This piece deserves more attention, it illustrates exactly why a rethink of outmoded drugs law is long overdue & how the law as it stands is doing alot more harm than it is good...
Si Ingwe;11737183 said:Even if legalisation DID increase usage, that usage would be safer if the drugs concerned were being professionally manufactured.
SwampFox56;11736514 said:I think you're all missing the point.
Even if the war on drugs ends - things like MDMA, Methamphetamine, Heroin, Benzodiazepines, etc will NEVER hit the shelves. Why is this? Because the FDA would NEVER approve them, especially for everyone to use. Frankly, things like that SHOULDN'T be in every drug store. If people want to buy a drug, even one that was made my clandestine chemists, that's their choice. I agree that the government shouldn't interfere with that.
However, if these very addictive drugs became available to everyone - addiction and other issues would rise to heights we've never seen before.
Yes - the war on drugs should end, however, certain drugs shouldn't be readily available at every drug store- that would be exponentially dangerous.
However, if these very addictive drugs became available to everyone - addiction and other issues would rise to heights we've never seen before.
SwampFox56;11736514 said:Even if the war on drugs ends - things like MDMA, Methamphetamine, Heroin, Benzodiazepines, etc will NEVER hit the shelves.
I don't doubt that he made any of those claims, but I have a very hard time believing that someone who managed to become the president of the USA honestly believed those claims.ro4eva;11745256 said:IMO, it's just like the theories Nixon based his war on drugs on. I recall reading about how he actually expected that by forming a federal drug task force (aka the DEA), and by significantly increasing prison terms for possession and distribution, littering homes with propaganda via the media, and trying to control the flow and distribution of street drugs in America would magically compel Americans to abstain from using. Furthermore, he expected the war on drugs would end (in a win) in no more than 10 years at the most (that worked out well). No I don't have sources atm, but I'll do what I can to change that asap.
crOOk;11745849 said:I'm pretty impressed that MDMA can actually be utilized in psychotherapy settings for treatment of PTSD in the USA.
23536;11746184 said:Only in clinical trials, which doesn't really count.
rickolasnice;11746261 said:I saw a documentary (I think it may have been on the MDMA live thing in the UK with David Nutt?) where a woman in the US was going to an underground therapist who did MDMA therapy.. she was saying it really helped when nothing else did (there was a video of the session).. Does that count as a clinical trial?
Tenchi;11731033 said:Education and the provision of safety information would, though.
Elven Warriorr;11776610 said:Being high on drugs impairs judgement. If somebody is high on ecstasy, how can they have enough sense and judgement to decide not to drink too much water?
Elven Warriorr;11776610 said:Being high on drugs impairs judgement. If somebody is high on ecstasy, how can they have enough sense and judgement to decide not to drink too much water?
qftrickolasnice;11784758 said:lol.. wow.
Edit - Oh wait.. It's you.. The ignorant troll.
Folley;11731052 said:A small amount of information can be more dangerous than none... which is why we need to regulate these drugs and teach about their dangers in school.
pmoseman;11789306 said:Alcohol poisoning and people drinking water. We need someone to blame for this. It can't be as simple as that person's own fault, it has to work out to be someone else.
Elven Warriorr;11776610 said:Being high on drugs impairs judgement. If somebody is high on ecstasy, how can they have enough sense and judgement to decide not to drink too much water?
SwampFox56;11734887 said:I disagree.
PMA is probably a lot easier to make. If and when the war on drugs ends, Ecstasy pills are still going to be filled with other shitty amphetamines and cathinones like Mephedrone, Buphedrone, Methylone, PMA, 5-APB, 6-APB, etc...
Lady Codone;11736348 said:Might sound paranoid, but I always wondered if the government doesn't have a hand in these random PMA poisonings that happen every 10 years or so. They poisoned thousands of people during alcohol prohibition, so I wouldn't put it past them. Then they can say "see, drugs are bad!" while skimming over the true details in the 6 o' clock news.
(I'm referring to the U.S. government, but any government is capable of such atrocities).
Between 1974 and the mid-1990s, there appear to have been no known fatalities from PMA.[12]
Several deaths reported as MDMA-induced in Australia in the mid-1990s are now considered to have been caused by PMA, the users unaware that they were ingesting PMA and not MDMA as they had intended.[13] There have been a number of PMA-induced deaths around the world since then.[14][15]
In July 2013, seven deaths in Scotland were linked to tablets containing PMA that had been mis-sold as ecstacy and which had the Rolex crown logo on them.