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Help! Upcoming trip - what to take?

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ageingpartyfiend

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Just looking for you beautiful people's thoughts on this. Sometime in the next month I'm going to be taking a reasonably high dose psychedelic trip but I'm dithering about what substance to go for. Apologies in advance if a long-ish post, it's gonna help me to subconsciously process this by writing it out I think anyway, so carry on if you fancy, if not then no worries!

Background info. Historically quite experienced with psyches. In a 15 year or so period from the mid 80's onwards I probably had around 40 mushroom trips (Liberty Caps, usually brewed fresh, usual doses between 4 and 14g, but have dosed up to around 33g, only once LOL). Consider shrooms to be an ally, some challenging experiences granted, but masive euphoric healing usually. Also probably had around 20 lsd trips in that time - we had no idea of doses back then but in the light of my more recent experience with very accurately laid blotters/liquid I'd say the doses were from around 70ug up to around 200ug

Stopped taking psyches after a fucking terrible acid trip in 1999, which I'm now 99.9% convinced was not actually lsd at all.

For the next 17 years or so, my tripping activity was limited to perhaps 4 mushroom trips, all 3 or years apart and between 5 and 7 grams per trip. Also maybe 4 dmt trips, 3 of which were spectacular breakthoughs. Oh, and a strong Salvia trip which I don't care to remember, not for me at all ugh.

Around 2017 I came into the orbit of some (proven) accurately dosed and very clean lsd. First trip was 250ug, holy foookin shit, okkkkkkk :) Healing, beautiful, epic. Echoed within me for a good 6 months afterwards. Main thought (when I returned to being an "I" again lol), was "why the fuck have I waited so long to do that again!" Have repeated that 3 times since with the same / equally pure and accurately dosed at 200ug (twice) and an estimated 225ug (somewhere between 220 and 230 anyway). Every time fantastic.

So, last trip was 15 months ago. I kinda promised myself I'd go for regular trips perhaps 9 months apart, so it's been a fair bit longer than that (as didnt feel in right headspace for a while - I do now though).

I'll either be dosing alone or with my longterm psychedelic partner who is also a very experienced journeyer and who i trust implicitly - we are very comfy high dose tripping together. Setting will be well prepared, all that I/we may need.

Problem is, I'm spoiled for choice and cannot decide what substance to take!

I have old friends in the psychedelic community. I have the ability to easily source 3 x 200ug blotters of very high quality lsd, and also 100% pure mescaline hcl (only 1g available), and I also have 7g Penis Envy mushroom powder from shrooms grown by a family member.

I really fancy a 200-250ug type dose lsd, mainly perhaps as the last ones were so incredible.

However, the mushrooms are calling too! My old, dear friends. I could use some of that intense, challenging and beautiful medicine, oh yes I could. One thing though - am mildly anxious about them due to the shrooms being Penis Envy, as this is an unknown to me having only had Liberty Caps previously. I'm aware that PE are supposed to be 50% more potent that other shrooms, so am thinking that a 3.5-4g dose of those would be the one, should I go down that road.

Then there's the mesacline. Well guess what - I have always wanted to try it and have never had the opportunity to do so until that possibility arose just a week or two ago. Now that sounds quite serendipitous doesn't it? Is it a coincidence that I found (actually it found me) just a couple of weeks after I had decided to take a trip in the near future? hmmmmm. Again, I know the source (well, secondhand, but the friend who actually does know the source irl assures me it's tested, genuine, and the chemist is all about the healing. The friend in question also knows their shit verrry well - they also know me well and have recommended a 400-500mg dose for me.

My (possible) tripping partner would happily go with the same substance/dose as me should I trip with her, so that's not a consideration.

Now, I probably won't take another trip for 6 months minimum, probably more like 9.

Would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts / advice / experiences related to anything in this post - have a great weekend (and every day) people
 
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GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
You might as well give Mescaline a shot if you've never done it before
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Very true, thanks. I'm gonna get the mescaline anyway (obviously haha), but dunno whether to go for it this time or not

Would definitely be a leap of faith though - you have any experience with mescaline hcl?
 
I've taken Methallylescaline before which is meant to be similar, but I mixed it with Etizolam and blacked out so I don't remember too much of it, I'm not sure how much I took. The last thing I remember is being stuck in a dream like loop where I was in some sort of car crash advert, and kept being thrown through the front window of a car. Then having to call in sick to work lmao.

That probably isn't the best example though, a stupidly high dose mixed with benzos. From what I've heard other people say, it's pretty chill if done in sensible amounts.
 
