Trading one opiate for another

[blazequietly]

Ive had an account here but dont usually post because I usually am able to find answers to my questions in other threads.
Anyways my to give you some background Ive been addicted to opiates for around 6 years. Everything from Tramadol to Heroin. I find I have horrible withdrawal if I got even 1 day with out some opiates. Ive had to get completely clean twice both times were when I went to jail. Upon release I was unable to control my self from using again. I have suchbad depression and anxiety without opiates I dont know if I wouldbe able to cope.
Anyways to get to the topic Id like to discuss and get some other opinions on;.lets lake for example my last relapse. I went straight for some H, did it for about 4 or 5 days and thought id be able to stop with minimal withdrawal, well I was wrong so now Im addicted again Im a semi-functional drug addict I work and barely pay bills always borrowing from family to fund my habit or pay my bills, depends on how you wanna look at it. Anyways to get to the point, since different types of opiates suposedly cause more or less severe levels of withdrawal does it make sense if one like in my position I was shooting heroin, I also enjoy shooting Nucyntas or Oxy 20 IRs, however. I find the withdrawal from all of those to be bery acute and severe. Does.it make sense if I was to be "less out of control" to try to get a steady supply of some hydrocodone, tramadol, t3s a weaker opiate and only do tha opiate through oral administration to perhaps prepare for the inevidable crash and burn that will come when I am forced to quit again? Ive already answered my own question really butwould like others input. I once actually quit by doing hydros for a week or so at a smaller dose maybe 60 mg a day then getting some gabapentin and taking that heavy for 5 days and then I was presumably over the worst of the opiate withdrawal but due to being bored/depressed and not feeling the best quickly relapsed. (i think the gabapentin its self then had withdrawal associated with it.
So recently I lost my job and have beeb doing some side work but not nearly enough to support a opiate habbit. Anyways I went and got a couple suboxone strips and gabapentin and plans on weaning down with that, and would like to know if after taking just the subs for about a week will I just feel the slighly less uncomfortable withdrawals fromthe subs he has used to wean down on or will it be some type of hellish mixture of suboxone heroin methadone vicodin oxycodone and tramadol withdrawal mixture? Basically I guess what im asking is can you "trade down" the opiate you are using ti experience a lesser form of withdrawal or are you just going to be withdrawing from everything all at once. To rephrase one more time to maybe make more sense if someone did H for a month and then usex vicodin to help withdraw from that for like a week and then stopped cold turkey would we be having vicodin withdrawal or heroin withdrawal or both? And would either be more desireable than the other? I know Im splitting hairs but Ive been wondering this for a while and wanna see some other peoples input.

 

[T. Calderone]

In theory, replacing heroin with other opiates to wean down might work. You will still feel discomfort and withdrawals to some degree when you're finished. But if you're not truly ready to quit, you will find yourself back in the same spot relapsing. I'm only going by my own experience though. Have you considered opiate replacement therapy?

 

[blazequietly]

In theory, replacing heroin with other opiates to wean down might work. You will still feel discomfort and withdrawals to some degree when you're finished. But if you're not truly ready to quit, you will find yourself back in the same spot relapsing. I'm only going by my own experience though. Have you considered opiate replacement therapy?

Never heard of it, but if it involves admitting using I cant do it right now because Im on paper, should be getting off n july. Anyways I saw my doctor today and talked him into writing me a script of 60 50mg pills and I took 9 today and feel pretty good, not much euphoria but I feel good. I thought these might be good to get my tolerance back down to where id I am out for a day I dont want to rip my own face off. I hear tramadol withdrawal can be just as bad, but I went through a heavy dope habbit detox in jail, and let me tell you I donT think its possible for any type of withdrawal to be worse than that. Ive detoxed from klonopin cold turkey and that wasnt nearly as bad, physically at least. I also detoxed from about 3 weeks of just suboxone (after a 7 month binge) and it was a slower process but nowwhere near as bad as coming off a heavy dope habbit. The dope wd was so much diarheea and puking and halucinating for 4 or 5 days, I didnt know who I was or where I was. They put me in the psyche ward of the jail because I woke everyone up because I was screaming over a halucination of my cell flooding full of bloody water. Nothing can be worse than that im sure of it.