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Unknown Capsule (suspected MDxx) - Experienced - Trip to hell

NeoBlink

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(sold as) MDMA - Experienced - X trip to hell

Ive had trips before, lots of them, some good some bad, but none like this........
It was the end of a long weekend, and to unwind my best friend Crix and I decided we would roll. After some queries we found 10hits of "Black Liquerice", these were capsules. Ive done capsules before, infact my first E experience was on capsules on my 21st. Ive heard bad stuff and good about them, but I was still alittle causious.
The night started off great, Crix and each ate 1, we always started with one just so we knew how strong they were, but it wasn't uncommon for myself to pound through 3-4 in a night. I usually will piggyback them after I peaked off the one before, and I never had any problems until this night. But anyways, I was going to do the same, why break with tradition when tradiotion never failed before?
So we both chilled out and waited for our roll to kick in. It started weak, not the normal calming euphoric kickin like I was used to. No big e' I just thought it was weak stuff. So Crix and I gave it another hour before we decided to do, that way we would be comfortable with knowing our roll. Well we decided to bump the next hit, Ive never snorted E, but let me tell this shit burned like hell, all the way to the back of my eyes. But I sucked it up and continued on, this put us both at 2.
With in about 20 minutes or so we noticed a much increased roll, fine by us we were happy to be rolling. Well the roll wasn't as normal as far as euphoria was concerned, but we weren't alarmed, we just assumed it was low grade shit.
By this time we were disapointed with the quality and had decided that we were good with two in our systems for now. After about an hour and half, closer to two we just weren't feeling much of the E. Our highs weren't very high, and our lows weren't very low. We had hoped that snorting it would gives a better trip but it didn't seam to promising, so I decided I wanted more, Crix said he was fine, he was satisfied with what he got and decided he was good.
So I went to my room, lined up another one into two lines. Hit one line and decided I was going to wait on the second one, leave it for later. So I curled up in my bed below my nice soft down comforter and relaxed while the shit I put in kicked in. I did get a little higher, and rolled just the same as before and then I decided I was going to go take a shower, my favorite thing to do while rolling. I was in the shower for about another hour and decided I had enough, I did blow up a couple of times, but nothing as hard as I have before.
I came out into the living and said to Crix, man this shit is weak, and he said "yeah it is, but man it makes me feel uncomfortable." I asked what he meant and he said, "well if you touch your arm or you hair it feels good but if you don't do anything but sit there it feels uncomfortable." I didn't think anything of it and sat down to watch some T.V. with him, as soon as I sat down I got this really uncomfortable rush through my body. I was like what the hell was that?
Then I remember what Crix said. Well, I blew up once like that and thought I had already peaked because it was intense and alot of time had passed between doses, we were at about the 4-5 hour mark, and any E I have done ive always peaked way before then, and thats from ingesting on a full stomac, with out bitting into it.
But anyways, I all of a sudden blew up real high, first once, and platued, thena second, and platued, and then a third, this one was really fucking high, and it hurt like hell. This happend three times, and I remember on the second time Just before I platued(I know ive spelt that wrong)I got this burning, prickling rush that went up the inside of my arms, up my neck and up to about half way up the back of my neck. I lost my shit, extreme paranoia flew through my mind and body, all I could think of was shit ive ODed, im gonna die, im gonna die. I quickly stood up and ran to the bath room to make myself puke, to no avail.
I was pratically slamming my fist down my throut and nothing was comming up. After the rush had gone I pulled my head out of the tollet and decided that I was done in. Another rush hit, but it wasn't as strong as the first three, so I relaxed a little, but not much. I figured i might need some water in me so I stuck my head in the sink and gulped down alot of water. While looking in the mirror I saw that my left pupil was extremly dilated, but my right one was only half the size. I freaked again, I ran into the living and told my friend take me to the ER im ODeing. He said no your not, what are you talking about, and I told him I had takin more them him.
Well to make this overly long drawn out story short, I went to the ER, didn't go cause I finally got my self to puke, and eased my mind alittle, don't know why but it did. We stopped by the store on the way to the ER to get a gallon of water, which as soon as I got downed about 3/4 of it. And then puked up in the ER parking lot! Which by the way felt awsome, Ive never enjoyed puking so much in my life. But anyways, for the rest of the night every time I would blow up i freaked, all I could think of was this going to be the one that killed me?
Ive never had a panic attack before this, but after asking around I determinded thats what happened just as peaked. Since then, that was just over 5 months ago, ive had to quite all drugs because everytime I got high something would click in me and was reliving the whole experience. And I had a nice little habit going to.
This has left me pretty well shakin, and still questioning what I feel. It has takin alot of person control to get where I am today. For about the past five months Ive had panic attacks everytime my body does something wierd, like tingling in one leg, but not the other, tingling on the left side of my scalp, but not the other. I still don't know why, but eyes still dilate awkwardly.
But anyways, point is Don't do capsules, never.....and second always test them, always.
I don't know if eyes will ever be normal, my vision is a little screwy as well, things seem slightly out of focus, and when I look at something sometimes I feel like im not really looking at it.
thanks for hearing my story, if anyone has any clues as to what I took, or any words of advice as how to recover from this faster let me know, it would be appriciated, Thanks
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[ 25 August 2002: Message edited by: masheadatronic ]
 