^^ friend reckons that 500mg of this mescaline hcl should provide somewhere around the potency of 150-200ug lsd - such a difficult calculation to make really but gives me at least a flavour of potential potency I suppose

definitely won't be mixing any psyche I take with anything except some cannabis if I fancy, but that would be some time after the peak - am a bit of a purist with the psyches and want the unadulterated experience, especially as I do them so rarely now
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Just looking for you beautiful people's thoughts on this. Sometime in the next month I'm going to be taking a reasonably high dose psychedelic trip but I'm dithering about what substance to go for. Apologies in advance if a long-ish post, it's gonna help me to subconsciously process this by writing it out I think anyway, so carry on if you fancy, if not then no worries!

Background info. Historically quite experienced with psyches. In a 15 year or so period from the mid 80's onwards I probably had around 40 mushroom trips (Liberty Caps, usually brewed fresh, usual doses between 4 and 14g, but have dosed up to around 33g, only once LOL). Consider shrooms to be an ally, some challenging experiences granted, but masive euphoric healing usually. Also probably had around 20 lsd trips in that time - we had no idea of doses back then but in the light of my more recent experience with very accurately laid blotters/liquid I'd say the doses were from around 70ug up to around 200ug

Stopped taking psyches after a fucking terrible acid trip in 1999, which I'm now 99.9% convinced was not actually lsd at all.

For the next 17 years or so, my tripping activity was limited to perhaps 4 mushroom trips, all 3 or years apart and between 5 and 7 grams per trip. Also maybe 4 dmt trips, 3 of which were spectacular breakthoughs. Oh, and a strong Salvia trip which I don't care to remember, not for me at all ugh.

Around 2017 I came into the orbit of some (proven) accurately dosed and very clean lsd. First trip was 250ug, holy foookin shit, okkkkkkk :) Healing, beautiful, epic. Echoed within me for a good 6 months afterwards. Main thought (when I returned to being an "I" again lol), was "why the fuck have I waited so long to do that again!" Have repeated that 3 times since with the same / equally pure and accurately dosed at 200ug (twice) and an estimated 225ug (somewhere between 220 and 230 anyway). Every time fantastic.

So, last trip was 15 months ago. I kinda promised myself I'd go for regular trips perhaps 9 months apart, so it's been a fair bit longer than that (as didnt feel in right headspace for a while - I do now though).

I'll either be dosing alone or with my longterm psychedelic partner who is also a very experienced journeyer and who i trust implicitly - we are very comfy high dose tripping together. Setting will be well prepared, all that I/we may need.

Problem is, I'm spoiled for choice and cannot decide what substance to take!

I have old friends in the psychedelic community. I have the ability to easily source 3 x 200ug blotters of very high quality lsd, and also 100% pure mescaline hcl (only 1g available), and I also have 7g Penis Envy mushroom powder from shrooms grown by a family member.

I really fancy a 200-250ug type dose lsd, mainly perhaps as the last ones were so incredible.

However, the mushrooms are calling too! My old, dear friends. I could use some of that intense, challenging and beautiful medicine, oh yes I could. One thing though - am mildly anxious about them due to the shrooms being Penis Envy, as this is an unknown to me having only had Liberty Caps previously. I'm aware that PE are supposed to be 50% more potent that other shrooms, so am thinking that a 3.5-4g dose of those would be the one, should I go down that road.

Then there's the mesacline. Well guess what - I have always wanted to try it and have never had the opportunity to do so until that possibility arose just a week or two ago. Now that sounds quite serendipitous doesn't it? Is it a coincidence that I found (actually it found me) just a couple of weeks after I had decided to take a trip in the near future? hmmmmm. Again, I know the source (well, secondhand, but the friend who actually does know the source irl assures me it's tested, genuine, and the chemist is all about the healing. The friend in question also knows their shit verrry well - they also know me well and have recommended a 400-500mg dose for me.

My (possible) tripping partner would happily go with the same substance/dose as me should I trip with her, so that's not a consideration.

Now, I probably won't take another trip for 6 months minimum, probably more like 9.

Would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts / advice / experiences related to anything in this post - have a great weekend (and every day) people
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I would definitely go with the mescaline, especially if you've never done it before.

I've never taken mescaline but I've done a fair amount of different phenethylamines, 2cs, nbomes, DOx. Phens are probably my favorite class at this point. They're beautiful and easy going, and just fun. Everything I want in a trip. I do like my heady shroom trips and stuff too every now and then, but for me, phens are just so perfect in every aspect. Beautiful visuals too.

