need to give a warning and ask for advice.

Just got into serious trouble with drugs for the first time in my life. Not as in overdose, seem more like being poisoned. It seeemed like my entire nervous system shut down and I starting breathing EXTREMELY heavy, almost lost the ability to speak, and had no control of my movements. My limbs were shooting out all over the place and I thought I had fucked myself up permanently and was going to die. I can't say how bad it was and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Now here are what substances could possibly have caused it, I can't say for sure which, so please give your opinion.

- The new etizolam pills. The darker tourquise ones with a salt and bitter taste, obviously a different chemical. I didn't have too many of these though.

In the morning I took a large dose of RC stimulants, namely MPA and Etylphenidate, mixed with MXE. I'm leaning more towards this as I had much more of it and I had some of the Etizolam before, but it didn't sart until I had all of those.

So what do you think is more concurrent with the symptomps? Does it seem like something that could happen during a stimulant overdose? I had rapid heartbeat and high blood pressure too and I think I read about someone fucking themselves up on Benzo Fury.

Happy for any input. Plese be careful everyone.
 
Maybe you were experiencing some anxiety or a panic attack?
You'd be surprised at what anxiety and panic attacks could do.
I don't know how many times i've almost gone to the hospital.
 
From my personal experiences (not with MXE-never tried it, but rather IV cocaine use), this sounds like a stimulant overdose. MXE potentiates stimulants, so mixing it with other stims is dangerous territory.

My reason for belieiving this also comes from a very scary experience I had about a year and a half ago when I was shooting a lot of cocaine. After competing my last shot, I began to feel an intense and frightening shortness of breath. I felt pain as well as numbness in my extremities, and an extremely fast heart beat. I became practically paralyzed and when I felt as though I could move, I was afraid that doing so would cause a heart attack. I also could not talk, or I would have yelled out for help.

Be carefull man, always research drug interactions.
 
i mean...if i had to take a guess...i'd say it was the MXE, being closely related to ketamine which can cause aphasia (forgetting how to talk) and general psychomotor retardation.
 
Thanks. Yea, I'm leaning towards stimulant overdose too, as it's supposed to include tremors, heavy breathing, and rapid heartbeat. And I Have no tolerance to stiumulants and it was a large dose.

And no, it was nothing like a panic attack, hahah, I wish. I almost couldn't speak and had NO control of my movements. I thought I had permanently ruined myself and would have to be put down.
 
No, not the MXE, only took little of that and have never had a problem with it like that before. Seems more like a result of mixing a high dose of an Amphetamine and Cocaine like drug.
 
Well, MXE has dopaminergic properties so it potentiates other stimulants. So while it may have been a small dose in and of itself, mixing it with stimulants could lead to such symptoms.
 
The thing is thats a bit of mad cocktail so its hard to say. ive only ever had the sweet tasting etizolam (i can just chew them up thats how pleasant they are). IME MPA and Ethyl were very similar in their properties. I would guess that the MXE or benzo were to blame here, but having said that it could have just been some sort of panic attack.
 
Sure it's all speculation, but I'm guessing it's related to stimulants:

hypertension, vomiting, cramps, and excessive sweating. High doses of stimulants may cause high fever, cardiac arrhythmias and arrest, irregular breathing, seizures, and stroke. Agitated states characterized by increased aggressiveness or psychotic features may also occur with intoxication, particularly for MA (Weis, 1997). The development of hyperpyrexia (excessively high fever), severe hypertension, convulsions, and cardiovascular collapse signal a life-threatening situation (source)
 
The thimg is it was nothing like a panic attach. Emotionl, if it were psycholoical it wholly I was stable. It If it was physiological iw would be nothin. It wss like my whole body ws shutting donw, and I couldn't ve gone on living likt thsst.
 
that sounds terrifying. i've had similar experiences on DXM. i thought i'd be fucked up for the rest of my life. try coping with that while still being high as ballz.
 
only once have i been seriously scared and that is when i had what seemed like an episode of sleep paralysis that lasted ages. never had it since but i havent bought from that seller since
 
Need to give a warning and ask for advice.