OK, this is a good story but I have one problem with it "Don't do capsules, never" That's like you took a pill, had a bad experience and told someone to never eat pills anymore. It makes no sense. It doesn't matter how you get your E, powder, pills, capsules, whatever. There's going to be strong stuff, weak stuff, bunk stuff, and bad stuff. Sounds like what you had was bad stuff.
 
very very strange....
im not a docter, but from what U reported i would have to guess that your pills were 50/50 MDMA/PMA ...
this is just a guess, and i have never done PMA so fuckd if I know
 
sounds like a frightening experience... well done for handling it, have you got any idea what it was? i'm with aftermath - sounds like mdma/pma, but having kept clear of pma, i wouldn't know.
i hope you learned about testing your "mdma"
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wisest is he who knows that he does not know...
 
I haven't considered PMA, but I wish I knew for sure what was in it. Its been a mind job trying to figure out if I have done permanent damage, so far I think Im in the clear, except for the typical bad trip paranoia! PMA does dound logical, it was a very uncomfortable roll, worst ive ever had, and the peak took forever to reach, like I said before 4-5 hours. From what ive researched PMA takes longer to peak than MDMA, and it can be discomforting. I think however that the pills might have been more like 20PMA-80MDMA cause after all I took almost 3 and im still alive. Also one more thing, I do remember having intense hot and cold flashes after I peaked, and they were intense. But anyways, if any one else has more input, please post it because the more I know the better I feel!
 
beware the amounts of water your consuming. Drinking that much water in that short period of time could easily cause water intoxication... which can lead to death. I won't rant on about it, cuz I'm sure you've been told not to drink too much water. but, I thought i should say something as drinking that much water can kill you.
it happened here in colorado not too long ago
 
I think the threshold for PMA if taken alone would be about 90mgs for it to be (reasonably) border line safe...
If the Cap was MDMA and PMA, the threshold would become alot less before the PMA would become dangerouse..
No doubt if you took only 2 Caps with 20% PMA and 80% MDMA you would be dead, being if the caps where roughly 150mgs each...
Also, seens you didnt test the Caps, there is no way of knowing what you took...
Perhaps you should talk to a shrink about the way your feeling.. You may have a slight trauma from the stress you where under... It will go away.. Just remember if you stop the drugs, every day will be one day closer to becomeing normal...
Test Test Test... And be safe...
 
you can always do capsules. in fact, i'd be happy to always do them. just make sure to test test test test and test.
 
