undercover cops

[deal]

How can you pick undercover cops
how do you know they are a cop for sure?
I dont understand why cops dont lock every one?
I am not saying they should but what are they interested in really?
Are there any undercover cops in adelaide?
lets here some stories

 

[Taliana]

http://www2.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000232.html?reload=45
go there

 

[Paranorma]

How do we know ur not an under cover cop *looks around*

 

[Acid_Reign]

Some you can, some you can't.
But you shouldn't have to worry about undercovers.
Rule number 1, the number one rule : If you aren't friends with the person don't exchange drugs with them.
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If you want to get anywhere you'll have to run much faster.
--Lewis Carroll

 

[Pleonastic]

No, there's no undercover cops in Adelaide... it's the one state where it's safe to exchange drugs on the street to anyone without fear of being caught. Now Tasmania on the other hand - watch out if you go there... I heard that EVERYONE is an undercover cop!

 

[[MuNtEd_CuNt]]

in my experience there's really no way to pick undercover cops. i've been pulled up buy two ratty homeless guys and by a yobbo carrying a mouse in a jar,both times they were cops, so if your from Melbourne there's really no way to pick 'em, just be safe when you exchange drugs on the street.
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[huxley]

ummmm unless the dude is your brother (who you have lived with all your life) - you never know! want to be safe - make it yourself (anyone who busts a dope smoker who doesnt sell is a, well... i wont even say it - and i dont even smoke dope!!!!).
cheers.

 

[ful_sik_trippa]

Dont trust anyone unless they are your close friends!
I was almost pulled up by an undercover at home. He looked like the typical raver guy - never would have guessed.
Tip: Check to see if their pupils are dilated. If they are, u can probably be sure they are NOT a cop.
8)

 

[blufluffybunny]

I told this guy (cop)who asked if i "Had any exstacy to sell" to him that there was a secret sign if you wanted to buy pills. I was absolutely Spazmodic on pillz, and made up this call sign like they have in baseball. We were in stiches when this dumb monkey went around asking for pillz and did this secret code...... He clicked after he did it twice and was politely told to fuck off wierdo.
Oh, the joys of taking the piss.
**Adventure, excitement..a Jedi craves not these things**

 

[pHalaNGes]

Is it true that if you ask an undercover cop "Are you a cop?" They are legally obligated to tell the truth and say yes, and if they don't they can be charged?

 

[Plague Bearer]

it MAY be true, however I really WOULDN'T rely on it.
A cop will just say 'no' they're not a cop, and then deny it in court. They'd have to be really stupid not to have thought of that one.

 

[pundi]

I've just ripped this from another thread, but here is the law as it relates to entrapment:

As to entrapment, the High Court largely decided the issue in this case: JOHN ANTHONY RIDGEWAY v. THE QUEEN (1995) 129 ALR 41 (1995) 69 ALJR 484.
It basically states that there is no substantive defence of entrapment recognised in australia. You can't go to court and simply claim that you were entraped and hope to get off. If a police officer misrepresents himself by claiming he isn't a police officer, the most likely outcome is that both you and he are in breach of the law (but you're going to have a hard time getting the DPP to prosecute a police officer).
There is some possibility that entrapment situations can be used to stop the admission of some evidence. This is only where public policy reasons are compelling enough to a judge to warrant the removal of evidence. I doubt in the above situation the court would find any public policy reason compelling enough to help. If you've got the time and inclination, the above case is a good read in this area.

The important part of the above judgement is this:

10. The question whether the common law of this country recognizes a
substantive defence of "entrapment" to a charge of a criminal offence has not
been directly addressed in any case in this Court. It has, however, been
considered on a number of occasions by State Supreme Courts which have
consistently and emphatically answered it in the negative (2). Similarly, the
courts of England (3), Canada (4) and New Zealand (5) have denied the
existence of such a substantive common law defence. The decisions to that
effect are not surprising since it is a central thesis of our criminal law
that a person who voluntarily and with the necessary intent commits all the
objective elements of a criminal offence is guilty of that offence regardless
of whether he or she was induced to act by another, whether private citizen or
law enforcement officer. And that is so even if the inducement involved
criminal conduct on the part of a law enforcement officer. Where that is so,
the result is not that the induced person is not guilty of the crime. It is
that the law enforcement officer is also guilty of an offence.

This basically means that the courts will not recognise any defence of entrapment except where it has been explicitly stated by statute. I am yet to find any statutory provision that requires the police to not lie in such a situation.
So the short story is that the 'ask a someone if they are a cop' thing is an URBAN MYTH, there is no such requirement and it has no standing at law (until someone can point out some legislation that requires it). It might have some practical use in scaring away a cop, but otherwise an undercover cop will just answer 'no'.
Now returning to your scheduled programming: I have no idea as to how to spot undercover cops. One must remember there is a difference between normal police officers and the CIB officers. One group is largely below average intelligence while the other are trained pretty damn well. General advice: avoid talking about drugs.
Hope this helps

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[*@ngel*]

I'm with Paranorma here....
Just a thought.
{and dont yell at me!}
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*Immerse Your Soul In Love*

 

[shank]

There is only one way to be sure. Check them on a list of undercops with photo ids. Take this list with you when you go out and when you want to check someone out look em up on the list and if there photos there then get the hell away. If the photo is not there then sell them all you have 100% worry free.
If you wish to obtain a copy of one of these lists then all ya have to do is email me and for a small sum i will gladly ermail you a copy. DOnt hesistate to call. Email me today. What is a small price if it saves you from going away to jail for the rest of ya life.

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I see u laidher.

 

[ROT]

That line about cops having to 'fess up if they are asked is clearly a myth. Imagine the scene - undercover cop works his way into massive illegal drug buy by posing as a buyer. 14 columbians with machine guns meet him at the docks, and ask him "are you a cop?" Fearing becoming a criminal himself by giving the wrong answer, the cop says yes....

 

[BigTrancer]

FST said: "Tip: Check to see if their pupils are dilated. If they are, u can probably be sure they are NOT a cop."
This may not be as foolproof as you might think... it's a simple matter to obtain some of the myadriatic drops that optometrists use to dilate pupils for examination of the anatomic structures behind the iris. Chemical names for mydriatics include phenylephrine hydrochloride, hydroxyamphetamine hydrobromide, and tropicamide. Occasionaly cycloplegics are used, eg. atropine.
Drop in each eye and your pupils will blow out like you're totally dialled, and the effects will last for 2-6 hours.
BT

 

[MUZZA]

I was sitting next to an undercover cop on Sat night in the exchange on oxford st when it got raided. When they all busted in he just stood up and told everyone not to put their hands in their pockets and to stand still. I would never have guessed for him to be a cop.

 

[Snrub]

if your going to ask if theyre a cop make sure u grab an independant witness to hear his answer.
still wouldnt rely on it tho.

 

[huxley]

the exchange!! man, what is the world coming to...reminds me of the time I got busted at the bently not long after the 'under new management' went up. What next, beresford, taxi club...
Just us poor sods caught between the crims and the cops.
cheers,
hux.

 

[blufluffybunny]

Y'know.....
Angel and paranorma may be right....
Your answers sound robotic......
Cop like even.
**Wasn't me.....**