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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

tramadol 6-apb

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hallio

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hello
i hope you can help me i had taken the last three days about 3 gramms tramadol.
now about 30 hours after my last tramadol use i want to take about 100mg of 6-apb.
Do you think that it should work or is the danger for a serotonyn syndrom to high.
 
That is risky for sure. For starters, the recommended safe dose of tramadol in 24 hours is 400mg, or you are risking a seizure - some people get away with it (but just because you have once doesn't mean you will again) where as others have had seizures at less than 400mg..

I am more than willing to bet that 6-apb will increase your liklihood of seizures too, so not a good mix with tramadol at all. Serotonin syndrome is a definite risk too..

Tramadol's half life is about 7 hours but considering the huge dose you have taken, a fair bit may well be still in your system - so no, I would not take any 6-apb right now, to be on the safe side..
 
ohh sorry i forgot
i had taken some etizolam for decrise the risk of a seizure.
and on the last day i just take 500mg so now do you think with etizolam and 30 hours to wait after 500mg is that risky too.
I now that it is risky at all but so it´s reduced or not.
sorry bur got one more question.
what´s about ethylphenidat could i take somthing of that 20 hours after the tramadol.
thanks :)
 
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I would also be willing to bet that ethylphenidate increases your risk of seizures.. it is a dopamine and noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor, so no real risk of serotonin syndrome, but the seizure thing would concern me despite the etizolam (I'm not sure how good an anticonvulsant etizolam is to be honest..)

Everyone is different as I said - it's really hard to say for certain with tramadol. You may well be okay but I can't say for sure and I would hate to tell you something is safe when it might not be.. 30 hours should be okay going by tramadol's half life, but the fact that ethylphenidate is a new and pretty unresearched RC (hate that term haha) makes me a little nervous.
 
thank you for yor help
i forgott that i got some carbamazepin here wich is an antiepilepticum i think, so it would help if it get dangoures? or just like the same with too much tramadol
so i decided to take the 6-apb but with the ethylphenidat i´m not sure.
edit: mine ethylphenidat are small to medium sized crystal its clear.
 
Okay the 6-APB does have a risk of serotonin syndrome with tramadol as it releases serotonin. If I was to go for either, I'd go for ethylphenidate, but both are relatively unknown and unresearched RCs.

You can't pop a carbemazepine "if it gets dangerous" - you won't have any warning you are about to have a seizure, or if you do it will already be too late..

30 hours is a decent amount of time post-tramadol. It probably would be okay. But I can't guarantee it and I especially would avoid 6-APB given that it is a serotonin releaser..
 
so then i will take the 6-apb did you ever take it. its my first time.
and you woldn´t take the ethylphenidat 20 hours after the last tramadol use ?
thank you for your help
 
No DON'T take the 6-APB, haha, there is a risk of serotonin syndrome with tramadol, wait a bit longer to be sure..

Yes I have taken it. It's pleasant.. nothing awesome. A little stimulation, a little euphoria, slight trippiness..

The ethylphenidate.. to be honest, it's all guess work as this is a new, unresearched RC. I would imagine that is enough time for there not to be an interaction but.. I can't make promises!
 
ohh sorry english not verry god ;)
so then how long should i wait befor i can take the 6-apb and can i reduze the time if i eat cashewnuts. :)
so ok then i will try the eph amd my friend the 6-apb.
i got some 2-fa here to but i think in high doses it´s a serotonin relaiser so better dont take it or what do you think?
edit:
I JUST SAW IT WAS JUST 2,5 GRAMS
 
Why take that much tramadol and try to deflect the potential of a seizure with anti convulsants? I see no benefit in continuing this course of action. Tramadol has a very low ceiling and IMO a very weak euphria. I would try something safer and stay away from the very real possibility of a grand mal seizure or an unknown reaction to the apb's and other drugs. Just my two cents. I'd save the tramadol for when you are really in need of them or trade them for something better.
 
SORRY SORRY i´m a little bit disturbing the 2,5 grams were consumed in 4 days if that makes any diffrents to you
I Think thats importamt or isn´t it?
thanks for writing to me
 
^yes that certainly is better than consuming it all at once, still over the 400mg/day recommended limit though.. even with etizolam, this really isn't a good idea - even with etizolam, it is an atypical benzo (well, thienobenzodiazepine) and I don't know how well it works as an anticonvulsant. Some aren't very good at all, it's far safer to keep your tramadol dose down..

If it has been 30 hours since your last dose, you are probably fine for interactions but I'd still steer clear of 6-APB. Ethylphenidate is probably okay but we can't promise..
 
Agreed, I am not familiar personally with etizolam however any bezos mixed with opiates are a bad idea. When you get in to tramadol you are talkign a whole different story as it interacts with totally different chemicals than your standard opiates. I am a bit worried for you. Why the rush to take the other drugs? What is your goal? Tramadol has a low effect and as we have said it is highly suseptible to seizures when taken at high doses. Better not to risk it. This is not me saying, "stop being dangerous, kid." far from it. I just can't understand why you want to accentuate your tramadol high while staving off possible serious side effects with skeptical benzos. Maybe you can message me or Effie and tell us what is going on so we can help you out in a more effective manner. I would say you are clear also, but don't go taking APB's for at least 24 hours. In fact I am not sure why you want to take those either. Help me help you...
 
hello
so can i take it today in 12 hours the 6 apb when the last tramadol use is 16 hours ago.
and the ethylphenydat i want to use to do some homework that i usueli do at the evning but now we wana try 6 apb ;)
 
As Easy As said, I would leave it 24 hours before you have the 6-APB to make sure there is no risk of serotonin syndrome... sorry!

Ethylphenidate should be okay I think after 12 hours especially if you keep the dose low, but as it is a new and relatively unresearched drug I can't say for sure as I don't know what the seizure risk is.. try to leave it as long as you can before you take it, and keep your doses low. And bear in mind I am not saying this is definitely safe, just making an educated guess.. there is no risk of serotonin syndrome at least.

I really would cut down your tramadol to a maximum of 400mg/day to stay safe, rather than taking etizolam to reduce the seizure risk (as I don't know how strong an anticonvulsant it is, plus I don't like the whole concept of taking benzos to prevent a seizure from high dose tramadol - you could easily be caught out, and as Easy As said benzos + opioids can be a dangerous combination..) and avoid taking it with these drugs (which can make seizures more likely)

Save your 6-APB for another night. It's fun, but it's definitely not awesome enough to risk serotonin syndrome!!

Hope that helped, let me know if you are still unclear :)
 
thank you all for your help
so now i think im going to take just ethylphenidat, camfetamin and 2fa and than later for the comedown etizolam.
how long do i have to wait befor i can take tramadol again.
thaks for your answers
youre really friendly to a newbie :D :D
 
hallio said:
thank you all for your help
so now i think im going to take just ethylphenidat, camfetamin and 2fa and than later for the comedown etizolam.
how long do i have to wait befor i can take tramadol again.
thaks for your answers
youre really friendly to a newbie :D :D
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hey do you think there would be any problems by using ethylphenidat and 2-fa together.?
thanks for helping
 
Why are you doing this to your self? Can you give us a purpose behind your medicating? No worries about you being new. People here aare trying to help but it seems like you have an alterior agenda. You oK? Why so hyped on tramadol?
 
I would not combine 2-FA and ethylphenidate, mostly because little is known about either so we have no idea if it is dangerous or not, but also because combining two stims can often be pretty unpleasant..
 
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