I know exactly how you feel bro, I had a very similar experience nearly a year ago.
Ate a half a pill nothing, ate the other half nothing for about 2 hours then on the way home I felt it slowly comming on,
by the time I got home I was fully rolling my ass off but I also felt very uncomfortable, could'nt sit still and just felt wrong. Everything was really reddish and the walls were caving in on me.
I also looked in the mirror and noticed that my left pupil was as dialated as it could possible get but my right was only half dilated - this really freaked me out and I thought I was going to die.
I took my pulse and counted for 15 seconds ,which took forever, then tried to multiply on my fridge what my bpm was but every time I calculated I got a different result
first I came up with 60 and thought "shit my heart is going to stop" so I ran up and down the house trying to get it up.
then I counted again and got 360 which really freaked me out so i lay down on my bed with my eyes closed saying to my self "relax.... relax" over and over and thinking wheather or not I should call an ambulance, I really thought I was going to die that day and had some very bad thoughts which I never want to have again (thinking about dying, about my family commming home finding me dead, really fucked up shit) I convinced myself that I would not die today and went and had a cold bath, that's where the whole thing ended.
This experience really woke me up and let me see the path that I was taking, from that day I really cut down on the x and 3 months later I quit.
It's been 10 months since that day, I've become a lot more health conscious and only smoke weed every now and again, I really can't see myself doing x again (I don't have any negative feelings towards it , and will keep the early memories close to my heart, but I now know for certain that we must never see each other again).
Looking back I really had this comming and really had no idea how big a grip x had taken on me or how normal my fucked up habit had started to become.
Sorry this has started to get long and soppy but I really feel for you bro I know exactly what you went through that day (my heart raced and I started to shake when I read your post), for weeks I worried thinking wheather I had given myself brain damage.
These feeling eventually passsed and they will for you to if you let them and let yourself heal from the experience, so take it easy and know that everything will work out for the best in the end.
For me I now feel as if I have neither moved up or down but instead sideways, I see life from a totally new angle and embrace the new perspective with open arms.
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Well I had my worst roll this last weekend. I'm thinking there was some PMA involved. All night I had to keep convincing myself that I was not dead..(I thought I had died from an overdose, and that I was a free spirit trapped on earth). I only took 2 pills...the second about 2 hrs after the first. Worse yet, my girl took two as well. She keep having muscle spasms and getting hot/cold flashes all night, and well into the next day.
 
Sorry you had a bad time of it, but your description was very vivid and thanks for posting.
 
If you can afford $80 a night in pills........can't you afford $20 for a tester?
Enjoying E is a state of mind. If you are paranoid before you drop........DON'T DROP!
4 a night is way too much and absolutely UNNECESSARY to get a good roll.
 
Dosn't sound like PMA to me, probably MDEA or something similar which can feel quite scary. The first time I took MDEA I was quite new to e and the differance in feeling made me quite scared that something was wrong, everyone monged out, not feeling to lovey, etc, weird body feelings.
Slightly Fucked: It's nieve to think that everyone who take a supposed dangerous dose of PMA will die. Some take one e and die, some take 1 pma pill and die. I know there was a fairly large batch of MDMA + PMA supermans in London not long ago, I had 3, now remember this is london where people kane up to 10 pills a night, luckily no one died on that batch but alot of people did take them. So PMA is more dangerous than MDMA but it won't always kill you. I didn't find it that unplesurable, I wasn't high in the phycidelic sense but my body was intoxicated and very mildly speedy.
 
4 a night is way too much and absolutely UNNECESSARY to get a good roll.
Swoosh, That all depends on the pill strength, a good pill should be 120mg but most arn't.
You have 1 120mg pills in your hand and your friend has 4 30mg pills in his hand. You are elitte because you take 1, he's an etard for taking four. lol. You can't say someone is taking to much, he said they where weak so in taking more he probably still wasn't taking anymore. if ya ge t me.
 
Just wanted to write to thank you for the post. I've had a similar experience and it makes me feel better to know I'm not alone. I've had a few sort of bad experiences and one really bad one. I can totally relate to that burning prickling feeling. The first time I took E I felt like the roots of my hair were on fire. Ever since my one really bad experience I've had a hard time doing E, even though I want to. Taking the pill terrifies me b/c I'm so worried it's going to be like that one bad time.
And for Kasper--I've had the reddish thing, too! The first several times I took E everything had a sort of orange glow to it. It's weird, b/c I've never heard of anyone else experiencing that.
--Candice
 
Damn, I totally understand what you're going through. I had a terrible experience that sounded pretty much like yours (panic attack, heart racing, burning feeling, thinking I was going to die, etc.)a little more than two months ago, and that experience triggered panic and anxiety in me. I hadn't had a panic attack in a while until yesterday when I decided to smoke a little weed and have a few drinks. All of a sudden I started having a bad panic attack and felt like I did that night. I guess I'm still not able to put any sort of chemicals into my body. And to think that I was actually thinking about rolling again! Anyways, know that you're not alone and it's pretty common.
 
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