Mescaline is definitely top of my list regarding substances I plan to do. So I would definitely go that route if I were you!!
 
first time in my life full blown trip of San Pedro this summer in ethno concert.....foock man....that is my stuff.half kilo fresh piece boiled many hours to reduce the volume of liquid-the end was half litre extremely bitter light yellow liquid....it toke two hours to kick....absolutely no visuals....reminds me of MDMA,but veery long lasting-more than 12 hours..Incredible empathic feeling to other people,dreaming-awake state....very stimulated and grinding teeth,but in the same time only wanna to lie on the ground...Nodding(got a pods too) a lot...Incredibly content from the experience.After effects wore off-pleasant tiredness....no comunicative during the journey.....just sleeping awake...to go in the nature in some beatiful place-to make a fire during night and to warm all night around the fire turning from side to side like a pancake-incredible massage for soul and the body👍🌵💯💥💫🎄🌲🌳🌿🗻🏕️
 
I think the choice depends on what kind of trip you're looking for. Mescaline is a lucid, energetic trip that I think emphasizes the body, senses, and emotions more than LSD does. I think of LSD as a more mentally focused trip. I recommend doing mescaline during the daytime in a natural environment. With a solid dose, the visual enhancement with eyes open is particularly breathtaking. Be patient. It takes 4 hours for the experience to fully develop and then it has a long plateau. The trip lasts at least 12 hours---longer with heavier doses. My experience involves several cacti trips rather than pure mescaline, but I've been able to work with material that is likely comparable to the pure stuff. It is probably my favorite of the three you're deciding between. Though, I love LSD too.

Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes!
 
Jesus christ, 33g of Libs? Was that fresh weight or dry weight? How many mushrooms does that equate to?

I've never gone over 180 dried and that was more than enough for me.


What are you planning to do during the trip? For me, mushrooms were for stomping through the fields in the middle of the night while acid was for sunny days. I'd also be tempted by the mescaline as I've also never tried it.

Whatever you decide to do though, enjoy your journey, and good vibes are coming your way from me.


Have fun Mr.Fiend!! <3
 
The first experiences wit Psilocybine where with Liberty Caps/ 'Gras Kaal Kopjes [last meaining Bold Heads].
Handpicked fro nature, btw hey dont grow in shit, they are the indegenous kind that grows overhere.

While legal buying was more like gettin illegal drugs, under the counter, selling.
Or if you knew someone, who knew a picker. The only shrooms i took my body accepted, all the cultivated ones where disasters.
Not bad trips but dull, irritating and only sitting them out till they went there course.
Coming back, thats when I started feeling good, and the week after too. Delayed response ?
The after effect where very pleasant/ positive/ healing, just not the immediate effects.

My favorite class is Lysergics, each one ok. Though with ALD-52 lonely on the top still.
My body hates Tryps & Phens, except 2C-T2, which kinda resembled what i read on Mescaline reports.
So Mescaline is nr. 1 on the to do list, its seems as its from all Phens the most special gracious one.
Unlike 2C-B, C, D, 2C-T7. Only liked 10 mg 2C-E with a 50 mg dose of 4-FMA [commercial freebie combo/ 1/2 of the intended dose]
But that was not mindblowing, but suprising to me recreative. Bit emphaty and slightly trippy, due to the dose.

Was i spoiled with choice easy, my grocery list: ALD-52, 2C-T2 and preferably a few grams of pure Mescaline.
But i ll settle for a good extracted Trichocereus/ San Pedro, never done one myself.
Would be good enough as pure Mesc, you ll need good contacts.

When I in the oppurtunity again just by the living cactus as they grow so well, did it 20 years ago orso. .
Within no time you have kilos, and can start your own extraction experiments. My future plans :) .
Weed is illegal here to grow. 🚫

Paddos, Opium Papaver, Mimosa Hostilis [basickly Ayahuasca made from one tree, no added MAOi needed].
Its apperently is in there and Trichocereus Pachinoii and other like wise Cactusses.
All legal what has Cannabis done to deserve this prohibition age we are about to leave?

🍄 in wild available too but are endangerd, so picking a offence. But they are legal to grow harvest dry decarb even extract them.
And to sell, wonder how it is not as psychedelic but for having felt it. as it keeps wondering in my mind.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Jesus christ, 33g of Libs? Was that fresh weight or dry weight? How many mushrooms does that equate to?

I've never gone over 180 dried and that was more than enough for me.