Just got into serious trouble with drugs for the first time in my life. Not as in overdose, seem more like being poisoned. It seeemed like my entire nervous system shut down and I starting breathing EXTREMELY heavy, almost lost the ability to speak, and had no control of my movements. My limbs were shooting out all over the place and I thought I had fucked myself up permanently and was going to die. I can't say how bad it was and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Now here are what substances could possibly have caused it, I can't say for sure which, so please give your opinion.

- The new etizolam pills. The darker tourquise ones with a salt and bitter taste, obviously a different chemical. I didn't have too many of these though.

In the morning I took a large dose of RC stimulants, namely MPA and Etylphenidate, mixed with MXE. I'm leaning more towards this as I had much more of it and I had some of the Etizolam before, but it didn't sart until I had all of those.

So what do you think is more concurrent with the symptomps? Does it seem like something that could happen during a stimulant overdose? I had rapid heartbeat and high blood pressure too and I think I read about someone fucking themselves up on Benzo Fury.

Happy for any input. Plese be careful everyone.
I hope everyone who uses rcs knows what MXE does. Its not like Ketamine in terms of helping a comedown. Thats what did it....that and you took two Potent rc stimulants....mixed with mxe....you should expect to feel that way. Thats just careless man. I have read some weird awful combos but that one sounds like carelessness or you must be familiar with said substances either way Bad mix...
 
You know, if I ask you to solve an equation system with 2 unknowns, it's easy, you make a 2 by 2 matrix and solve it. With 3 unknowns however it becomes more complicated and with 4 unknowns, it gets really hard. Your body is already busy keeping you alive...don't give it equations with 4 unknowns to solve.

You can't mix ketamine with stimulants and other stuff. BTW, ethylRitalin is shit.
 
You know, if I ask you to solve an equation system with 2 unknowns, it's easy, you make a 2 by 2 matrix and solve it. With 3 unknowns however it becomes more complicated and with 4 unknowns, it gets really hard. Your body is already busy keeping you alive...don't give it equations with 4 unknowns to solve.

You can't mix ketamine with stimulants and other stuff. BTW, ethylRitalin is shit.
I heard quite the opposite from an ex k'd out poster haha. Is it really bad to do K and Amps?
 
Just can't believe how bad it was. The noises coming out of my mouth could barely be decipered as words and my body movements where all over the prace and I had NO control of them. I thought it was going to be permanent and I had fucked up my body for good and wouldn't be able to go on living in that state. Thankfully it was temporary and the effects started to subside as the chemicals were flushed out of my body.

Plese be careful of these RC stimulants everyone. A higher dose might have killed me.
 
You know, if I ask you to solve an equation system with 2 unknowns, it's easy, you make a 2 by 2 matrix and solve it. With 3 unknowns however it becomes more complicated and with 4 unknowns, it gets really hard. Your body is already busy keeping you alive...don't give it equations with 4 unknowns to solve.

You can't mix ketamine with stimulants and other stuff. BTW, ethylRitalin is shit.

I really like the way you stated that in the first paragraph, but whats wrong with mixing ketamine, or any dissociative really, with stimulants? I did a good bit of some incredibly good K recently (purest I have ever and may ever have) and periodically smoked crystal between the peak of the highs and I found it to be VERY pleasurable. I felt that strangely enjoyable psychedelic confusion of dissociation from the K and the crystal left with me with a heightened sensation of awareness considering the size of the doses of this top shelf substance! A group of friends and I spent about 6-8 hours doing this without any problems at all. Everyone seemed and confirmed that they were and had had an incredible time. No one had any noticeable physical/mental/emotional stress or anxiety which, considering the quality and doses of both drugs, was a little surprising! There is almost always one person in the group that feels some level of discomfort even if its completely psychological or something as minor as being gassy!

However...

I've never been warned against the mixture of the two drugs nor have I ever really come across (or searched for) information stating that the combination is a bad one. Are there dangers involved with mixing them? Or, is that mixture just not your cup of tea?
 
The convolsutions were the worst, apart from not being able to use my voice. The doctors, nurses, and ambulance people were completely unhelpful and didn't seem to have a clue. They treated it like I had just taken an overdose of some sleeping pills, yea right, as that would leave to symptoms like that. I would just be passed out in a temporary coma in that case. Not to mention from two-three pills.

Seriously wonder about the competence of those involved in the health service if they can't even identify symptoms like that or take them seriously. If It would have gone worse or been permanent I would have been fucked. My whole body had stopped functioning.
 
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