What are you planning to do during the trip? For me, mushrooms were for stomping through the fields in the middle of the night while acid was for sunny days. I'd also be tempted by the mescaline as I've also never tried it.

Whatever you decide to do though, enjoy your journey, and good vibes are coming your way from me.


Have fun Mr.Fiend!! <3
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1000 freshly picked mushrooms mate (was just giving the approx dried equivalent, would have been around 33g if dried. - it was kind of an accident and was never repeated. Have done the equivalent of around 13-15g dried plenty of time though (400-450 fresh shrooms), but around 180-250 (6-8g ish dried) was a favoured dose. Setting was mainly a mix of indoor/outdoor on each trip, some fully outside, others fully inside.

Trip report 'highlights' on the hiuge dose include getting trapped in a phone box outside as it was a tardis which began hurtling through space while being attacked by very funky looking monsters - saw dogs drivng cars the size of massive trucks, also having to hide multiple times from dangerous fully-armoured knights on horseback riding around, getting stuck in a bathroom for an hour (10 years minimum) because the door was flying around the room while tiny nuclear bombs kept flying through a tiny hole in the windowsill with each one landing in the toilet producing a multicoloured mushroom cloud. Etc. Really mad thing is that the famous shroom introspection was almost totally absent on the 33g, whereas was absoltely to the fore on 5-15g.

This trip will be spent primarily indoors though, in a comfortable and undisturbed space with great sounds. Will have access to a tranquil outdoor space too though within a couple of minutes walk should the need arise.

After writing all that last night and reading a couple of replies I was fully convinced and leaning heavily towards the mescaline , but now in the cold light of day I'm unsure again, which is fine. It will no doubt become apparent in the end and I'll trust my intuition then. Great to read what people are saying though for sure

Last few lsd trips have been incredible, really really helped me in multiple and easily obsersvable ways too. I'm also very comfortable with the deep mushroom introspection (yet slighly wary too, which I imagine to be normal/healthy given it's been a decade since the last big shroom trip) and feel like that could be very helpful for me at the moment also. And the mesacline, well it's a substance I've always wanted to try. What I'll have access to though is the synthesised mescaline hcl, not the plant matter

It's quite likely I'll do all 3 substances over the next 12 months or so anyway...maybe.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
1000 shrooms? That's fuckin insane man! How the hell did you consume that many? The gutrot must have been through the roof.
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we had 2000 shrooms between 2 of us...brewed 500 up so 250 is each, wandered over to a friend's place who was having a mushroom gathering immediately before fully 'up' intending to share the the reamainin shrooms - they all had their own or had already consumed...so we sat there nibbling shrooms outta the bag only to realise to out horror some time later that the bag was empty - oops

So, don't exactly know how many I had tbh, 250 in the brew then an uncounted share between 2 of us of the remaining 1500, so am going with 1000! Could have been a bit less or a bit more. Must have been totally off it when began eating them though as I struggle to eat even one single mushroom sober, let alone 100's aaha. Totally reckless really and fuck knows how I got home alive. In my defence, I was only 19 at the time

EDIT the guy I picked them with and shared them with went on to be somewhat of a counterculture legend, but one doesn't 'trip and tell' eh :) At one point, shortly before I left the party-house, said friend passed out spectacularly in the kitchen, smashins his head off a worktop on his way down. Myself and the other kitchen people stood frozen and aghast, in total silence, for quite a while....just looking at him aaaaagggh shit wtf. Then he just shot to his feet and burst out laughing sayin "WOW - what's happening - That was fukkin amazing! "

Would not surprise me in the slightest if he reads this - if you do please get in touch old friend
 
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stan marsh reminder GIF by South Park
 
Even 250 in a brew is intense. The first time I had 120 brewed up, the come up was so quick I thought my head was going to explode. I was having out of body experiences while spinning on a roundabout in a kids playground. Then the fuckin cops turned up. Took one look at us, then fucked off :LOL:

But you are now officially my 'zero the hero' Mr.Fiend. Did you "hang on to your head"? 😀
 
Wow. Came here to recommend mescaline too. Looks like just about everyone else had that same idea
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
1000 freshly picked mushrooms
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Knew it, thats the culprit. You let say 'proved' to me handpicked nature Liberty Caps are nothing like the smart shop grown ones. Which always give a dull irritating sluggish trip, but maybe a equally good after glow.

But on the nature grown I get a good and energetic trip. Dried always btw does that matter?
The smartshops ones where fresh back then, big ones. Now its fresh Truffles.

You have the real stuff, so in that case i would def consider them too.
 
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